U.S. CLOSER TO WAR WITH RUSSIA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> JOINING US FROM INDIANA THE
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE
.
CIRCUM- AND NICE TO SEE YOU
AGAIN.
MARTHA AND I WERE JUST REMARKING
HIS ADDRESS IS MORE POWERFUL ON
REPLAY THAN IT APPEARED WHEN WE
WERE LISTENING TO IT IN REAL
TIME LIFE.
NONETHELESS, LET’S GET YOUR
REACTION TO WHAT YOU HEARD LAST
HOUR.
>> I THINK THE WORLD HAS BEEN
INSPIRED BY PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY.
WHEN I MET HIM TWO YEARS AGO WE
SPENT TIME TOGETHER IN POLAND,
WE SPOKE AFTER THAT AND I SAW AT
THAT TIME HIS STRENGTH, HIS
POISE, BUT WHAT THE WORLD IS
SEEING AS A MAN STANDING
COURAGEOUSLY IN THE GAP FOR HIS
PEOPLE, AND I THINK THE WORDS
THAT HE EXPRESSED TODAY TO THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN BE
SUMMARIZED IN SIMPLY A MESSAGE
THAT THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE ARE
SUFFERING, AND WE NEED TO DO
MORE.
I BELIEVE WE WILL DO MORE.
I BELIEVE IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE
HEED HIS CALL FOR ADDITIONAL
SANCTIONS, THAT WE ECONOMICALLY
ISOLATE WHO DIDN’T.
THERE IS ONE PERSON TO BLAME FOR
THIS INVASION AND IT IS VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
HOOTON MUST PAY FOR THE VIOLENCE
THAT HE IS VISITING UPON THE
PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.
I THINK IT’S TIME WE TRANSFERRED
THE MIGS THAT WE GAVE THEM THE
ANTIAIRCRAFT SYSTEMS.
AND I BELIEVE BILL AND MARTHA, I
BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME FOR A
21ST CENTURY BERLIN AIRLIFT.
WHEN I WAS ON THE BORDER OF
UKRAINE JUST LAST WEEK, I HEARD
OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE
PRACTICAL NEEDS THAT PEOPLE ARE
FACING FOOD, WATER, MEDICINE,
AND I THINK IT’S TIME FOR THE
FREE WORLD TO STEP UP AND WORK
TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE
OF UKRAINE HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL
TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND ALSO TO
TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND
THEIR FAMILIES ADMITS THIS
VIOLENCE.
THEY SHOWN INCREDIBLE COURAGE.
USE OUR PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY
DEMONSTRATE THAT COURAGE IN
WORDS TODAY AS WELL.
I THINK THE TIME HAS COME FOR US
TO DO TO GIVE THEM SUPPORT THAT
THEY NEED IN THIS HOUR OF NEED.
>> GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US
THIS MORNING.
WITH REGARD TO THIS FEAR OF
SETTING OFF WORLD WAR III, THIS
IS OBVIOUSLY VERY PROMINENT IN
THE MINDS OF PRESIDENT BIDEN AS
HE IS THE LEADER OF THE FREE
WORLD AT THIS POINT.
HOW WOULD YOU NAVIGATE THAT?
HOW WOULD YOU PUT IN PLACE
ALLOWING THE MIGS FOR POLAND FOR
EXAMPLE, CREATING AS YOU SAY
WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA A
BERLIN AIRLIFT BECAUSE WE CAN’T
STAND WHAT WE’RE SEEING
HAPPENING IN THESE PLACES
COMPLETELY CUT OFF IN 2022.
BUT HOW DO YOU SEE THAT IN TERMS
OF NAVIGATING IT AND NOT
TRIPPING THAT WORLD WAR III WIRE
?
TAKING FIRST I WOULD DO IT THE
WAY WE DID IT IN THE TRUNK PENCE
ADMINISTRATION WHICH WAS WE
ARMED UKRAINE.
WE GAVE THEM THE ABILITY, LETHAL
WEAPONS TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES.
YOUR MEMBER FOR EIGHT YEARS
UNDER THE BIDEN AND OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION THEY BASICALLY
SENT THEM BLANKETS AND BOXED
MEALS AND WHEN THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION TOOK OVER THEY
ONCE AGAIN STOPPED PROVIDING
LETHAL SUPPORT I’M GLAD THAT
THEY REINITIATED THAT, BUT WE’VE
GOT TO DOUBLE DOWN.
WHAT PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY IS WHAT
THEY WERE FIGHTERS IN UKRAINE
ARE DEMONSTRATING IS GIVEN THE
TOOLS, THEY ARE ABLE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AND TAKE THE FIGHT TO
RUSSIA.
WE ARE THREE WEEKS INTO THIS
THING AND I FRANKLY BELIEVE THAT
VLADIMIR PUTIN THOUGHT THIS WAS
GOING TO GO LIKE AFGHANISTAN
WHEN WITH, GETTING ON A PLANE
AND FLYING AWAY, THE MILITARY
COLLAPSING, THE GOVERNMENT
COLLAPSING, BUT BECAUSE OF THE
LEADERSHIP OF ZELENSKYY, THERE IS A DIFFERENT STORY THREE WEEKS
IS A DIFFERENT STORY THREE WEEKS
LATER.
AS YOU HEARD THEM SAY A LITTLE
BIT AGO YOU PROVIDE THEM WITH
ANTIAIRCRAFT SYSTEMS SO THEY CAN
SHOOT DOWN THOSE PLANES, YOU
GIVE THEM THE MIGS THAT GETS
THEM FARTHER INTO THE FIGHT, BUT
THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE SIMPLY
NEEDED THE WHEREWITHAL TO BE
ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU, I THINK
THAT THIS IDEA OF A 21ST CENTURY
BERLIN AIRLIFT AS AN IDEA WHOSE
TIME HAS COME.
I WAS AT THE BORDER JUST INSIDE
KAREN AND I WERE SAMARITANS
FIRST CHRISTIAN RELIEF
ORGANIZATION.
WE SPOKE TO THE CHILDREN AND
WOMEN FLOODING ACROSS THE BORDER
NOW SOME 3 MILLION AND THE
REALITY, THE HEARTBREAK OF WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE TODAY, I
IS HAPPENING THERE TODAY, I THINK DEMANDS THAT WE DO MORE.
THINK DEMANDS THAT WE DO MORE.
WITH IN UKRAINE TO FURTHER
ISOLATE PUTIN, I WAS STRUCK BY
HIS CALL THAT EVERY POLITICIAN
IN RUSSIA OUGHT TO FACE
INDIVIDUAL SANCTIONS.
WE ARE THE LARGEST MOST POWERFUL
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION WAS LOW ON THE
DRAW WITH SANCTIONS.
THEY WERE SLOW TO SANCTION OIL.
THEY HAVE STEP THAT UP, BUT I
THINK WE NEED TO BRING THE
HAMMER DOWN.
HOOTON MUST STOP OR PUTIN MUST
PAY.
I CAN TELL YOU, HAVING STOOD TOE
TO TOE WITH HIM AND LOOKED HIM
RIGHT IN THE EYE, VLADIMIR PUTIN
ONLY UNDERSTAND STRENGTH.
WE NEED TO MEET THIS MOMENT WITH
AMERICAN STRENGTH ALL
ACROSS-THE-BOARD.
>> EVES HAD A LOT THERE.
WE’LL HEAR FROM A PRESIDENT NEXT
HOUR AND APPARENTLY THERE IS
MORE AID THAT HE WILL ANNOUNCE
FURTHER THERE ARE SOME ANTITANK
DRONES WILL ENTER THEIR IN
UKRAINE.
HOWEVER COME AT YOU ADDRESS THE
AIRLIFT, YOU ADDRESS THE MIGS,
WHAT ABOUT THE NO-FLY ZONE?
TO YOU DOES THAT SOME POSSIBLE?
>> I THINK WHAT THE LEADER SAID
A MOMENT AGO WAS STRIKING.
HE SAID IN ALL OF HIS
CONVERSATIONS HE’S NEVER ASKED
FOR MILITARY FORCES FROM THE
UNITED STATES HE SIMPLY ASKED
FOR THE ABILITY TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES AND THAT’S WHERE I
THINK THE ANTIAIRCRAFT MISSILE
SYSTEMS TRANSFERRING THE MAKES,
GIVING THEM RESOURCES, THE
PROBLEM WITH THE UNITED STATES
PARTICIPATING IN A NO-FLY ZONE
PUTTING U.S. FORCES IN DIRECT
WITH RUSSIAN FORCES.
I THINK THE MORE PRUDENT COURSE
THE WISER COURSE HERE IN THE
LONG TERM IS WE COUNT THE COST
OF ALL OF OUR INVOLVEMENT HERE
IS TO SIMPLY GIVE THE BRAVE ANY
COURAGEOUS PEOPLE OF UKRAINE THE
TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND
THEMSELVES.
THEY DEMONSTRATED INCREDIBLE
COURAGE IN THE LAST THREE WEEKS
AND I BELIEVE WITH GIVEN THE
RIGHT TOOLS, THEY COULD TURN
BACK THIS RUSSIAN INVASION.
I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT WHAT I
ALSO HEARD ON THE BORDER AND I
HEARD THIS FROM RELIEF WORKERS
WAS THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF
FOOD AND MEDICINE AND WATER
BEING BROUGHT IN.
THAT’S WHY I AM PROPOSING A 21ST
CENTURY BERLIN AIRLIFT.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE
THAT ARE STAYING HAVE THE BASIC
SUSTENANCE OF LIFE TO BE ABLE TO
HOLD OUT AGAINST THIS RUSSIAN
INVASION.
YOU GIVE THESE COURAGEOUS
UKRAINIAN PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO
DEFEND THEMSELVES YOU GIVE THEM
THE WHEREWITHAL TO STAND STRONG,
AND I REALLY BELIEVE WITH ALL MY
HEART, AS YOU SAW THE
DETERMINATION IN PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY’S EYES AND IN HIS
VOICE, THAT THEY CAN TURN BACK
THIS RUSSIAN INVASION AND SECURE
OF FREEDOM FOR THEIR PEOPLE FOR
GENERATIONS TO COME.
>> DO YOU THINK THAT PRESIDENT
BIDEN HAS GIVEN VLADIMIR PUTIN
AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL THE
NARRATIVE HERE BECAUSE HE HAD
SAID IF YOU SEND IN THE POLISH
PLANES AND THEY HAVE UKRAINE
PILOTS, WE WILL SEE THAT AS AN
ACT OF WAR.
HOW WOULD YOU TURN AROUND THE
DYNAMIC WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP
RIGHT NOW IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT?
>> LET ME TELL YOU THAT I HOLD
THE VIEW THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER
SAY WHAT YOU’LL NEVER DO RIGHT
AND FROM VERY EARLY ON, MARTHA,
YOU’LL RECALL PRESIDENT BIDEN
MADE IT CLEAR THAT WE WOULD
NEVER TAKE ANY ACTION IN THIS
THEATER THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE
ECONOMIC.
LOOK, I THINK YOU HAVE TO KEEP
BOWLING DICTATORS LIKE VLADIMIR
PUTIN GUESSING.
THE FACT IS THAT WEAKNESS
AROUSES EVIL, AND LOOKED,
VLADIMIR PUTIN IS TO BLAME FOR
THE VIOLENCE THAT IS TAKING
PLACE AND THE RUSSIAN INVASION
TODAY.
NO ONE ELSE IS TO BLAME, BUT I
HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT
THE DISASTROUS WITHDRAW FROM
AFGHANISTAN, THE CAPITULATION TO
PRUDENT WEATHERBY ON NORDSTROM
TOO EARLY IN THIS ADMINISTRATION
, REENTERING THE
INTERMEDIATE NUCLEAR TREATY THAT
WE HAD GOTTEN OUT OF BECAUSE
RUSSIA WAS BREAKING IT.
ALL OF THESE ACTIONS I THINK
UNQUESTIONABLY EMBOLDEN VLADIMIR
PUTIN.
THAT’S WHAT I SAID PRUDENT ONLY UNDERSTAND STRENGTH AND WE NEED
UNDERSTAND STRENGTH AND WE NEED
TO MEET THIS MOMENT.
BY BRINGING AMERICAN STRENGTH OF
THE EQUATION.
>> DO YOU THINK THE
COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HAS BEEN SLOW
?
YOU KNOW HONESTLY, I SET IT ON
YOUR AIR THREE WEEKS AGO THAT WE
NEEDED TO LEAN ALL THE WAY IN
AND SANCTION EVERY FINANCIAL
INSTITUTION IN RUSSIA WE NEEDED
TO SANCTION RUSSIAN OIL WHICH IS
THE LIFEBLOOD OF THEIR ECONOMY.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS LOW
ON THE UPTAKE ON THOSE THINGS,
BUT LOOK THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF
TIME AFTER THIS IS ALL OVER TO
LOOK BACK IN TO DEBATE AND TAKE
LESSONS LEARNED.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO
COME TOGETHER AS A COUNTRY.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ROLE
THAT AMERICA SHOULD PLAY.
WE NEED TO ISOLATE RUSSIA
ECONOMICALLY EVERY SINGLE DAY,
TIGHTENING THE ECONOMIC NEWS ON
PUTIN’S REGIME.
WE NEED TO BE PROVIDING THE
UKRAINIAN MILITARY WITH THE
ABILITY TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
GET THOSE MIGS OUT OF POLAND AND
GET THEM TO UKRAINE.
AND GET THOSE 21ST CENTURY
BERLIN AIRLIFT, START BRINGING
HUNDREDS OF TONS OF BASIC
SUPPLIES TO THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE
.
THE COURAGE, THE RESILIENCE, THE
PEOPLE OF UKRAINE ARE SHOWING IT
EVERY DAY. AT LEAST HE HAD WITH THEM IN
AT LEAST HE HAD WITH THEM IN
THIS FIGHT.