>> In July, Tucker Carlson did this weird paranoid segment about two New York Times
journalists. Who were working on a story that he claimed would lead to him getting doxxed,
right? This is like a common accusation by people in positions of power, when they know
something negative is about to be published about them.
Or when something's about to be published about them, and they're just paranoid freaks
like Tucker Carlson is. And so, he was never doxxed by New York Times reporters ever. But
in doing that segment, what he essentially did was draw all of this negative attention
toward New York Times journalists.
Who were then the target of people who were threatening them in their own homes or at
least trying to break into their homes. One of those journalists is Tristen Spinski and
let me give you the details of what happened. So Carlson said on Fox News, so how would
Murray Carpenter that was one of the reporters.
And his photographer Tristan Spinski feel if we told you where they live, if we put
pictures of their homes on air? Now again, The New York Times, these reporters they never
did anything like that. But this is what Tucker Carlson said in the segment, and his fans
did take this seriously.
And now we have some transcripts of the 911 call that's Spinski and his family members
did when they were targeted by Tucker Carlson's fans. So this was reported by Eric Whipple
in the Washington Post and he writes that the 911 transcript adds contour to the story.
As it depicts the victims of Carlson's dangerous speculation trying to make sense of a sudden
spurt of hostility at their doorstep on an otherwise quiet summer night.
The call arrived at the Lincoln County facility at 9:57 PM, just about an hour after Carlson's
segment. Now, Spinski, his wife, and his brother-in-law were in his home when these Carlson fan showed
up. And it's not like they were just protesting outside of his house. They were trying to
get into his house based on what we know through the 911 transcript.
So the transcript read that, Tristan Spinski said the following, there's definitely people
on our property. We can feel our house when someone is trying to get into it downstairs.
It was significant, they went upstairs and lock the door for safety and called 911. As
for Spinski himself, he has stepped back from his work since his unexpected mention on Tucker
Carlson Tonight.
He surely won't be participating in any project on Carlson, he said quote, I'm apolitical
in my work. And this has politicized my role in some ways, I can't photog a story that
I'm part of, if that makes sense. So, he believes there's a conflict of interest there but I
really think at the heart of his decision to no longer do this story.
Or whatever he was working on, is Tucker Carlson's threats really.
>> Okay, so here comes nuance and clarity, so first of all, I don't think Tucker Carlson
is making it up in terms of New York Times thinking about a story. Likely they reached
out to him for a comment before they were going to run a story.
And that's how he knows about that or he knows somebody, the paper etc. Now, do we know what
the story was about? No. Do we think that they were gonna dox him? No, preposterous,
The New York Times is not going to dox him. Could it be a story about who knows make it
up, like taxes about his house so they were gonna tangentially mention his house.
Or maybe the story had something to do with his house, I don't know. But that doesn't
mean they're gonna dox you, that's not what The New York Times does. That's what fascist
like Tucker Carlson does, so they they purposely target you to try to intimidate you. And what
makes me absolutely sick to my stomach is that it worked, he got a bunch of goons and
it's called stochastic terrorism.
What it is, is I say something and if someone happens to act on it, and that guy happens
to get hurt, well, I didn't direct Bob to do it. Now, but if you're Tucker Carlson you
know you have crazed right winger fans who can't wait to do violence on your behalf.
All you have to do is unleash them, so you give the guys names, they're gonna find their
houses. It's super easy to find houses, and they're gonna go there and they're gonna literally
rattle their cage. And then Spinski, I empathize with him because he's scared for his life
but no, no backing out of the story is how fascist win.
I don't know if The New York Times is what kind of story they were planning, they haven't
run anything yet. If they were planning on running this story and they got intimidated
by Tucker Carlson. They're the world's worst cowards, I'm talking about the editors, run
the goddamn story, whatever it was.
Now, I wanna be super clear whether you're right wing or left wing, do not go to people's
houses. And this is not just the right wing, the right wing is more prone to violence.
But the left wing does sometimes go to people's houses, I'm done with it. Look guys, somebody's
gonna get really hurt, it's not a good idea, it's a terrible idea, stop going to people's
houses.
>> Yeah, I just wanna go back to, what you mentioned about Spinski and how he shouldn't
give up on this story. Based on what Tucker Carlson is doing, it's hard, I know from personal
experience, right? I had something very similar happened, I believe it was in 2008. Based
on a nonsense story that we covered that upset, this crazy right wing mob, and it's not just
that you fear for your life, right?
It's that your family is angry at you because they feel that you're putting their lives
in jeopardy. And honestly, that's the worst part, so I'm just giving that perspective
as well. Because Spinski might be like me where it's like, no, I'm defiant, I'm gonna
keep going, I'm gonna keep doing my thing.
But I remember when I was going through it, the worst part about it was. One of my parents
turned to me and looked at me and said, you just don't know how to shut your mouth. But
I don't blame them because they were scared, it was the middle of the night.
And that made me feel like the worst person on the planet, so I just want to give that
perspective as well. >> Yeah, I know, look I'm not blaming Spinski,
and this is how fascists work. They try to turn your family against you by threatening
them, but if we get intimidated by them, then we're never gonna get out of this mess that
we're in.
And this is how countries lose themselves, it's really scary stuff, guys. If you've never
experienced it, you have no idea, what taking these guys on is like. And so, but we've got
to be strong, we just have especially, I'm not asking for it. But look, there's two different
things here, one is The New York Times.
If I was in The New York times again, I don't know any of it, they might print it tomorrow,
okay? But if someone's threatened my reporters that way, about great, game on. Then I'm not
gonna do just that story, I'm gonna do ten stories on you. I'm gonna dig up everything
there is in the world on you, Tucker Carlson, and I'm gonna shove it down your throat.
We're not gonna dox you, were not gonna send people over, we are not gonna bring in thugs,
we're not right wingers. But we're gonna look at facts and if you've done nothing wrong
great, then you've done nothing wrong. But to be intimidated by fascist is unacceptable.
Guys this is kind of like the story about how Donald Trump says we might redo the election.
If you haven't experienced it, you're not getting how severe it is, they do this to
people all the time. And the right wing believes in violence and so it's super scary stuff
and we're in the middle of it. And honestly most of the time, it doesn't affect the establishment
at all.
So, they're oblivious to it, couldn't care less and the band plays on, I'm not joking
man. There's two and a half months left and if Trump gets reelected it's gonna be a super
ugly world in this country. And that actually scares me, the fact that Biden at this point
is basically in hiding scares me.
We've got to win this election, we have got to, got to, got to win this election, so let's
hope for
the best.