.
LIZ: THIS IS A SCARY STORY.
U.S. BLAMING NORTH KOREA FOR
WANNACRY CYBERATTACK THIS PAST
MAY.
IT HIT 300,000 COMPUTER IN 150
COUNTRIES.
HOSPITALS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS,
CONSUMERS ALL HIT.
NORTH KOREA STANDS ACCUSED OF
DEMANDING BITCOIN PAYMENTS IN
RETURN.
IS IT AN ACT OF WAR?
LET'S BRING IN FORMER GREEN
BERET COMMANDER, RETIRED
>> DEPENDS ON THE ACTIVITY.
THERE IS INTELLIGENCE
GATHERING, IN THIS CASE GOES TO
RAISE FUNDS FOR THE NORTH
HOSPITALS.
IT COULD BE, IF YOU BOMB A
POWER PLANT VERSUS INFILTRATE
IT AND BOMB IT UP FROM THE
INSIDE, THAT COULD BE AN ACT OF
WAR, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
DETER IT AND LET OUR
ADVERSARIES KNOW IF YOU DO THIS
THROUGH CYBER, WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE.
LIZ: NORTH KOREA RAISES
CHILDREN FROM YOUNG AGE TO DO
THESE KINDS OF ATTACKS?
>> ASIDE FROM THE RUSSIAN AND
CHINESE, NORTH KOREAN HAVE SOME
OF THE BEST CYBERCAPABILITY IN
THE WORLD.
THEY HAVE THE MATH PRODIGIES
AND GROOM THEM.
LIZ: THAT'S ALL THEY DO?
OF A COUNTERATTACK, IT WORRIES
ME OF ICBMs, THEY TRIED TO GET
OUR ELECTRICAL GRID AND SHUT IT
DOWN.
LIZ: LIKELY BY THE RUSSIANS,
BUT THE NORTH KOREAN ATTACK
AFFECTED SURGERIES IN THE UK
HAD TO BE STOPPED BECAUSE OF
THIS, WOW, WHAT AN ATTACK.
>>> GET TO THE PRESIDENT
THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING
ROLL TAPE.
>> A NATION WITHOUT BORDERS IS
NOT A NATION.
[APPLAUSE]
>> A NATION THAT DOES NOT
PROTECT PROSPERITY AT HOME
CANNOT PROTECT ITS INTERESTS
ABROAD.
A NATION THAT IS NOT PREPARED
TO WIN A WAR, IS A NATION NOT
CAPABLE OF PREVENTING A WAR.
A NATION THAT IS NOT PROUD OF
ITS HISTORY CANNOT BE CONFIDENT
IN ITS FUTURE.
AND A NATION THAT IS NOT
CERTAIN OF ITS VALUES CANNOT
SUMMON THE WILL TO DEFEND THEM.
LIZ: THIS IS A FAR CRY FROM
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S 2009 APOLOGY
TOUR.
REMEMBER THIS?
>> THE EARLY DECISIONS THAT
WE'VE MADE THAT YOU'RE STARTING
WORLD.
>> THERE ARE TIMES WHERE
AMERICA'S SHOWN ARROGANCE AND
DERISSIVE AND DISMISSIVE.
>> WE AT TIMES HAVE BEEN
DISENGAGED AND AT TIMES WE
SOUGHT TO DICTATE OUR TERMS.
>> WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE
POTENTIALLY WE'VE MADE SOME
MISTAKE.
LIZ: WHAT DO YOU MAKE IN THE
CHANGE IN TONE, COLONEL?
>> AS A SOLDIER ABROAD, THAT
MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE
WORLD.
AT ITS CORE, I THINK PRESIDENT
OBAMA TRULY BELIEVED THAT
AMERICAN INTERVENTION AND
LEADERSHIP ABROAD DID MORE HARM
THAN GOOD, AND I THINK WHAT
WE'RE SEEING NOW AS PRESIDENT
TRUMP SAYING WELL, NOT PERFECT,
THE UNITED STATES MUST LEAD IN
ACCORDANCE WITH OUR VALUES AND
AMERICA'S BACK.
LIZ: WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE
A DAMAGED AMERICA IN THE EYES
OF THE WORLD?
>> IF THE AMERICANS ARE NOT
GOING TO LEAD, WHO IS IN THE
RUSSIAN?
THE CHINESE?
THAT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH
FREE MARKETS, FREE PRESS,
LIBERALISM, IN THE BROAD SENSE,
AND IF THE REST OF THE WORLD IS
LOOKING FOR THE UNITED STATES
TO LEAD AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN
OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS IS
WITHDRAWAL OF AMERICAN
LEADERSHIP THAT WE'VE ALL, I
I'M ALSO ENCOURAGED TO SEE
ECONOMIC ASPECTS PUT UP-FRONT
AND CENTER.
ECONOMIC SECURITY IS NATIONAL
SECURITY.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN, WHETHER IT'S
CURRENCY MANIPULATION, UNFAIR
TRADE PRACTICES AND THE THEFT
OF OUR -- WE WERE TALKING A
MINUTE AGO ABOUT CYBER, THE
TECHNOLOGICAL EDGE WHOLESALE TO
BE FRONT AND CENTER OF THE
STRATEGY.
I WAS ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH
GENERAL McMASTER AND THAT IS