>> THAT’S WHY WE HAVE THE HEARING.
HEARING. >> THAT’S WHY WE DON’T PREJUDGE.
>> JULIE SWETNIK GAVE HER FIRST
AND ONLY TV INTERVIEW TO YOU
SINCE LEVELING THOSE ALLEGATIONS
AGAINST BRETT KAVANAUGH.
KAVANAUGH IN A STATEMENT
RELEASED BY THE WHITE HOUSE
DENIES THE ALLEGATIONS.
SWETNIK IS THE FIRST KAVANAUGH
ACCUSER TO SPEAK ON CAMERA.
>> IT’S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE
THE THINGS THAT YOU DETAIL IN
THE AFFIDAVIT.
THE AFFIDAVIT. WHAT IS IT THAT CAUSED YOU TO
DECIDE TO COME FORWARD AT THIS
VERY MOMENT ONE DAY BEFORE THE
HEARINGS TO MAKE YOURSELF
PUBLIC.?
PUBLIC.? >> WELL, IT WASN’T THAT I WANTED
TO COME OUT ONE DAY BEFORE THE
HEARINGS.
HEARINGS. THAT JUST -- CIRCUMSTANCES
BROUGHT IT OUT THAT WAY.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED
A LONG TIME AGO AND IT’S NOT
THAT I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
IT’S BEEN ON MY MIND EVER SINCE
THE OCCURRENCE.
THE OCCURRENCE. AS FAR AS IT GOES, BRETT
KAVANAUGH IS GOING FOR A SEAT
WHERE HE’S GOING TO HAVE THAT
SEAT ON THE SUPREME COURT FOR
THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
IF HE’S GOING TO HAVE THAT SEAT
LEGITIMATELY, ALL OF THESE
THINGS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED
BECAUSE, FROM WHAT I EXPERIENCED
FIRSTHAND, I DON’T THINK HE
BELONGS ON THE SUPREME COURT.
I JUST WANT THE FACTS TO COME
OUT AND I WANT IT TO BE JUDGE
AND I WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
OF TO HAVE THOSE FACTS AND TO
JUDGE FOR THEMSELVES.
>> IN THE THINGS IN YOUR
STATEMENT, ARE THERE CERTAIN
THINGS THATISQUALIFY YOU FROM
BEING A SUPREME COURT NOMINEE?
>> I THINK ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I DON’T THINK ANY HUMAN BEING
SHOULD TREAT PEOPLE THAT WAY.
>> SO MISS SWETNIK’S ALLEGATION
SAYS JUDGE KAVANAUGH WAS PRESENT
AT PARTIES WHERE SHE WAS G A ANG
RAPED.
RAPED. >> SHE WAS THE NOT IN A POSITION
YESTERDAY -- SHE WAS NOT REALLY
READY TO DO A FULL FORMAL
SIT-DOWN INTERVIEW.
SIT-DOWN INTERVIEW. WE GOT A CHANCE TO TALK TO HER A
LITTLE BIT AT THE END OF A
PRETTY LONG DAY WHEN MICHAEL
AVANATI AND SHE RELEASED HER
SWORN AFFIDAVIT.
SWORN AFFIDAVIT. THEIR POSITION RIGHT NOW IS THEY
HAVE POTENTIAL CORROBORATING
WITNESSES, BUT THEY WANT TO
BRING THOSE FORWARD AND GO INTO
FURTHER DETAIL IN THE CONTEXT OF
WHAT IS NOW BECOMING A PRETTY
COMMON DEMANDS WITH A LOT OF
PEOPLE ACCUSING JUDGE KAVANAUGH.
THEY WANT TO HAVE A FULL FBI
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE
AND HER ATTORNEYS THINK, THAT IS
THE PROPER COURSE CAN HERE.
SHE HAS MADE A SWORN STATEMENT.
BECAUSE SHE HAS ACTIVE SECURITY
CLEARANCE, IF SHE IS PROVEN TO
HAVE PERCENTAGERED HERSELF, SHE
WOULD LOSE HER LIVELIHOOD.
BUT THEY SAYING WE WANT TO HAVE
THE FBI INVESTIGATE AND WE
THINK, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE,
THAT THERE IS A RUSH NOW TO VOTE
ON JUDGE KAVANAUGH BEFORE THE
TRUTH CAN BE SOUGHT IN A
REASONABLE WAY.
REASONABLE WAY. >> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A
LIFETIME APPOINTMENT HERE.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
ARE TALKING ABOUT NOWING THROUGH
AND VOTING FOR JUDGE CAVANAUGH.
HOW DO YOU DO THAT WITHOUT AN
FBI INVESTIGATION?
FBI INVESTIGATION? WHICH MAKES DAYS A WEEK.
BUT HOW DO YOU DO THAT BECAUSE
YOU’RE RISKING THE TYPES OF
POSSIBILITY THAT AN
INVESTIGATION DOES OCCUR AFTER
HE’S ON THE BENCH AND MAYBE SOME
OF THOSE STORIES PAN OUT AS
BEING TRUTHFUL.
BEING TRUTHFUL. AND THEN AT THAT POINT SUDDENLY
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON
THE SUPREME COURT WHERE
EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE CALLING
FOR IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS.
SO I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE
POLITICS FOR REPUBLICANS TO SAY
WE’RE GOING TO JAM THIS THROUGH
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. I UNDERSTAND THERE’S A TIME
FRAME THAT THEY HAVE TO GET IT
BY.
BY. BUT, AGAIN, IF THEY HAD
REQUESTED AN FBI INVESTIGATION A
WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF AGO WHEN
EVERYBODY WAS ASKING THEM TO,
THEY WOULD HAVE THEIR ANSWER
BACK AT LEAST ON DR. FORD BY
NOW.
NOW. >> AND TRULY, JOE, THERE IS
REALLY NO TIME FRAME.
THERE IS NO REAL HURRY HERE,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? THIS IS A REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT
KEPT MERRICK GARLAND OFF THE
COURT.
COURT. THE NOTION THERE MIGHT BE NINE
IS CONTRADICTED BY THE BEHAVIOR
OF THE MAJORITY IN THE SENATE
WHEN JUST LAST YEAR -- FOR THE
SAKE OF JUDGE KAVANAUGH, IF HE
WANTS TO HAVE A LIFETIME
APPOINTMENT ON THE SUPREME
COURT, I WOULD THINK WHAT HE
WOULD WANT IS A THOROUGH
INVESTIGATION EVEN IF IT TOOK A
WEEK, TWO WEEKS, THREE WEEKS,
FOUR WEEKS.
FOUR WEEKS. IF HE COULD THEN HAVE HIS NAME
FULLY CLEARED AND TAKE HIS SEAT
ON THE COURT WITHOUT ANY SHRED
OF DOUBT, WOULD THAT NOT BE THE
BETTER OUTCOME FOR HIM AND FOR
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?
AND I THINK YOU WERE EXACTLY
RIGHT THAT IF THEY JAM THIS VOTE
THROUGH AND IF THESE ACCUSATIONS
WHICH ARE MOUNTING, THE
ACCUSATIONS WE MUST TAKE
SERIOUSLY ARE WOMEN WHO PUT
THEIR NAME TO THE ACCUSATION.
I THINK THEY HAVE TO BE TAKEN
SERIOUSLY.
SERIOUSLY. AND THE IDEA THAT THERE’S
SOMEHOW THAT JAMMING THROUGH
THIS IS GOING TO WORK TO THEIR
BENEFIT, IF THESE ACCUSATIONS
CONTINUE TO BE INVESTIGATED AND
DEMOCRATS TAKE THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES, IT’S NOT
IMPLAUSIBLE TO ME THAT DEMOCRATS
WILL TRY AND IMPEACH JUDGE
CAVANAUGH WHILE HE’S ON THE
SUPREME COURT NEXT YEAR IF
CONTINUED INVESTIGATIONS OF
THESE THINGS PROVE THAT THEY ARE
LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS.
LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS. AND WHO CAN WANT THAT ON EITHER
SIDE OF THE AISLE?
>> THE JAMMING THROUGH OF THIS
DOES NOT HELP THE REPUBLICANS.
IT’S NOT GOOD FOR THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
PARTY. IT’S NOT GOOD FOR THE COURT.
AND IT’S NOT GOOD FOR JUDGE
KAVANAUGH.
KAVANAUGH. IF I’M JUDGE KAVANAUGH, I WANT
THE FBI TO DIG IN AND LET ME GET
ON THE SUPREME COURT WITHOUT A
CLOUD OVER MY HEAD.
>> SO YOU CAN SEE MORE OF JOHN’S
INTERVIEW WITH JULIE SWE THE
TNIK ON THIS SUNDAY’S EPISODE OF
"THE CIRCUS."
"THE CIRCUS." STILL AHEAD, WE SHOWED YOU
SOMETHING LINDSEY GRAHAM
PREVIOUSLY SAID.
PREVIOUSLY SAID. THERE’S A DECADES OLD CLIP OF
JOE BIDEN MAKING THE ROUNDS
ABOUT THE ROLE OF THE FBI IN
THESE SITUATIONS.
THESE SITUATIONS. WE’LL PUT THAT INTO THE NEEDED
PERSPECTIVE.
PERSPECTIVE. >> JOE BIDEN 1991, THAT’S FULL
BIDEN.
BIDEN. THAT IS FULL BIDEN.
>>> PLUS, FORMER REPUBLICAN
STRATEGIST STEVE SCHMIDT IS HERE
WITH HIS TAKE ON ALL OF THIS AND
YAMISH WHO ASKED A TOUGH
QUESTION OF THE PRESIDENT
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. YOU’RE WATCHING "MORNING JOE."