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>>> WELCOME BACK EVERYONE. FROM UNPREDICTABLE TODDLERS TO
CHEATING SCANDALS, THERE'S A LOT
TO TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO
PARENTING CHOICES MAKING
HEADLINES THIS WEEK.
CARA, THE MOM COACH SUSAN MORLEY
SHE ARERI OWENS AND MYSELF ALL
RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT IT IN REAL
TALK.
TALK.
TALK. >>
TALK. >> I WANT TO DO LIKE A RAPID
FIRE.
FIRE.
FIRE. >>
FIRE. >> FIRST HEADLINE ARE YOU READY
FOR THIS.
FOR THIS.
FOR THIS. IT STEMS RIGHT HERE IN GEORGIA.
I'M SURPRISED IT'S NOT FLORIDA.
A PREGNANT MOM COULD FACE JAIL
TIME OVER A POT TRAINING MISHAP.
HER SON NEEDED TO USE THE
RESTROOM.
RESTROOM.
RESTROOM. SHE DECIDED TO PULL INTO A GAS
STATION BUT QUICKLY REALIZED HER
SON WASN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO
MAKE IT TO THE TOILET INSIDE OF
COURSE.
COURSE.
COURSE. SHE WASN'T ABLE TO PICK HIM UP
BECAUSE SHE IS JUST WEEKS BEFORE
GIVING BIRTH AND WAS ORDERED BY
THE DOCTOR NOT TO LIFT ANYTHING
SO RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS SHE
COVERED HER TODDLER AND LET HIM
PEE OUTSIDE THAT'S WHEN AN
OFFICER APPROACHED AND GAVE HER
A TICKET FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT WAS
HE THINKING AND WHAT WOULD YOU
HAVE DONE IN THIS SITUATION?
SUSAN WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME
EXPERIENCE FROM THIS.
PREGNANT, RECENTLY.
PREGNANT, RECENTLY. I STAYED IN THE SEAT WELL I'LL
JUST SAY IT WAS A VERY WET
FLIGHT TO SAN FRANCISCO.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> SO I MEAN YOU HAVE NO OPTIONS
SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES. YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT YOU'VE GOT
TO DO.
TO DO.
TO DO. >>
TO DO. >> SHE DIDN'T LET YOU GET UP AND
GO TO THE BATHROOM.
>> IT WAS SAFETY ISSUES SO I
RESPECT THE FLIGHT ATTENDANT BUT
IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE.
>> YOU POOR THING.
>> I'VE BEEN THERE.
>> WE'VE ALL HAD THOSE AND I HAD
ONE IN THE CHICK-FIL-A
DRIVE-THRU AND OUR KIDS ARE TWO
YEARS APART WE JUST REALIZED
THAT AND I WAS EXTREMELY
PREGNANT WITH MY SON MY DAUGHTER
WAS POTTY TRAINING.
LONGEST LINE EVER AND SHE HAD TO
GO AND I HAVE A LITTLE TO GO
POTTY IN THE BACK OF THE TRUNK
LIKE MOST OF US DO BECAUSE OF
GIRLS.
GIRLS.
GIRLS. IT'S VERY HARD WITH GIRLS IT'S
SO MUCH DIFFERENT.
I HAD TO PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE DRIVE-THRU LANE BECAUSE
THERE WAS NOWHERE FOR TO GO AND
THEY WERE SO SWEET AND I JUST
HAD TO TAKE HER OUT AND THEY
WERE SO SWEET .
NO ONE CARED.
>> WELL YOU HAD A SITUATION AND
JUST SICK.
JUST SICK. I MEAN, WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING AND
YOU'RE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY
LIKE THAT YOU'VE JUST GOT TO DO
WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO.
>> I HAD WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING
TO IS I HAD I THINK IT WAS JAMES
OR ISAAC ONE OF THEM THREW UP IN
THE BACKSEAT AND MY HUSBAND TOOK
THEM INTO THE REST STOP WHERE
WE'RE AT AND I TURNED AROUND MY
HUSBAND IS JUST SITTING THERE
WALKING OUT WITH A NAKED CHILD.
HE HAD VOMIT ALL OVER HIM SO I
JUST THREW HIS CLOETSZS OUT.
I WAS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET A
TICKET NOT MY HUSBAND JUST THE
BABY.
BABY.
BABY. >>
BABY. >> HE WAS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
STRIPPING DOWN TOO.
>> I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.
THIS POOR WOMAN WAS PROBABLY
MORTIFIED RIGHT THAT SHE HAD TO
EVEN MAKE THAT SPLIT DECISION
AND HER KID HAD TO GO AND THEN
AN OFFICER COMES UP AND GIVES
HER A TICKET.
LIKE I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW
EMBARRASSED YOU WOULD BE.
>> AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY UPSET.
WE ASKED YOU TO WEIGH IN AND
CHRISSIE SAYS SHAEMG ON THAT
POLICE OFFICER FOR PUTTING A
PREGNANT MOTHER AND SMALL CHILD
THROUGH THIS.
THROUGH THIS. SHE SHOULD BE PREPARING FOR A
CHILD'S BIRTH NOT WORRIED ABOUT
JAIL TIME.
JAIL TIME. I WOULD OF DONE THE EXACT SAME
THING.
THING.
THING. TJ
THING. TJ SAYS OF ALL THE HATE CRIMES
AND SHOOTINGS OUT THERE AND THIS
IS WHAT THE OFFICER WANTS TO
NAIL DOWN.
NAIL DOWN. RIDICULOUS.
RIDICULOUS. AND THEN THE FACT THAT SHE COULD
BE FACING 60 DAYS JAIL TIME
THOUSANDS IN FINES.
HOPEFULLY NOW THAT THIS
PARTICULAR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
GETTING A LOT OF HEAT THIS WILL
NOT BE HAPPENING.
BUT JUST THE FACT THAT SHE EVEN
HAS TO GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE IS
-- WHAT WAS THAT HAYLEY GOOD
QUESTION IF IT WAS A WOMAN
POLICE OFFICER WOULD SHE HAVE
HAD MORE EMPATHY.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I HOPE SO.
>> I'VE GOTTEN THREE TICKETS IN
THE PAST TWO WEEKS SO I KNOW.
>> WHAT IS GOING ON?
>> I WAS LIKE SOMEBODY HAS A
CRUSH ON YOU BECAUSE IT'S THE
SAME OFFICER.
SAME OFFICER. >> WELL.
>> WELL.
>> WELL. >> WELL HE CAN SHOW ME IN OTHER
WAYS.
WAYS.
WAYS. I
WAYS. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP GETTING
TICKS.
TICKS.
TICKS. >>
TICKS. >> BUY ME A COFFEE.
>> LIKE IF SHE'S ALSO GETTING
ARED TO HAVE THIS BABY AND SHE
HAS A TODDLER IT'S EXPENSIVE AND
SHE GET ACE TICKET AND PROBABLY
HAS TO HAVE A LAWYER AND ALL
THESE THINGS.
THESE THINGS. >> TOO MUCH EXPRESS.
>> I KNOW.
>> IT'S TRUE.
>>.
>>.
>>. >>
>>. >> I'M LIKE YOU WON'T GET A
TICKET FOR THAT.
JUST SHOW THEM YOUR LICENSE.
>>> ALL RIGHT.
BY THE WAY GOOD LUCK TO THAT MOM
WHO GOT ALL OF OUR SUPPORT.
SECOND LINE IS BASED ON A
PRINCIPAL WHO'S RANT OVER THE
COLLEGE CHEATING SCANDAL.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> EVERYBODY'S JUST SO SURPRISED
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. YOU KNOW WHO'S NOT SURPRISED
EVERY EDUCATOR IN THE WHOLE
WORLD.
WORLD.
WORLD. YOU KNOW WHY BECAUSE THIS KIND
OF THING HAPPENS EVERY DAY AT
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS.
SCHOOLS. YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS A PARENT
NOT AGREEING WITH THE POLICY OR
RULE SOMETIMES EVEN A LAW SO
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DO
WHATEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY
THINK THEY KNOW WHAT'S BEST WITH
THEIR CHILD YOU KNOW THEY DON'T
ELSE AGREES WITH POLICIES.
>> EVERYBODY.
>> EVERYBODY. HE GOES THROUGH EXAMPLES OF
CHEATING PARENTS WHO SIGN THEIR
CHILDREN'S READING LOG WHEN THE
CHILDREN MAYBE DIDN'T READ AS
MUCH AS THEY SAID.
TO WHERE THEIR CHILDREN LIVE.
SO THEY CAN GO TO A BETTER
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL.
SCHOOL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS.
DO YOU THINK IT'S RIGHT FIRST OF
ALL THOSE EXAMPLES SHOULD THEY
BE COMPARED TO PARENTS, YOU KNOW
BRIBING PEOPLE, PAYING MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS LIKE AUNT BECKY TO
GET THEIR CHILDREN INTO SOME TOP
COLLEGES.
COLLEGES.
COLLEGES. DO YOU THINK IT'S APPLES AND
ORANGES.
ORANGES.
ORANGES. >> WELL I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT'S
GOING ON IN THAT VIDEO.
I LOVE HIS SHIRT AND EVERYTHING
ABOUT HIM.
ABOUT HIM. BUT --
BUT --
BUT -- >>
BUT -- >> ERR THING.
>> YES EXACTLY.
>> OBVIOUSLY IS EVERYONE EQUAL
IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.
YOU CAN'T COMPARE A FELONY TO
SIGNING A READING LOG.
>> IT'S A CONTINUUM.
BUT IT'S THE SAME LINE.
IT'S JUST ONE'S MORE EGREGIOUS
THAN THE OTHER.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN
IS THE MESSAGE THAT THESE
PARENTS ARE GIVING WHETHER
THEY'RE SIGNING READING LOGS OR
PAYING HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS
WE'RE ABOVE THE RULES.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE
BY THE RULES THAT EVERYONE ELSE
HAS TO ABIDE BY AND THAT'S A
TERRIBLE MESSAGE.
TERRIBLE MESSAGE. NOW I THINK PARENTS ARE
WELL-INTENTIONED.
WELL-INTENTIONED. THESE ARE NOT EVIL PEOPLE BUT
THEY GET CARRIED AWAY AND THEY
DON'T REALIZE THE UNINTENDED
CONSEQUENCES.
CONSEQUENCES. >> IT CAN START OFF SMALL AS
YOU'RE SAYING BUT THEN PERHAPS
IT DID FOR THESE PARENTS THE
LITTLE THINGS AND THEN IT JUST
SNOW BALLS BECAUSE YOU'VE GOTTEN
USED TO KIND OF BENDING THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH.
TRUTH. >>
TRUTH. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> AND ESSENTIALLY ISN'T THAT
LAZY.
LAZY.
LAZY. THAT'S LAZY PARENTING.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> BECAUSE IF YOU WERE ON TOP OF
IT THEN YOU'D MAKE YOUR KIDS
READ AND DO THIS AND THAT.
OR MAKE THE NOT THE SACRIFICE
BUT MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AT
THE RIGHT TIME.
>> OR IF YOUR CHILD JUST GETS
INTO SCHOOL THEY GET INTO SCHOOL
AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO
ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
FIRST OF ALL AUNT BECKY IS MY
HUSBAND'S GIRLFRIEND.
HUSBAND'S GIRLFRIEND. I SAID YOUR GIRLFRIEND'S GOING
TO JAIL AND I LOVE JOHN.
>> YOU HAD A MOMENT FOR A MINUTE
WHERE YOU'RE LIKE LOOK WHO'S NOT
SO PERFECT.
SO PERFECT. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I HAD TO WORK VERY HARD TO GET
INTO COLLEGE.
INTO COLLEGE. I WAS AN ART MAJOR.
TESTING DOES NOT COME EASY TO
ME.
ME.
ME. IT
ME. IT TOOK ME TWICE TO GET INTO THE
COLLEGE I ENDED UP GOING INTO.
I INTERVIEWED FIRST AND THEY
SAID NOT YET YOU'VE GOT TO
FINISH YOUR AA AND GET ALL THESE
TESTS HIGHER SCORES SO IT'S
REALLY HARD TO SEE SOMEONE PAY
THEIR WAY INTO SCHOOL.
I COME FROM A MILITARY
BACKGROUND.
BACKGROUND. I HAD TO GET THERE ON MY OWN AND
THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND NOW
THEY'RE GETTING MORE PUBLICITY
AND THE KID HER DAUGHTER
ACTUALLY SAID MOM I DIDN'T WANT
TO GO TO SCHOOL ANYWAY.
>> I KNOW.
>> SHE'S STILL CONDUCTING
HERSELF.
HERSELF.
HERSELF. SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE COULD
CARELESS SHE'S WALKING INTO
COURT SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS.
>> THAT KILLS ME.
WE DO LOVE OUR FRIENDS VIRAL
VIDEO.
VIDEO.
VIDEO. EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT WAS
PERFECT.
PERFECT.
PERFECT. >>> LASTLY SOMETHING ELSE THAT
HAS A LOT OF MOMS TALKING LATELY
WELL IT'S A TREND OF MOTHERS
BASICALLY GETTING THEIR HAIR AND
MAKE UP DONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE IMMEDIATELY AFTER
GIVING BIRTH PERHAPS EVEN WHILE
GIVING BIRTH IS THAT POSSIBLE?
BUT LOOK AT THAT.
SO USUALLY AHEAD OF A PHOTOSHOOT
FROM A HOSPITAL BED LIKE THE
ONES YOU SEE HERE.
HOW IS THAT EVEN -- I'M JUST
THINKING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON
IN THOSE MOMENTS BUT I GUESS A
RECENT STUDY FOUND THAT THE
AVERAGE MOM APPLIES MAKE UP
WITHIN TWO AND A HALF HOURS OF
DELIVERY AND THE TOP REASON IS
TO LOOK GOOD ON CAMERA.
BUT THIS IS LIKE A FULL-ON PHOTO
SHOOT.
SHOOT.
SHOOT. IF
SHOOT. IF YOU NOTICE SHE DIDN'T HAVE
THE HOSPITAL GOWN ON.
>> HER AND HER BABY ALREADY
MATCHED.
MATCHED.
MATCHED. THEY WERE LIKE TWINNING ALREADY.
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
>> WELL, OKAY.
I DON'T WANT TO JUDGE BECAUSE I
REMEMBER GETTING A PEDICURE I
KNEW WHEN I WAS GOING TO HAVE
THE BABY.
THE BABY.
THE BABY. I WANTED TO PUT MY BEST FOOT
FORWARD IF I COULD SAY THAT.
IT WAS SUMMER SO I WAS GOING TO
WEAR FLIP-FLOPS I GUESS I WANTED
THE MIDWIFE TO BE IMPRESSED.
SO I UNDERSTAND PUTTING ON MAKE
UP BEFORE YOU LEAVE FOR
PICTURES.
PICTURES.
PICTURES. E WE'RE ALL COMMONERS AND
THERE'S A LIFE THAT HAPPENS IN
BETWEEN PHOTO OPPORTUNITIES.
AND IF YOUR WHOLE LIFE IS A
PHOTO OPPORTUNITY AND YOU'RE
GETTING READY FOR THE PICTURE,
WHERE'S YOUR LIFE?
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, AND ISN'T IT TAKING
AWAY FROM THE MIRACLE OF CHILD
BIRTH?
BIRTH?
BIRTH? >>
BIRTH? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WHAT'S WRONG WITH LOOKING
SWEATY AND TIRED BECAUSE THEY
CALL IT LABOR FOR A REASON.
IT'S HARD WORK.
I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE IT
WAS EASY, IT WAS HARD.
AND I EARNED THAT SWEAT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> AND WHETHER YOU ARE GIVING A
C-SECTION OR YOU HAD A NATURAL
CHILD BIRTH THINGS ARE ON YOUR
FACE.
FACE.
FACE. AT
FACE. AT ONE POINT I WAS BEING FLIPPED
OVER BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER'S HEART
BEAT.
BEAT.
BEAT. WE
BEAT. WE HAD CORDS EVERYWHERE.
BUT THE MOMENT IS AND SO WHEN I
SEE THINGS LIKE THIS I FEEL LIKE
WE AS SOCIETY ARE GOING OH, BUT
REMEMBER WHEN FAITH HILL GAVE
BIRTDZ AND SHE LOOKED SO GOOD IN
HER PICTURES AFTERWARD AND LOOK
HOW GOOD, THE ROYALS.
OKAY.
OKAY.
OKAY. >>
OKAY. >> THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL.
>> YOU ARE MISSING OUT.
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH
ATTENTION.
ATTENTION. >> THERE THEY ARE.
>> I'M OBSESSED WITH THE ROYALS.
>> THEY'RE GORGEOUS.
>> MY BAGS UNDER MY EYES I WAS
TELLING CARA BEFORE THE SHOW,
THIS PICTURE LOOKS LIKE A
DISTORTED VERSION.
DISTORTED VERSION. I WAS SO EXHAUSTED.
THAT WOULD BE THE LAST THING ON
MY MIND.
MY MIND.
MY MIND. EVENTUALLY I THINK A PICTURE I
WOULD PROBABLY HAVE LIPSTICK ON
AND YOU'RE SMILING WITH THE BABY
BUT IT WAS HOURS LATER, MAYBE
EVEN THE NEXT DAY.
WHAT DID YOU DO?
>> I LOOKED LIKE A TOTAL SERIAL
KILLER.
KILLER.
KILLER. I
KILLER. I WAS BLOATED AND TIRED.
>> I WENT TO BED WITH WET HAIR
THE NIGHT BEFORE.
I THINK I WAS A MESS.
IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT FINE BUT
I LOVE YOUR POINT ABOUT WHAT ARE
WE ENJOYING?
WE ENJOYING? ARE WE IN THE MOMENT?
IT FEELS SAD A LITTLE BIT.
>> AND ISN'T IT MORE TOUCHING
LIKE LET'S SAY ADOPTIVE PARENTS
WHEN THEY HAVE THAT PICTURE AND
THEIR EYES ARE PUFFY BECAUSE
THEY'VE BEEN CRYING TEARS OF JOY
ISN'T THAT MORE TOUCHING THAN A
PHOTO WHERE EVERYONE LOOKS
PLASTIC AND PERFECT.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> IT'S SO TRUE.
>> EVERYONE DID LOOK GOOD.
>> SHE DID.
I BET SHE GOT A LOT OF LIKES.
>> SHE DID.
>> AND SHE TAGGED THE PERSON
THAT SHE WAS WEARING AND THE
BABY WAS WEARING AND THE
HOSPITAL AND PHOTOGRAPHER GOT
CREDIT FOR IT.
SO GOOD FOR YOU.
>> YES.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> OH, GOSH.
LADIES.
LADIES.
LADIES. YOU'RE SO AWESOME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> WE APPRECIATE IT.
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