ARIZONA’S FIRST FEMALE SENATOR AFTER A HARD-FOUGHT BATTLE.
I WISH HER ALL SUCCESS AS SHE
REPRESENTS ARIZONA IN THE
SENATE.
SENATE. >> FOR MORE, I’M JOINED BY
ROBERT COSTA, "WASHINGTON POST"
NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER,
RYAN COSTELLO, REPUBLICAN FROM
PENNSYLVANIA, AND U.S.
CONGRESSWOMAN, SHAREERRI BUSTO F
ILLINOIS.
ILLINOIS. SO I WANTED TO SHOW McSALLY IN
THE NORMAL WAY YOU CONCEDE, EVEN
THOUGH THAT WAS VERY NICE, EVEN
CUTE SITTING THERE WITH THE DOG,
THAT WAS VERY NICE.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOSE, YOU
LOSE.
LOSE. NUMBERS TALK.
NUMBERS TALK. TRUMP’S OUT THERE SAYING,
STEALING, FRAUD, THESE PEOPLE
ARE UP TO MISCHIEF.
HE’S GOT HIS COWKOWTOWERS RUNNIN
ALONG, LIKE LINDSEY GRAHAM,
SAYING MISCHIEF.
SAYING MISCHIEF. HE HAS ALL OF THESE PEOPLE
SAYING THIS STUFF.
THIS IS WHAT THEY SAY IN
COUNTRIES LIKE PAKISTAN, WHERE
THEY HANG THE LOSERS.
WHERE THEY SAY, EVERY ELECTION
YOU LOSE IS RIGGED.
LIKE ZIMBABWE, EVERY ELECTION IS
RIGGED IF YOU LOSE IT.
THIS IS THE STUFF WE USED TO BE
PROUD OF IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT
WE ACCEPT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE’S NO
EVIDENCE WHATEVER, ACCORDING TO
THE SECRETARY OF STATE DOWN IN
FLORIDA, OF ANY MISBEHAVIOR, OF
ANY IRREGULARITIES.
ANY IRREGULARITIES. AND THE PRESIDENT’S OUT THERE
TRUMPETING THESE LIES.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
YOUR THOUGHTS? >> YOU NAILED IT, CHRIS.
BUT LET’S LOOK AT WHAT’S GOING
ON RIGHT NOW.
WE’VE GOT THE SERVICE MEN AND
WOMEN WHO HAVE VOTED, WHO HAVE
SENT IN THEIR BALLOTS AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SAYING WE’VE
GOT TO PUT THIS TO A STOP RIGHT
NOW.
NOW. LET’S NOT COUNT ANYMORE BALLOTS.
I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
WE’RE ONE DAY PAST VETERANS DAY.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT THESE
MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WOFHO
HAVE GONE THROUGH THE EFFORT TO
VOTE AND HE’S SAYING, LET’S STOP
THIS NOW.
THIS NOW. PRESIDENT TRUMP USED THE WORD
"DISGRACEFUL."
"DISGRACEFUL." HE IS ACTING IN A DISGRACEFUL
MANNER TO SAY ANYTHING OTHER
THAN THAT WE SHOULD GET TO THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH. WE SHOULD GET TO THE -- ACCOUNT
EVERY LAST PLATBALLOT.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE WE RESTORE
THE INTEGRITY IN THIS PROCESS
RATHER THAN INTERFERING WITH THE
PROCESS.
PROCESS. AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT HE’S
DOING RIGHT NOW.
>> YOU’RE RIGHT.
THE SERVICEPEOPLE’S VOTES AREN’T
EVEN DUE IN UNTIL LATER THIS
WEEK.
WEEK. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> IS HE AFRAID OF LOSING THIS
ELECTION FOR THE GOVERNORSHIP OF
THE SENATE DOWN THERE, OR IS HE
AFRAID OF LOSING THE NEXT
ELECTION?
ELECTION? AND THAT’S WHY HE’S CRAWLING,
YELLING OUT "FRAUD" AND "FRAUD"!
HE’S PROBABLY GOING TO WIN THESE
TWO.
TWO. THEY’VE GOT THE ADVANTAGE DOWN
THERE.
THERE. SO WHY IS HE SAYING THIS UNLESS
HE’S TRYING TO DO WHAT HE TOLD
LESLEY STAHL HE WAS GOING TO DO.
DISCREDIT ANY OBSTACLE, DO
WHATEVER HE WANTS, SAY WHATEVER
HE WANTS, SO WHEN HE DOES HAVE A
CRISIS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2020, HE
CAN CRY "FRAUD" THEN AND HIS
TROOPS WILL COME OUT AND SAY,
YES, YES, YES, SIR, THAT’S TRUE,
THEY STOLE IT AGAIN.
>> WELL, HE’S ADISTRACTER, I MEA
KNOWS THAT.
KNOWS THAT. BUT LOOK WHAT HE’S DOING TO THE
PREZ.
PREZ. FOR HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT, THE PREZSS IS THE ENEMY O
THE PEOPLE.
THE PEOPLE. I’M A FORMER REPORTER.
THAT’S WHAT I DID FOR ALMOST TWO
DECADES.
DECADES. AND I CAN TELL YOU WE WENT INTO
THE NEWSROOM EVERY SINGLE DAY,
JUST AS YOU DO, TO GET TO THE
TRUTH.
TRUTH. AND IF WE NEED TO EXPOSE
CORRUPTION, WE EXPOSE
CORRUPTION.
CORRUPTION. IF WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT
FAMILIES THAT ARE DOING GREAT
THINGS, WE’LL TALK ABOUT
FAMILIES THAT ARE DOING GREAT
THINGS.
THINGS. BUT DRMPONALD TRUMP, TO CALL THE
PRESS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE,
TO INTERFERE WITH THE ELECTION
PROCESS, TO SPRYTRY TO UNDERMINE
AMERICANS’ FAITH IN THE ELECTION
SYSTEM, THAT IS DISGRACEFUL.
AND WE NEED TO -- YOU BROUGHT UP
2020.
2020. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE
SUCCESSFUL IN 2020.
WE JUST HAD A VERY GOOD ELECTION
CYCLE.
CYCLE. IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE HOUSE, WE
COULD PICK UP AS MANY AS 39
SEATS.
SEATS. WE STILL HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN
PLAY.
PLAY. WHICH IS A VERY STRONG NUMBER.
WE WON IN DISTRICTS WHERE WE
DIDN’T THINK WE WERE GOING TO
EVEN HAVE A SHOT AT WINNING.
AND NOW WHAT -- YOU KNOW, I’M
RUNNING FOR CHAIR OF THE
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE, AND SHOULD I
BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT, I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE HANG ON TO
THESE TOUGH DISTRICTS.
AND THESE ONES THAT WE BARELY
LOST, PLACES LIKE CENTRAL
ILLINOIS, WHERE BETSY DIERKS
LANERGAN ONLY LOST BY A VERY
SLIGHT MARGIN, THAT WE GET THESE
PEOPLE TO RUN GREAT CAMPAIGNS
AGAIN AND WE’RE SUCCESSFUL IN
2020.
2020. >> HOLD ON, CONGRESSMAN.
LET’S GO TO ROBERT COSTA.
YOU KNOW DONALD TRUMP, IS HE
ANGRY OR ANGLING FOR THE NEXT
ELECTION?
ELECTION? WHY IS HE GOING AROUND SAYING
THINGS ABOUT THE FLORIDA RACE?
BOTH OF HIS CANDIDATES DOWN
THERE FOR GOVERNOR AND SENATE
ARE AHEAD.
ARE AHEAD. THERE’S NO REAL EVIDENCE THAT
THEY’RE NOT GOING TO WIN.
WHY IS HE OUT THERE TRASHING THE
SYSTEM AND THE RECOUNT?
>> TALKING TO WHITE HOUSE
OFFICIALS AND CONFIDANTS OF THE
PRESIDENT, THEY SAY HE’S A MAN
ALONE AFTER THE MIDTERM
ELECTIONS.
ELECTIONS. PREPARING TO MAKE CHANGES IN HIS
CABINET, LOOKING POSSIBLY AT
MAKING A CHANGE AS CHIEF OF
STAFF.
STAFF. IT’S HIM, HIS TWITTER --
>> WHY IS HE SO TICKED OFF?
>> HE’S TICKED OFF BECAUSE HE’S
LOST POWER.
LOST POWER. YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL AS --
>> HE’S LOST THE HOUSE.
DID HE FELT HE GOT A REJECTION
FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE
POPULAR VOTE, IN THE NATIONWIDE
NATIONAL COUNT WENT AGAINST HIM?
>> HE ALSO FEELS VULNERABLE WITH
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, NOT
KNOWING WHAT’S GOING TO BE IN
THAT REPORT THAT’S COMING OUT
PERHAPS IN A FEW WEEKS.
>> NUMBER ONE, HE LIKES TO BE
BAD COP.
BAD COP. AND WE’VE ALL GONE THROUGH
ELECTION LITIGATION AND WHEN
YOU’RE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU
DON’T PLAY BAD COP.
THAT’S FOR THE LAWYERS TO DO.
NUMBER TWO, HE DOESN’T LAKE
PROCESS.
PROCESS. AND WHEN HE SEES TWO PEOPLE
BATTLING AND HE SEES A STALEMATE
OR HE DOESN’T SEE SOMETHING
HAVING ENDED WHEN HE LIKES IT TO
END, HE LIKES TO INSERT HIMSELF,
AND HE JUST STARTS SWINGING AT
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE. THAT’S WHAT HE’S DONE HERE.
>> WHY DOES HE ASSUME OR SAY
THAT NOTHING IS ON THE LEVEL?
I MEAN, THERE’S NOTHING THAT
HE’S SAID THAT THE FBI IS ON THE
LEVEL, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS
NOT ON THE LEVEL, THE PRESS IS
NOT ON THE LEVEL, THE FLORIDA
ELECTION MACHINE IS NOT ON THE
LEVEL.
LEVEL. EVERYBODY’S A CHEAT, HOW HE
LOOKS AT IT.
IS HE PROJECTING?
>> THAT’S HOW HE FIGHTS.
IT’S GRIEVANCE POPULISM.
THAT’S THE SAME THING HE SAID IN
2015, KNOWSAYING THAT EVERYTHING
RIG
RIG RIGGED.
RIGGED. >> DOES HE KNOW HE’S TEARING
DOWN THESE INSTITUTIONS?
>> ALL HE DOES IS SHATTER NORMS
FOR A LIVING.
ALL HE’S BEEN DOING SINCE HE WAS
ELECTED IS SHATTERING
PRESIDENTIAL NORMS.
PRESIDENTIAL NORMS. >> BUT WHEN FBI AGENTS, MEN OR
WOMEN, WHATEVER THEIR POLITICS,
THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND RISK
THEIR LIVES.
THEIR LIVES. DOESN’T HE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE
TO BE SEEN AS PEOPLE OF
INTEGRITY WHO REPRESENT THE
GOVERNMENT AND NOT AS, YOU KNOW,
OFF -- YOU KNOW, CROOKS?
>> THIS IS A PRESIDENT --
>> WHO HAVE STENCH, AS HE PUT
IT?
IT? >> THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO
EMBRACED KRIS KOBACH IN KANSAS
WHO LOST THE GUBERNATORIAL RACE,
AND DESPITE REALLY NO EVIDENCE
THAT THERE’S RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HE’S GOING
BEHIND CANDIDATES THAT SAY THERE
IS.
IS. >> HERE HE IS WITH THE REAL
THIRD WORLD STUFF.
IT’S NOT THE FIRST TIME TRUMP
HAS QUESTIONED THE LEGITIMACY OF
OUR ELECTIONS.
OUR ELECTIONS. MONTHS BEFORE THE PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION IN 2016, WHEN HE
THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO LOSE, HE
BEGAN CLAIMING THE ELECTION WAS
RIGGED.
RIGGED. LET’S WATCH THAT.
>> AND I’M AFRAID THE ELECTION
IS GOING TO BE RIGGED, I HAVE TO
BE HONEST.
BE HONEST. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU
DON’T HAVE PEOPLE VOTING TEN
TIMES.
TIMES. I HOPE IT’S GOING TO BE A VERY
FAIR ELECTION.
FAIR ELECTION. I DON’T KNOW THAT IT WILL BE.
I HOPE IT’S GOING TO BE.
WE’RE IN A RIGGED SYSTEM, FOLKS.
WE’RE IN A RIGGED SYSTEM.
THE ONLY WAY WE CAN UNRIG IT IS
GET TO THE POLLS.
BUT WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE
THEY’RE HONEST POLLS.
WE’VE GOT TO MAKE SURE.
I WILL TOTALLY ACCEPT THE
RESULTS OF THIS GREAT AND