>>> AFTER THESE FAMILIES ARE HOPING THE BORDER PATROL COMES
OUT HERE TO FIND THEM AND THEN
BRINGS THEM BACK INTO DETENTION.
WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW WITH THE
ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY THOSE
FAMILIES ARE GETTING SEPARATED
AND IT’S CREATING THIS CRISIS ON
THE BORDER.
THE BORDER. THE BORD BOR PATROL SAYS IN
AREAS LIKE THIS IT HAS NOT
DETERRED PEOPLE FROM CROSSING.
>> AND WE’RE BACK.
THAT WAS MY COLLEAGUE JACOB
ALONG THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER
TODAY EARLIER TODAY.
ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS
AND WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF
JOHN KELLY HAVE ACTUALLY SAID
THIS IS POLICY THAT WAS INTENDED
TO BE USED AS A DETERRENT.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND
SECURITY TELLS JACOB IT COULD BE
WEEKS BEFORE THEY SEE THE POLICY
DETERRING ANYONE FROM LEAVING
CENTRAL AMERICA.
CENTRAL AMERICA. MEANWHILE THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN
HAVE BEEN TAKEN FROM THEIR
PARENTS AT PROCESSING ANDS.
JACOB, I FEEL LIKE YOU’RE
SPENDING MORE TIME IN FRONT OF
THE CAMERAS THE LAST FEW HOURS,
AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
BUT FRANKLY YOU’RE OUR WITNESS
ACCOUNT, FIRST-HAND ACCOUNT.
FIRST OF ALL, TELL ME WHAT
YOU’VE SEEN TODAY.
>> WELL, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
ABOUT WHAT I’VE HEARD AND SEEN.
I’VE BEEN INSIDE THIS FACILITY.
IT’S THE BORDER PATROL
PROCESSING STATION CENTRAL TO
ALL OF THIS.
MORE THAN 1,100 KIDS HAVE BEEN
SEPARATED JUST IN THIS SECTOR,
ALONG THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN
BORDER.
BORDER. I SAW THAT THAT.
I SAW THE MATTRESSES ON THE
FLOOR, I SAW THE CAGES INSIDE.
WHAT I HEARD TODAY WAS KRISTEN
NIELSEN, THE ECHOES OF WHAT SHE
HEARD YESTERDAY, SHE’S BEEN
INSIDE TODAY.
INSIDE TODAY. BUT FROM OUR COLLEAGUES TODAY WE
FOUND OUT SHE’S NEVER BEEN
INSIDE HERE.
INSIDE HERE. SHE’S BEEN IN A DETENTION
FACILITY IN ARIZONA AFTER THIS
POLICY WAS ANNOUNCED.
BUT THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND
SECURITY IS TALKING ABOUT THE
POLICY THAT’S SEPARATING KIDS
FROM THEIR PARENTS AT A RATE
THAT’S NEVER, EVER BEEN DONE
BEFORE, HAS NOT BEEN TO IF
FACILITY AT THE CENTER OF IT
ALL.
ALL. >> WHO’S THE HIGHEST GOVERNMENT
OFFICIAL THAT HAS FROM THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION?
ADMINISTRATION? >> MAYBE THE SECTOR CHIEF OF THE
BORDER PATROL, EMMANUEL PADIA.
I WONDER IF THE REPRESENTATIVE
FROM THE BORDER PATROL
COMMISSIONER YOU HAD ON LAST
WEEK HAS EVER BEEN SIGHTED HERE
AND SEEN WHAT’S GOING ON IN
HERE.
HERE. IT’S JUST THIS DISCONNECT
BETWEEN WHAT’S GOING ON IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. AND WHAT IS
PLAYING OUT ON THE GROUND RIGHT
NOW.
NOW. AND GUESS WHAT?
THEY’RE STILL COMING.
THEY’RE COMING ACROSS THE
BOARDSER
BOARDSER BOARDER TODAY AT RATES THEY’VE
BEEN COMING ACROSS THE BORDER
BEFORE THIS POLICYWISE WAS ENACT
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WORDS
HAS GOTTEN AROUND I ASSUME THIS
ISN’T GOING TO TAKE WEEKS TO GET
OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE’S
SOME SORT OF FANTASYLAND HERE
WHERE THEY THINK PEOPLE THAT
HAVE DECIDED TO TREK HUNDREDS OF
MILES RISKING THEIR LIFE IS
SOMEHOW, OH, NO, I’M NOT GOING
TO GO ALL THE WAY?
DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THESE
FOLKS LEAVE?
FOLKS LEAVE? >> THEY’RE SOME OF THE MOST
DESPERATE PEOPLE I’VE EVER MET
IN IMY ENTIRE LIFE, CHUCK.
THEY’RE FLEEING VIOLENCE AND
PERSECUTION.
PERSECUTION. WHY ELSE WOULD YOU GO SIT ON A
BRIDGE AT A PORT OF ENTRY FOR
WEEKS AT A TIME TO GET INTO THE
THE UNITED STATES.
I SAT DOWN WITH THE CHIEF OF THE
SECTOR TODAY AND I ASKED HIM,
THEY’VE BEEN FLOATING THESE
LINES WHICH ARE RIDICULOUS
TALKING ABOUT THERE’S FRAUD IN
THE SYSTEM, AND I SAID HOW MANY
FAMILIES OUT TOF PERCENTAGE OF
PEOPLE YOU’VE APPREHENDED ARE
ARE FRAUDULENT.
ARE FRAUDULENT. OUT OF TENS OF THOUSANDS, 1% OF
THEM ARE PHONY FAMILIES TRYING
TO MAKE THEIR WAY IN HERE.
IT’S JUST PHONY MATH.
>> AND THE FRAUD, CORRECT ME IF
I’M WRONG, THE FRAUD IS ACTUALLY
FRAUD MANY OF THESE IMMIGRANTS
HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST THEM,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? THEY’RE PAYING PEOPLE IN ORDER
TO GET THROUGH THE TREK SAFELY,
AND THOSE ARE THE SCAM ARTISTS,
AND THOSE ARE BAD PEOPLE.
BUT THEY’RE NOT -- THEY’RE
SCAMMING THE IMMIGRANTS, AREN’T
THEY?
THEY? >> WE’RE TALKING ABOUT CAYOTES
SOUTH OF THE BORDER.
AND THEY ARE.
THEY’RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
PEOPLE COMING ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN BORDER, AND THESE CAR
TELL ORGANIZATIONS HAVE GOTTEN
SO STRONG BECAUSE OF THE DRUG
WARS DOWN THERE.
BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF
THE CRIMES.
THE CRIMES. NOT BECAUSE THEY’RE STUPID BUT
THEY’RE DESPERATE.
THEY’RE DESPERATE. THEY’RE TRYING TO GET INTO THIS
COUNTRY ANYWAY THEY CAN, AND
THOSE CAR TELLS ARE CONTROLLING
THAT TERRITORY DOWN THERE.
AND IF THE GOVERNMENT WANTED TO
FOCUS ON SOLVING A PROBLEM,
THEY’D FIGURE OUT HOW TO
ERADICATE THE CAR TELLS AND DO
SOME DIPLOMACY AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE
ARE COMING HERE TO BASICALLY
SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES, CHAIR
THEIR LIVES FOREVER.
THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE HOPING TO DO
IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND INSTEAD WE’RE PUTTING THEM
IN THIS BUILDING AND NOW TAKING
THEIR KIDS AWAY FROM THEM AT
RATES WE’VE NEVER SEEN
HISTORICALLY BEFORE.
HISTORICALLY BEFORE. >> IF YOU JUST WALKED IN RIGHT
NOW, WOULD THEY KICK YOU OUT?
>> NO.
>> NO. AND YOU KNOW WHO ELSE ISN’T
LETTING US IN, IS THE DEPARTMENT
OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES.
>> MEANING YOU WOULD NOT BE
ALLOWED TO GO IN.
>> THEY’RE SAYING THERE’S GOING
TO BE ANOTHER MEDIA TOUR OF THIS
FACILITY.
FACILITY. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER DETENTION
CENTERS, THERE ARE THOSE TOO.
AND HAVEN’T SEEN THE GIRLS,
HAVEN’T SEEN THE CHILDREN.
THEY OFFERED TO GIVE US PICTURES
OF 2016 BEFORE THIS POLICY IS
ENACTED AND I SAID NO THANK YOU,
WE’LL WAIT FOR OUR TOUR.