>>> THE POINT IS EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHETHER IT’S OBSTRUCTION,
OBSTRUCTION, OBSTRUCTION OF
HAVING PEOPLE COME TO THE TABLE
WITH FACTS, IGNORING THE
SUBPOENA, THE PRESIDENT IS
MAKING A CASE -- HE’S BECOMING
SELF-IMPEACHABLE IN TERMS OF
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HE IS
DOING.
DOING. >> WELCOME BACK TO "MORNING
JOE."
JOE." IT IS THURSDAY, MAY 9th.
WE HAVE REPORTER FOR THE
ASSOCIATED PRESS JONATHAN
LEMIRE, CLAIRE McCASKILL, FORMER
WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT
OBAMA, BOB BOWER.
BOY, NANCY PELOSI.
>> NANCY PELOSI.
I’VE BEEN FRIENDS WITH NANCY FOR
A VERY LONG TIME.
WE WERE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF
THE AISLE, I HAVE TO SAY,
CLAIRE, I KNEW SHE WAS GOOD AT
WHAT SHE DID BUT THIS ISN’T
HYPERBOLE.
HYPERBOLE. I DON’T THINK I CAN RECALL A
LEAD ARER
LEAD ARER LEADER ON CAPITOL HILL BEING
MORE PITCH PERFECT, JUGGLING
MORE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME
THAN NANCY PELOSI, BUT SHE HAS
STRUCK THE PERFECT TONE FROM THE
START.
START. >> I THINK SHE IS -- YOU KNOW,
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHEN
EXPERIENCE DOES REALLY MATTER.
YOU KNOW, IN POLITICS EXPERIENCE
IS A BAD THING.
YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE NEVER
DONE IT BEFORE.
YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO BE SOME
BUSINESS GUY WHO JUST WANDERED
IN AND SAYS, WELL, I CAN SAVE
AMERICA.
AMERICA. BUT NANCY HAS BEEN THERE.
SHE UNDERSTANDS.
SHE UNDERSTANDS. WHAT’S REALLY UNIMAGINABLE IS
HOW SHE’S MANAGED TO KEEP THE
TROOPS FROM STRAYING.
ONCE YOU HAVE THAT POWER, YOU
WANT TO GO.
SHE’S MANAGED TO KEEP ALL OF HER
MEN AND WOMEN TO THE AS A TEAM.
THAT’S AN AMAZING
ACCOMPLISHMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN
WE HAVE THAT LEFT FRICTION IN
OUR PARTY RIGHT NOW.
>> TO YOU THIS HAS TO SEEM
ESPECIALLY EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE
NANCY IS SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE
BECAUSE OF THE MODERATES THAT
WON IN VIRGINIA, BECAUSE OF THE
MODERATES THAT WON IN
CALIFORNIA, BECAUSE OF THE
MODERATES THAT WON IN GEORGIA,
BECAUSE OF THE MODERATES THAT
WON IN DISTRICTS WHERE THEY
DON’T USUALLY WIN.
AND WE -- I HEAR LIBERALS
COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME ABOUT
THE SUPREME COURT.
THE SUPREME COURT IS -- AND
NANCY IS CHARTING A MODERATE
COURSE TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE
LIKE YOU RUNNING FOR OFFICE SO
THE DEMOCRATS CAN GET THE
MAJORITY AGAIN.
MAJORITY AGAIN. BUT UNTIL DEMOCRATS FIGURE OUT
HOW TO DO THIS ON THE SENATE
SIDE, REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO
KEEP PUTTING CONSERVATIVES ON
THE SUPREME COURT FOR AS LONG AS
REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE SENATE.
DOESN’T MATTER WHO THE
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IS.
WE SAW THAT WITH MERRICK
GARLAND.
GARLAND. >> I THINK YOU’RE RIGHT.
WE GOT TO RECRUIT GOOD
CANDIDATES IN THE STATES WE CAN
WIN.
WIN. THERE’S A BUNCH OF STATES WE CAN
WIN.
WIN. I DO THINK THE DEMOCRATS IN THE
SENATE ARE TRYING.
IF YOU NOTICE THIS WEEK, WHAT
MOST OF THE DEMOCRATIC SENATORS
ARE TALKING ABOUT IS HEALTH CARE
FOR WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY.
WE ARE TAKING A DRAMATIC,
RADICAL TURN TO THE RIGHT IN
TERMS OF HEALTH CARE FOR WOMEN.
JUST CONTRACEPTION IS ACTUALLY
IN PLAY UNDER THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. SO I THINK THE SENATE IS TRYING.
I DO THINK WHAT NANCY HAS IN THE
BACK OF HER MIND AND WHAT CHUCK
SCHUMER HAS IN THE BACK OF HIS
MIND IS THE WAY WE GET BACK TO
THE MAJORITY IS GETTING THOSE
OBAMA VOTERS WE LOST TO DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. >> I DON’T WANT TO GET YOU IN
TROUBLE.
TROUBLE. >> YOU PROBABLY WILL.
UP KNOW, I’VE
YOU KNOW, I’VE NEVER BEEN IN
TROUBLE BEFORE SO WHY DON’T WE
TRY?
TRY? >> THERE’S A REASON WHEN DONALD
TRUMP GOES TO THE RALLY HE TICKS
OFF THIS, THAT, THE OTHER.
PART OF THAT IS LATE-TERM
ABORTION AND THAT MATTERS TO A
LOT OF PEOPLE ACROSS AMERICAN.
IT LIKE ASSAULT RIFLE, LIKE
EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS.
ON LATE-TERM ABORTION, IT THE
SAME THING.
SAME THING. IN STATES LIKE MISSOURI, IN
STATES LIKE MONTANA, IN OTHER
STATES AND MIDDLE AMERICA WHERE
DEMOCRATS NEED TO WIN IF THEY
WANT TO CONTROL THE SUPREME
COURT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES
IT’S GOT TO BE OKAY TO HAVE A
DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE THAT BELIEVES
THAT WHEN A BABY IS VIABLE, WHEN
AN UNBORN CHILD IS VIABLE, LIKE
22, 23 WEEKS, IT’S OKAY FOR
STATES TO PUT IN LIMITATIONS.
I’M NOT PREACHING ANYTHING HERE.
I’M JUST TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL
REALITIES.
REALITIES. THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT
DEMOCRATS HAVE TO GIVE SOME ROOM
ON LIKE ABORTION AND NOT TAKE AN
ABSOLUTIST POSITION IF THEY EF
WANT
WANT -- EVER WANT TO WIN BACK THE
SENATE.
SENATE. >> MOST AMERICANS DON’T HAVE AN
ABSOLUTIST POSITION ON ABORTION.
FIRST OF ALL, DONALD TRUMP IS
LYING WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT
LATE-TERM ABORTION IN HIS
RALLIES.
RALLIES. NOBODY IS MURDERING LIVE-BORN
BABIES.
BABIES. >> BUT LET’S NOT GET INTO A
SEMANTICS ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE
WHO WANT, YOU KNOW,
MILITARY-STYLE WEAPONS OUT THERE
GET ON GUNS.
ON ABORTION THERE HAVE BEEN
DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE STAKEN OUT A
POSITION THAT PRECLUDES PEOPLE
FROM GETTING ELECTED IN MISSOURI
AND OTHER STATE WHERE DEMOCRATS
HAVE TO WIN.
>> I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE TO
PIVOT AND GO TO WHERE THERE IS
MOST AGREEMENT, LIKE BACKGROUND
CHECKS.
CHECKS. YOU NOPE WHEREKNOW WHERE THERE I
AGREEMENT?
AGREEMENT? ACCESSIBLE TO CONTRACEPTION.
THERE ARE GOING TO BE MORE
UNWANTED PREGNANCIES IF THEY
DON’T HAVE CONTRACEPTION.
DEFUNDING ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
THE GO-TO ORGANIZATIONS FOR
CONTRACEPTION ARE GOING TO
CREATE MORE ABORTIONS.
>> I UNDERSTAND.
>> THE OTHER THING IS WHAT
GEORGIA JUST DID IS THEY’RE
SAYING A WOMAN SHOULD GO TO
PRISON AND A DOCTOR SHOULD GO TO
PRISON IF THERE’S A HEARTBEAT.
THAT’S SIX WEEKS.
WOMEN MANY TIMES DON’T EVEN KNOW
THEY’RE PREGNANT AT SIX WEEKS.
>> I’M SAYING DEMOCRATS HAVE TO
ALLOW SOMEBODY TO SAY I SUPPORT
THE RIGHT FOR ABORTION BUT AT 20
WEEKS, 21 WEEKS WHEN THE BABY
BECOMES VIABLE, I’M SORRY, YOU
KNOW WHAT, I THINK AT THAT POINT
A STATE CAN MAKE ITS OPENWN CHOI
WITHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
STEPPING IN.
STEPPING IN. I’M SAYING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
HAS TO BE OKAY WITH THAT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE DEMOCRATIC
PARTY NEEDS TO WELCOME PEOPLE
THAT HAVE ALL VIEWS.
THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE
SHOULD NOT BE DISQUALIFYING
PEOPLE AS DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY
ARE BIG GUN ADVOCATES OR BECAUSE
THEY ARE VERY STRONG -- THAT’S
THE OTHER THING WE GOT TO
REMEMBER.
REMEMBER. LET’S MAKE SURE WE DON’T START
EF LIM
EF LIM ELIMINATING PEOPLE BECAUSE WE
AREN’T IN SINGE.
>> IF
>> IF -- SYNC.
-- SYNC. >> I THINK YOU’RE RIGHT, THAT’S
AN EXTREME POSITION AND WE GO TO
THE OTHER SIDE IN GEORGIA AND
THAT’S AN EXTREME POSITION.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR
PRO-LIFE DEMOCRATS.
PRO-LIFE DEMOCRATS. >> LET’S DO THE MIDDLE.
>> YOU’VE SEEN IN ALABAMA,
THEY’RE STAKING OUT EXTREME
POSITIONS.
POSITIONS. GOOD LUCK BEING A REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE EVER WINNING IN
GEORGIA, A SUBURBAN WOMAN.
>> SO BEFORE WE GET TO BOB,
CLAIRE HAS CONFIRMED THAT
SUBPOENAING IS A WORD.
I’M NOT GOOD AT IT SO --
>> YEAH, WE ARE SUBPOENAING
BUSINESS RECORDS --
>> IT DOESN’T SOUND RIGHT.