NUCLEAR THREAT, NO BIG DEAL, AND ALAS, THEY ARE DEVELOPING MORE
MISSILES.
MISSILES. >> SOON, NO CONDITIONS FOR GUNS,
APARPT LAY.
APARPT LAY. THIS MORNING, THE PLAN FOR GHOST
GUNS ARE UP ONLINE.
THESE ARE FIREARM COMPONENTS FOR
RIFLES AND GUNS WHO CAN BE
CREATED BY ANYONE AT HOME WHO
HAS A 3-D PRINTER.
THERE.
THERE. >> THE PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN
SAYING I’M LOOKING INTO 3-D GUNS
BEING SOLD TO THE PUBLIC.
ALREADY SPOKE TO THE NRA.
IT UZ DOESN’T SEEM TO MAKE MUCH
SENSE.
SENSE. IT WAS THE TRUMP STATE
DEPARTMENT THAT DROPPED THE
LAWSUIT TO STOP THE BLUEPRINTS.
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION STARTED
THEM SAYING THE PLANS COULD BE
DOWNLOADED BY TERRORISTS, AND
BEYOND DROPPING THE LAWSUIT, THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING
AT CHANGING THE VERY RULE THE
DESIGNER WAS ORIGINALLY SUED
UNDER.
UNDER. AND TO THE SECOND PART OF THE
BREADS
BREADS PRESIDENT’S TWEET, THERE’S NO
WORD WHY HE WOULD CHECK IN WITH
THE GUN LOBBY OR WHY THE
CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE TAKEN
PLACE.
PLACE. LET’S SLOW IT DOWN.
THE NRA IS SASPECIAL INTEREST
GROUP.
GROUP. HE DIDN’T SAY HE SPOKE TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR THE
STATE DEPARTMENT.
STATE DEPARTMENT. HE’S NOT SPEAKING TO ANY OTHER
GUN CONTROL GROUPS, BUT THE
PRESIDENT TOOK TO TWITTER TO SAY
I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE NRA.
SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE
CHANLTED OVER AND OVER, DRAIN
THE SWAMP, WALK US THROUGH --
>> WHY YOU WOULD GO TO THE
INDUSTRY GROUP.
INDUSTRY GROUP. >> WHY WOULD YOU CONTACT THE
LARGEST LOBBYING GROUP EVER, THE
NRA, ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE
GHOST GUN.
GHOST GUN. >> AS OF LAST WEEK, ONE OF THE
ORGANIZATION’S VIDEOS CALLED 3-D
GUNS FREEDOM AND INNOVATION.
TOM COSTELLO HAS MORE ON THE
GUNS AND WHY THE PRESIDENT
SHOULD BE CHECKING WITH HIS OWN
STATE DEPARTMENT RATHER THAN THE
NRA.
NRA. >> THIS MORNING, GROWING
PUSHBACK AGAINST A NEW TYPE OF
FIREARM THAT SOME PEOPLE CAN
ACTUALLY BUILD IN THEIR OWN
HOME.
HOME. EIGHT ATTORNEYS GENERAL NOW
ASKING A JUDGE TO BLOCK A TEXAS
COMPANY FROM PUBLISHING THE
DOWNLOADABLE INSTRUCTIONS FOR
3-D PRINTERS TO MANUFACTURE
GUNS.
GUNS. FROM HANDGUNS TO SEMIAUTOMATICS
MADE OF PLASTIC AND WITHOUT A
SERIAL NUMBER, THE GUNS ARE
UNTRACEABLE AND UNDETECTABLE.
ABLE TO PASS THROUGH MOST METAL
DETECTORS.
DETECTORS. >> WELCOME TO THE AGE OF THE
PRINTED MAGAZINE.
PRINTED MAGAZINE. >> 30-YEAR-OLD CODY WILSON IS
THE FACE OF A NEW GUN MOVEMENT.
>> GUN CONTROL IS NOT DEAD.
IT’S UNDEAD.
IT’S UNDEAD. GUN CONTROL IS UNDEAD.
>> THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TOOK
WILSON TO COURT TO STOP HIS
COMPANY FROM POSTING THE
INSTRUCTIONS ONLINE, ARGUING IT
WOULD PUT GUNS IN THE HANDS OF
TERRORISTS.
TERRORISTS. BUT CODY WILSON INSISTED HE HAS
A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO
PUBLISH, AND THE INSTRUCTIONS
WERE ALREADY ONLINE ANYWAY.
IN JUNE, THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION DROPPED THE COURT
FIGHT WITH WILSON.
>> AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A RIGHT
TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, YOU HAVE
A RIGHT TO MAKE THEM.
>> FRED’S 14-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER
JAMIE WAS ONE OF 17 PEOPLE WHOJO
HIGH SCHOOL.
HIGH SCHOOL. >> THIS CHANGES THE SAFETY OF
AMERICANS FOREVER IF THIS IS
ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
>> PLASTIC GUNS, HE FEARS, WILL
BRING MORE GUN VIOLENCE TO A
COUNTRY ALREADY REELING.
>> SOMEONE COULD WALK IN WITH A
GUN AND YOU WON’T KNOW IT.
AIRPLANES, YOU’LL BE FLYING WITH
SOMEONE WITH A GUN, AND YOU
WON’T KNOW IT.
COURTHOUSES, SOMEONE WITH A GUN
AND YOU WON’T KNOW IT.
THAT’S THE RISK.
>> OKAY, LET’S IS A LOOK AT WHAT
THESE 3-D PRINTED GUNS ARE.
CONVENTIONAL GUN MANUFACTURI
REQUIRES A PERMIT AND ALL GUNS
PRODUCED MUST BEAR A SERIAL
NUMBER SO THEY CAN BE TRACED IF
STOLEN OR USED IN A CRIME.
BUT WITH 3-D PRINTING, THERE’S
NO WAY TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS.
COMPONENTS CAN BE PRINTED
WITHOUT ANY OVERSIGHT AND ANY
RECORD KEEPING.
RECORD KEEPING. THE SITE OFFERS FILES THAT ALLOW
USERS TO PRINT PALMER COMPONENTS
ON DEMAND, SO NOW TO BUILD A
GUN, YOU DON’T NEED TO PURCHASE
INDUSTRIAL MACHINE WORKING
EQUIPMENT OR HAVE SPECIAL
EXPERTISE.
EXPERTISE. AMONG THE FIREARM COMPONENTS ON
THE SITE ARE PLANS TO PRINT A
FULL BARETTA M-9 HANDGUN AND THE
LOWER RECEIVER FOR AN AR-15.
YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO PRINT THE
ENTIRE RIFLE DUE TO PRINTER
LIMITATIONS, BUT YOU CAN PRESENT
OUT SEVERAL KEY COMPONENTS THAT
ALLOW THE DESIGNER TO FIRE 600
ROUNDS CONTINUOUSLY IN A TEST
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
THIS IS REAL.
AND MORE CONCERNING TO LAWMAKERS
IS THE LIBERATOR.
THIS WAS THE FIRST WEAPON
DESIGNED BY THE GROUP POSTING
THE PLANS.
THE PLANS. IT’S A SINGLE HP SHOT POLYMER
WEAPON.
WEAPON. THE ONLY NON-3-D PRINTABLE PARTS
ARE THE AMMUNITION AND A SMALL
NAIL THAT’S USED IN PLACE OF A
FIRING PIN.
FIRING PIN. UP HERE.
UP HERE. ALL RIGHT, SOME LAWMAKERS WORRY
THE GUNS RUN AFOUL OF THE
UNDETECTABLE FIREARMS ACT OF
1988.
1988. THE DESIGNER PUT A SMALL METAL
PIECE INTO THE HANDLE OF THE
FIRST LIBERATOR, ALTHOUGH HE
SAID IT WAS OUT OF GOODWILL AND
OTHERS AREN’T OBLIGATED TO DO
SO.
SO. JOINING US NOW IS AVERY
GARDENER, CO-PRESIDENT OF THE
BRADY CAMPAIGN, A GUN CONTROL
ADVOCACY BOOK.
ADVOCACY BOOK. >> SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THIS
IS JUST A NOVELTY ITEM AND
THERE’S NO REASON TO FIGHT BACK
THAT HARD AGAINST IT.
IT’S JUST ONE SIMPLE GUN.
IT’S NOT A SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPON,
BUT IF THIS THING IS CLEARED AND
PEOPLE CAN SUDDENLY PRINT THIS,
WHERE COULD WE QUICKLY DEVOLVE
TO?
TO? >> PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THAT
THIS IS ONLY ABOUT ONE KIND OF
GUN ARE MISTAKEN AND MISGUIDED.
WHAT CODY WILSON HAS SAID IS HE
WANTS TO HAVE A, QUOTE, CAMBREEN
EXPLOSION OF 3-D PRINTABLE GUNS
WITH PLANS FROM HIS SITE.
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> AN EXPLOSION OF DIFFERENT
KINDS OF GUNS, IN FANGT, ALL
TYPES OF FIREARMS.
HE HAS SAID IS HIS GOAL TO HAVE
ON THIS SITE.
SO THERE’S A JOURNALIST WHO A
COUPLE YEARS AGO, 3-D PRINTED AN
AR-15 USING CODY WILSON’S PLANS.
THIS IS SNOTNOT JUST ABOUT ONE S
HANDGUN.
HANDGUN. THIS IS ABOUT WEAPONS OF WAR
MADE IN PEOPLE’S LIVING ROOMS
AND IN THE LIVING ROOMS OF
FOREIGN TERRORISTS ABROAD.
>> WE’RE PUZZLED ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT’S TWEET IN WHICH HE
SAID HE REACHED OUT TO THE NRA.
AS HE REACHED OUT TO YOUR GROUP
OR GROUPS LIKE YOURS?
SEEMS STRANGE THE FIRST OUTREACH
WOULD BE TO THE NRA.
>> THE PRESIDENT TOOK $30
MILLION IN CAMPAIGN
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE NRA AND
HAS BEEN AT THEIR SIDE EVERY
STEP OF THE WAY SO I’M NOT
ENTIRELY SURPRISED BY THAT.
BUT THE GOVERNMENT HAS KNOWN FOR
YEARS MY ORGANIZATION, THE BRADY
CENTER, HAS A KEEN INTEREST IN
THE CASE BECAUSE WE FILED A
BRIEF IN THE FIFTH CIRCUIT AS AN
AMEMEs, AND THEY DID NOT REACH
OUT TO US BEFORE THEY CAME TO
THIS SETTLEMENT.
THIS SETTLEMENT. WE DIDN’T HEAR FROM EITHER THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR THE
DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
AND THAT’S ONE OF THE REALLY
TROUBLING THINGS HERE, IS WHY
THIS SETTLEMENT, WHY NOW?
AS RECENTLY AS APRIL, THE
GOVERNMENT MAINTAINED THAT
PUTTING THESE PLANS ONLINE WAS A
THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND
INTERNATIONAL PEACE.
INTERNATIONAL PEACE. >> SO WHAT --
>> WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CHANGED.
>> WHAT DO YOUR CONTACTS AT THE
STATE DEPARTMENT, I’M SURE YOU
INTERFACE WITH THE GOVERNMENT
ALL THE TIME, WHEN THEY MADE
THIS SETTLEMENT WHICH NOW IS
DONE, IT’S NOT LIKE YOU CAN PUT
THE TOOTHPASTE BACK IN THE TUBE,
DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY RATIONALE?
>> NOT ONLY DID THEY NOT GIVE US
ANY RATIONALE, THEY DIDN’T EVEN
GIVE US A HEADS-UP IT WAS
COMING.
COMING. WE LEARNED ABOUT IT IN THE PRESS
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
THE NEXT DAY, WE SENT A FREEDOM
OF INFORMATION ACT TO THE
GOVERNMENT ASKING ABOUT THE
DOCUMENTS IN THE SETTLEMENT, WHO
WAS INVOLVED IN IT, WHO MADE
THESE DECISIONS, WHAT WERE THE
FACTS THAT CHANGED THAT CAUSED
THE GOVERNMENT TO DO A COMPLETE
180.
180. NOW, THEY HAVEN’T GOTTEN BACK TO
US YET.
US YET. AND IF THEY DON’T GET BACK TO US
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTE,
WE WILL HAVE TO SUE THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION AGAIN TO GET
THESE DOCUMENTS.
THESE DOCUMENTS. WE THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT
TO KNOW, BUT AS YOU SAY, IT’S
PROBABLY GOING TO BE TOO LATE.
>> THE GUY WHO’S DOING THIS,
COREY, HE’S WRAPPED HIMSELF UP
IN THE CONSTITUTION ON THIS ONE.
HE CALLS IT A FIRST AMENDMENT
EXPRESSION OF HIS SECOND
AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
AMENDMENT RIGHTS. NOW, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS
SOMETHING YOU COME UP AGAINST A
GREAT DEAL.
GREAT DEAL. THERE IS A SECOND AMENDMENT THAT
ALLOWS SOME GUN USAGE AND
OWNERSHIP IN THIS COUNTRY.
WHAT’S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT
ARGUMENT?
ARGUMENT? >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE
ABSOLUTELY NO CONCERNS ABOUT
SAFE, RESPONSIBLE AMERICANS
OWNING GUNS AND HAVING THEM
STORED SAFELY IN THEIR HOMES.
I GREW UP WITH GUNS AND I DON’T
HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT MOST
AMERICANS HAVING A GUN IN THE
HOME.
HOME. THE ISSUE COMES WHEN WE’RE
TALKING ABOUT DANGEROUS PEOPLE
HAVING GUNS IN THE HOME, AND
COURTS HAVE HELD FOR GENERATIONS
THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO
CANNOT HAVE A GUN BECAUSE THEY
ARE TOO DANGEROUS.
FELONS AND DOMESTIC ABUSEERS FIT
INTO THAT CATEGORY.
THIS NOTION ALSO THAT THE FIRST
AMENDMENT IS SOME UNFETTERED
RIGHT TO SPEAK ANYTHING ANYTIME
ANYWHERE IS SIMPLY UNTRUE.
WE HAVE LOTS OF LIMITS ON SECOND
AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND ON FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
AMENDMENT RIGHTS. I MEAN, YOU CAN’T SHOUT FIRE IN
A CROWDED THEATER.
THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS WE THINK