AND HOUSE CHAIR ADAM SCHIFF. >>> TODAY BOB MUELLER IS TRYING
TO GAG ROGER STONE.
WE HAVE BRAND NEW VIDEO OF
STONE’S ARREST LAST MONTH THIS
UNUSUAL VIDEO SHOWS ROGER STONE
SURRENDERING IN THE
EARLY-MORNING FBI RAID.
YOU CAN SEE HIM WITH HIS HANDS
UP.
UP. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE’RE
SEEING AN ARREST IN THE MUELLER
PROBE.
PROBE. PLAY OUT ON CAMERA.
SO LET’S LOOK AT THIS EXACT
SCENE.
SCENE. THIS WAS THE MORNING OF JANUARY
25th.
25th. WHAT YOU’RE SEEING THERE ON THE
SCREEN ARE THESE FBI AGENTS,
LONG GUNS DRAWN, THEIR FACES
ONLY BLURRED FOR THE SAKE OF THE
MEDIA COVERAGE.
MEDIA COVERAGE. THIS VIDEO WAS PUT OUT BY ROGER
STONE HIMSELF WHAT WE’RE
WATCHING NOW, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS
SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
IS ROGER STONE’S MORNING.
FRIDAY, JANUARY 25th.
THE INFORMATION WE HAVE SUGGESTS
THIS ALL BEGAN AROUND 6:50 A.M.
IN THE MORNING AND WHAT YOU’RE
SEEING HERE IS NOT SOMETHING
MOST PEOPLE EVER SEE.
IT’S NOT SOMETHING WE’VE SEEN
WITH ANY OTHER PERSON ARRESTED
IN THE MUELLER PROBE.
BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HAS SECURITY
FOOTAGE TO LEAK.
WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE
IS THE AGENT MAKING THAT FIRST
KNOCK.
KNOCK. THE GUNS DRAWN.
ACCORDING TO INFORMATION WE
HAVE, THERE WERE OVER 10
DIFFERENT AGENTS OUTSIDE ROGER
STONE’S FRONT DOOR.
AND THEY KNOCK REPEATEDLY AND
THEY WAIT, THE TWO AGENTS HERE
AT THE VERY FRONT OBVIOUSLY MEAN
BUSINESS, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, IS
THEM WITH THEIR GUNS DRAWN
WAITING TO SEE WHAT COMES OUT
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR.
THEN YOU SEE THE DOOR OPEN AND
YOU SEE THEM ENGAGE MR. STONE.
THIS IS HIM, HIS HANDS GO
IMMEDIATELY UP.
IMMEDIATELY UP. THIS IS WHAT YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO
DO AND COMPLY.
ALTHOUGH WE DON’T HAVE SOUND, WE
UNDERSTAND ENOUGH WAS CONVEYED
TO HIM TO PUT HIS HANDS BEHIND
HIS BACK WHERE YOU SEE ANOTHER
AGENT, THE THIRD AGENT WE CAN
SEE IN THE VIDEO CUFFS MR.
STONE.
STONE. MOVES THE DOOR THIS IS ANOTHER
PART OF THE VIDEO WE’RE GETTING
FOR THE FIRST TIME OUT IN FRONT.
THIS IS AFTER MR. STONE HAS
COMPLIED AND HAS BEEN PUT UNDER
ARREST.
ARREST. AND IS OF COURSE BEING HELD
THERE WITH HIS HANDS BEHIND HIS
BACK.
BACK. PRETTY SOON AFTER THIS WE’RE
GOING TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE THAT
WAS INTERESTING HERE.
THAT GOES TO -- WHERE WE ARE
BETWEEN REALITY AND PRODUCTION.
REALITY IS THIS WAS A VERY REAL
RAID WITH REAL GUNS AND REAL
AGENTS AND A REAL PERSON, WHO
LIKE ANYONE WOULDN’T WANT TO
WAKE UP THIS WAY.
BUT IT ALSO IS A PRODUCTION.
WE HAVE THIS VIDEO BECAUSE MR.
STONE HAS LEAKED IT TO SINCLAIR
BROADCASTING GROUP.
BROADCASTING GROUP. A CONSERVATIVE BROADCASTING CON
DPLOM RAT.
DPLOM RAT. AND SOON YOU’LL SEE HIM COME OUT
WEARING A T-SHIRT DESIGNED FOR
PUBLIC CONSUMPTION.
PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. A T-SHIRT THAT SAYS "ROGER STONE
DID NOTHING WRONG.
DGS
DGS DGS.
DGS. >> THERE YOU SEE HIM WEARING THE
TRADITIONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE’VE
SEEN HOW MUELLER’S TEAM OPERATES
WHEN THEY GO IN LAWFULLY.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY HAD A
SEALED ARREST WARRANT FROM THE
DAY BEFORE TO DEAL WITH A TARGET
IN THEIR PROBE.
AND THE VIDEO YOU’RE LOOKING AT
HERE THAT WE THINK IS QUITE
EXTRAORDINARY IS ONLY OUT
BECAUSE ROGER STONE HAS RELEASED
IT.
IT. WHY ARE WE SEEING IT?
THIS IS PART OF ROGER STONE’S
ATTEMPT TO BUILD ON THE
CRITICISM OF HOW AGENTS TREATED
HIM.
HIM. THIS IS WHAT I’LL SAY ABOUT
THAT.
THAT. YOU CAN ASSESS WITH YOUR OWN
EYES AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT
STONE HAS BEEN SAYING.
HE LIKENED HIMSELF TO A SUSPECT
ROUGHED UP ON PAR WITH DECEASED
OSAMA BIN LADEN.
AND THE TACTICS THAT YOU JUST
SAW, HE SAYS THEY ARE LIKE NAZI
SECRET POLICE.
SECRET POLICE. >> TO STORM MY HOUSE WITH A
GREATER FORCE THAN WAS USED TO
TAKE DOWN BIN LADEN, OR EL CHAPO
OR PABLO ESCOBAR, TO TERRORIZE
MY WIFE AND MY DOGS, IT’S
UNCONSCIONABLE.
UNCONSCIONABLE. THIS WAS AN EGREGIOUS OVERREACH
BY MR. MUELLER.
THESE ARE GESTAPO TACTICS.
>> NOW THE VIDEO IS COMING OUT
AS TODAY ROGER STONE IS FIGHTING
A POSSIBLE GAG ORDER FROM A
JUDGE.
JUDGE. THE MUELLER TEAM SEEKING ONE AND
STONE’S LAWYER SAYING THIS WOULD
BE AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL STONE’S
RIGHT TO WORK AND PURSUE
LIVELIHOOD AND THEIR BRIEF CITES
KIM KARDASHIAN ARGUING THAT
STONE IS NOT NEARLY AS POPULAR
OR AS BIG AN ORDER AND SAYING A
GAG WOULD SILENCE THEIR CLIENT’S
VOICE, WE’VE REPORTED BEFORE
THAT ROGER STONE HAS A POINT
WHEN IT COMES TO FREEDOM OF
SPEECH.
SPEECH. BUT THEN THERE IS ANOTHER FILING
WAYANT TO SHOW YOU TODAY.
AS STONE IS IN THE NEWS, HE
MAKES A BROADER CLAIM THAT HIS
CASE IS NOW IN HIS VIEW NOT EVEN
QUOTE RELATED TO THOSE DOZEN
RUSSIANS THAT MUELLER INDICTED
FOR HACKING DEMOCRATS.
STONE TRYING TO FORCE BOB
MUELLER INTO SOME SORT OF
RESPONSE, PERHAPS TO REVEAL MORE
OF HIS HAND AND TRYING TO GET
THE JUDGE THROWN OFF THIS CASE.
ALL OF THIS AS WE SEE WHAT IT
LOOKS LIKE WHEN BOB MUELLER
SENDS AGENTS TO YOUR DOOR.
WE HAVE A LOT ON THE SHOW
TONIGHT.
TONIGHT. INCLUDING NEIL ACCOUNTCUTSHAW JO
ME AND I START WITH MAYA WILEY.
DO THEY LOOK LIKE NORMAL TO YOU,
OR DO YOU SEE ANYTHING WRONG
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT’S APPROACH
AT THE DOOR IN.
>> THIS WAS A TEXTBOOK
NONEVENTFUL ARREST AND WHAT I
MEAN BY THAT, WHAT IS EVENTFUL
IS ONLY OBVIOUSLY THAT THEY
THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME
POSSIBILITY OF VIOLENCE AND
THAT’S WHY THEY HAD THE GUNS.
WHY, WE DON’T KNOW.
BUT EVERYTHING THEY DID FROM
WALKING, YOU SEE THEY HAVE THEIR
GUNS.
GUNS. THEY’RE READY TO USE THEM IF
THEY NEED THEM.
THEY KNOCK ON THE DOOR.
YOU SEE OTHER AGENTS STANDING
FARTHER BACK WHO DO NOT APPEAR
TO HAVE THEIR GUNS DRAWN.
THEY’RE BEING PROTECTED BY THE
TWO AGENTS WHO ARE IN THE FRONT
IN CASE THERE ARE ANY SHOTS
FIRED BY SOMEONE.
YOU SEE THEM KNOCK ON THE DOOR.
THEN IT’S VERY PIECEFUL.
WE KNOW FROM ONE OF THE
JOURNALISTS, FROM CNN, WHO
OVERHEARD AND WITNESSED THIS
PART OF THE VIDEO.
THAT THE EXCHANGE BETWEEN THE
AGENTS AND ROGER STONE SOUNDED
CORDIAL THAT WAS THE DESCRIPTION
OF A WITNESS WHO WAS A
JOURNALIST.
JOURNALIST. SO ALL WE’RE SEEING HERE IS A
STRAIGHTFORWARD NONEVENTFUL
STRAIGHTFORWARD NONEVENTFUL ARREST.
ARREST. >> AND THAT GOES ON BOTH SIDES.
THE POLICE WERE ABLE IN THIS
CASE FEDERAL POLICE, FBI WERE
ABLE TO DISCHARGE THEIR DUTIES
WITHOUT FORCE.
WITHOUT FORCE. AND MR. STONE DID WHAT YOU ARE
SUPPOSED TO DO, WHETHER YOU
THINK YOUR ARREST IS FAIR OR
NOT.
NOT. EVERYONE HAS AN OBLIGATION IN
THIS COUNTRY TO COMPLY AND HE
DID, HE PUT HIS HANDS UP AND HE
COMPLIED IN THIS SITUATION.
PUT THIS AGAINST THE FIGHT IN
COURT TODAY.
COURT TODAY. BOB MUELLER TRYING TO PARTIALLY
GAG ROGER STONE, ROGER STONE
TRYING TO GET THE JUDGE THROWN
OFF THE CASE AND HE’S DOING THIS
THING I MENTIONED OF SAYING,
THIS ISN’T RELATED TO THE
RUSSIAN INDICTMENT AT ALL.
>> I FIND THIS FASCINATING.
BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL IN THAT
VIDEO, YOU SEE HOW ROGER STONE
USES THE MEDIA TO ADVANCE HIS
NARRATIVE THAT WILL ADVANTAGE
HIS COURT CASE.
BECAUSE HE’S WEARING HIS
T-SHIRT, RIGHT?
T-SHIRT, RIGHT? AND BY THE WAY, THEY USE THE
TWITTER, TWITTER AND KIM
KARDASHIAN STATISTIC TO SUGGEST
THAT SOMEHOW THEY’RE GOING TO
DENY HIM A LIVELIHOOD AND GAG
HIM.
HIM. AND I AGREE WITH YOU FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE EXTREMELY
IMPORTANT.
IMPORTANT. THE JUDGE MADE VERY CLEAR THAT
IF SHE WERE GAGGING, IT WOULD BE
VERY NARROWLY AND SPECIFICALLY
TO THE CASE ITSELF.
AND ANYTHING THAT WOULD
MATERIALLY MAKE THE POSSIBILITY
OF THE TRIAL TO BE UNFAIR.
INCLUDING FOR HIM.
BY THE WAY.
BECAUSE IT WOULD GAG BOTH SIDES.
HE DOESN’T WANT TO BE GAGGED
BECAUSE HE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO
USE THE MEDIA.
THIS IS THE APPEARANCE THAT HE’S
CREATING.
CREATING. HE WANTS TO USE THE MEDIA.
HE IS A PERSON WHO HAS ALWAYS
USED THE MEDIA.
TO DRIVE A NARRATIVE THAT
ADVANCES WHATEVER OUTCOME HE
WANTS AND THAT’S EXACTLY ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT A JUDGE HAS TO
WORRY ABOUT.
WORRY ABOUT. >> HE WANTS TO USE THIS
POTENTIALLY TO IMPACT THE CASE
WHICH IS WITH THE JUDGE’S
CONCERN COMES IN I’VE REPORTED
ON THE FACT THAT THERE’S
PRECEDENTS THAT GOES THE OTHER
WAY, THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO
MR. STONE.
MR. STONE. WHATEVER YOU THINK HE DID.
WE DON’T TRY TO BE PETTY OR
MESSY ON THIS SHOW.
SO I DON’T WANT TO BE PETTY.
WE HAVE TO NOTE THAT WHILE HE
INVOKES SS THAT HE DOESN’T HAVE
TWITTER ACCOUNT.
TWITTER ACCOUNT. HE WAS KICKED OFF OF TWITTER FOR
VIOLATING THEIR TERMS FOR THINGS
HE SAID ABOUT PEOPLE.
>> INCLUDING SAYING ABOUT DON
LEMON THAT HE SHOULD BE
HUMILIATED, MOCKED AND PUNISHED,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? NOW HE’S SAYING THIS ABOUT A
BLACK MAN IN AMERICA, BY THE WAY
AT A TIME WHEN HATE CRIMES ARE
ON THE RISE.
THIS WAS NOT A A SMALL THING
THAT HE WAS PULLED OFF TWITTER.
THE OTHER THING, THERE IS A
TWITTER ACCOUNT WITH ROGER
STONE’S NAME, LAST I SAW.
IT WAS STILL UP.
THAT HAD 20,000 FOLLOWERS.
THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF TWITTER
FOLLOWERS FOR ANYONE IS 707.
TO ARGUE THAT HE DOESN’T HAVE
ANY KIND OF PUBLIC PRESENCE
BECAUSE HE’S NOT ON PAR WITH THE
KIM KARDASHIAN, IS NOT THE
STANDARD THAT JUDGE JACKSON HAS
TO WORRY ABOUT.
SHE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT A JURY
POLL THAT SHE’S PULLING FROM
WASHINGTON, D.C., THAT’S FAIRLY
SMALL GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
AND ANY NEWS CAN INFLUENCE THAT
POOL.
POOL. BECAUSE NATIONAL NEWS IS
NATIONAL NEWS AND ANYONE CAN
CONSUME IT.
CONSUME IT. I THINK THE TWITTER REFERENCE
WAS THE LEGAL EQUIVALENT OF THE
T-SHIRT.
T-SHIRT. IT WAS FOR EVERYONE OUTSIDE THE
COURTROOM OTHER THAN PERHAPS THE
JUDGE.
JUDGE. THE OTHER BIG STORY, THE
EXPLOSIVE HEARING ON THE HILL.
THIS STORY IS IMPORTANT, IT’S
ALL ABOUT MUELLER’S BOSS.
TRUMP’S ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL,
MATT WHITAKER.
MATT WHITAKER. THERE WAS A BARRAGE OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
MUELLER THAT HE MAY HAVE HAD
WITH TRUMP AND WHETHER HE WOULD
OPEN UP ABOUT THEM.
DEMOCRATS ON THE COMMITTEE
PRESSED HIM ON THE
CONVERSATIONS, AS WELL AS, WHAT
ELSE DID HE TALK TO THE INNER
CIRCLE OR THE TRUMP FAMILY ABOUT
BEFORE HE TOOK ON THIS POST OF
ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL.
>> YES OR NO, AT ANY POINT SINCE
THAT BRIEFING HAVE YOU
COMMUNICATED ANY INFORMATION YOU
LEARNED IN THAT BRIEFING TO
PRESIDENT TRUMP?
PRESIDENT TRUMP? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW THAT
THERE IS A -- UNIQUE --
>> IT’S A YES-OR-NO QUESTION.
>> HAVE YOU EVER ATTEMPTED TO
USE ANY INTERMEDIARIES TO GET
INFORMATION TO THE PRESIDENT OR
OTHERS ON HIS STAFF?
>> CONGRESSWOMAN --
>> IT’S A YES OR NO.
PLEASE, MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.
AND I’VE WAITED A LONG TIME.
IT’S A YES OR NO.
>> HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT WHAT YOU LEARNED?
THAT’S A YES OR A NO.
>> CONGRESSMAN, I SPEND ALL DAY
EVERY DAY TALKING --
>> MR. WHITAKER, MY QUESTION IS
VERY SPECIFIC.
VERY SPECIFIC. >> THAT’S WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE UP
AND DOWN THE HEARING.
DEMOCRATS HAMMERING HIM.
THINGS GOT A LITTLE
UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN HE TRIED SOME
DEFLECTION.
DEFLECTION. >> IN YOUR CAPACITY AS ACTING
ATTORNEY GENERAL, HAVE YOU EVER
BEEN ASKED TO APPROVE ANY
REQUEST OR ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY
THE SPECIAL COUNSEL?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I SEE THAT YOUR
FIVE MINUTES IS UP, SO -- I’M --
>> I’M SORRY, I DON’T KNOW IF
YOUR TIME HAS BEEN RESTORED OR
NOT.
NOT. >> MR. ATTORNEY GENERAL, WE’RE
NOT JOKING HERE.
AND YOUR HUMOR IS NOT
ACCEPTABLE.
ACCEPTABLE. >> I WANT TO BRING IN KNEEL
KOCH, THE FORMER SOLICITOR
GENERAL AND WROTE THE RULES
GOVERNING THE PROBE.
WHAT DID WE LEARN TODAY THROUGH
THIS HEARING.
THIS HEARING. THE FIRST TIME THAT MATT
WHITAKER HAS BEEN UNDER OATH IN
THIS ROLE.
THIS ROLE. >> THE PREPOSTEROUSNESS OF THIS
MAN BEING THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
OF THE UNITED STATES.
WHEN YOU SAW SOMEONE WHO IS SO
UNQUALIFIED, HE SHOULDN’T BE THE
ATTORNEY GENERAL OF 30 ROCK, 3
ROCK, A 7th GRADER WOULD HAVE
DONE A BETTER JOB, A MORE
RESPECTFUL JOB THAN WHAT HE DID.
IT WAS ARROGANT, IT WAS
IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT REALLY
CALLS INTO QUESTION THE
PRESIDENT’S JUDGMENT FOR PUTTING
THIS MAN AT THE HEAD OF THE
HALLOWED DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,
WHERE BOTH OF US WORKED.
I DID TWO TOURS THERE, AND YOU
KNOW, I WOULD BE, IF SOMEONE
ASKED ME TO BE ACTING ATTORNEY
GENERAL, I WOULD BE LIKE NO, I
DON’T THINK I’M READY.
LITERALLY ANYONE IS READY
COMPARED TO THIS GUY, IT WAS A
GRAVE, GRAVE THING.
THAT’S NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER
TWO, INTERFERENCE, ALL HE SAID
OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS, I
DIDN’T INTERFERE WITH MUELLER.
BUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, THEY
WENT AFTER HIM AND SAID WHAT
ABOUT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT
INVESTIGATION?
INVESTIGATION? THAT’S THE ONE IN WHICH THE
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN DIRECTLY
IMPLICATED IN FEDERAL FELONIES.
NEVER ONCE AFTER MANY QUESTIONS
ARE ASKED DID HE EVER SAY I
DIDN’T INTERFERE, I LET THAT ONE
GO.
GO. >> I HATE TO ASK A QUESTION LIKE
THIS TO SOMEONE AS ESTEEMED AS
YOURSELF.
YOURSELF. BUT DIDN’T HE ALSO AT TIMES SEEM
TO BE LEANING IN TO BEING QUOTE
A JERK?
A JERK? >> WELL I DON’T WANT TO
CHARACTERIZE THE MOTIVATION.
BUT IT DID FEEL LIKE THE ONE
THING THAT WAS GOING ON THERE
WAS HE WAS PLAYING FOR AN
AUDIENCE OF ONE.
AND THAT AUDIENCE IS DONALD
TRUMP.
TRUMP. WHAT HE’S TRYING TO DO, ARI, IT
SEEMS TO ME IS GET ANOTHER JOB
AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
MAYBE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> THAT’S INTERESTING, YOU’RE
SAYING PART OF THE REASON HE
LOOKED SO OUT OF STEP WITH
EVERYTHING IS THAT HE WAS
ACCORDING TO MANY, WELL OUT OF
HIS LEAGUE WITH THIS BIG JOB.
SO GOING BACK TO BEING NUMBER 3
OR SOMETHING WOULD BE A GOOD
THING FOR HIM AND TRUMP MIGHT
HELP HIM HOLD ON TO THAT.
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. >> I KNEW NEIL WAS NOT GOING TO
LEAN INTO A PERSONAL
CHARACTERIZATION OF THIS
INDIVIDUAL BUT IT STUCK OUT TO
ME, CONTRAST TO BILL BARR,
THERE’S A WIDE DIFFERENCE IN THE
WAY MR. BARR CHARACTERIZES THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL RULES.
I WAS SITTING IN THE ROOM LIKE
MANY OTHER PEOPLE COVERING IT
AND MR. BARR CONDUCTED HIMSELVES
AT ALL TIMES PROFESSIONALLY.
CLEARLY.
CLEARLY. YOU KNOW, NORMALLY, YOU MIGHT
SAY.
SAY. >> AND WAS WILLING TO SAY THAT
THE MUELLER PROBE WAS NOT A
WITCH HUNT.
WITCH HUNT. CHRISTOPHER WRAY HAS SAID IT AND
WILLIAM BARR SAID IT.
AND TODAY, WE DID NOT HEAR THOSE
WORDS.
WORDS. >> FOR YOUR ANALYSIS, LET’S PLAY
THAT AND GET YOU TO BUILD ON
THAT POINT.
THAT POINT. FOR THE VIEWERS, YOU WATCHED
THAT.
THAT. NOT EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE.
HERE WAS THAT MOMENT.
>> ARE YOU OVERSEEING A WITCH
HUNT?
HUNT? >> IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE FOR
ME TO TALK ABOUT AN ONGOING
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. >> DO YOU AGREE WITH THE
PRESIDENT’S STATEMENT THAT THE
RUSSIA INVESTIGATION IS A WITCH
HUNT?
HUNT? >> AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY,
CONGRESSMAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE
INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO COMMENT
ABOUT AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
>> SO HERE WE HAVE TO YOUR POINT
ARI, WILLIAM BARR, ABSOLUTELY
DIRECTLY SAYING THIS IS NOT A
WITCH HUNT.
WITCH HUNT. ROBERT MUELLER IS A PERSON OF
THE HIGHEST INTEGRITY.
HE IS SOMEONE I KNOW.
HE DID EVERYTHING TO REINFORCE
THE INTEGRITY OF THE INSTITUTION
AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. EVEN THOUGH HE HAD THOSE
STATEMENTS THAT SOME FIND
TROUBLING.
TROUBLING. AND WE COULDN’T EVEN GET THAT
TODAY FROM MR. WHITAKER.
THE OTHER THING HE DID, THAT I
ALSO FIND INCREDIBLY PROBLEMATIC
IS HE FED THIS SORT OF SUBTEXT
OF A CONSPIRACY ON THE ROGER
STONE ARREST.
STONE ARREST. BECAUSE OF THE ISSUE ABOUT HOW
DID THE JOURNALISTS KNOW TO BE
OUTSIDE OF ROGER STONE’S HOME
WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED.
WE KNOW FROM THE JOURNALIST,
THEY SAID -- LOOK IF THEY HAD A
SOURCE, THEY WOULD SAY WE HAD A
SOURCE, WE WON’T DIVULGE WHAT
OUR SOURCE WAS.
WHAT THEY SAID IS WE’VE BEEN
PAYING ATTENTION, EVERYONE KNOWS
ROGER STONE MIGHT GET INDICTED.
WE GOT LUCKY.
YET HE ALLOWED, SOMEONE WHO CAN
PICK UP THE PHONE AND GET AN
ANSWER TO THE QUESTION ABOUT
WHETHER THERE WERE ANY LEAKS OUT
OF HIS SHOP, BECAUSE IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN A HUGE VIOLATION FOR
THAT TO HAVE HAPPENED.
WITH THE SEALED INDICTMENT AND
YET --
YET -- >> WHAT I WOULD SAY IN MAYBE A
LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK ON MAYA.
PSYCHOLOGISTS TALK ABOUT FRAMING
EFFECTS, THE IDEA THAT SOMETIMES
YOU SHOW SOMEONE AN EXTREME
OPTION AND IT MAKES THE MIDDLE
ONE LOOK GOOD.
REAL ESTATE AGENTS WILL SHOW YOU
A DUMPY HOUSE AND THE OTHER ONE
LOOKS BETTER.
LOOKS BETTER. >> THIS IS HOW WE BOOK FALL-BACK
FRIDAY.
FRIDAY. >> I’M WORRIED ABOUT WHITAKER
AND BARR HERE.
WHITAKER IS SO ATROCIOUS THAT BY
CONTRAST ANYONE IS GOING TO LOOK
BETTER INCLUDING THIS COFFEE
CUP.
CUP. BUT I THINK THE POINT ABOUT BARR
DID A BETTER JOB, A MORE
PROFESSIONAL JOB.
PROFESSIONAL JOB. MAKE NO MISTAKE, HE’S VERY
DANGEROUS WHEN IT COMES TO
PROTECTING THE INVESTIGATION.
NOT THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION,
WHICH HE DID SAY SOME GOOD
THINGS ABOUT.
THINGS ABOUT. BUT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT