>>> THE HOUSE SECT COMMITTEE IS PREPARING FOR ITS NEXT ROUND
OF HEARINGS AND A REPORT ON ITS FINDINGS.
FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, MEMBERS HAVE BEEN PIECING TOGETHER
TESTIMONY FROM OVER A THOUSAND WITNESSES, ALONG WITH VIDEOS,
TEXTS, E-MAILS, AND OTHER DOCUMENTS.
THE COMMITTEE'S CHAIRMAN SAYS THE GOAL IS TO RESTART HEARINGS
ON SEPTEMBER 28th. JOINING ME NOW IS COMMITTEE
MEMBER, JAMIE RASKIN, DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN FROM MARYLAND.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON, CONGRESSMAN.
SO LET'S LOOK AHEAD NOW TO THAT NEXT HEARING AT THE END OF THIS
MONTH. CAN YOU GIVE US ANYMORE
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE CAN EXPECT TO LEARN?
NEW TESTIMONY, NEW WITNESSES, ANY STUNNING NEW INFORMATION?
GIVE US A GLIMPSE. >> WELL, THE MEETING IS AT LEAST
PROVISIONALLY SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 28th AND WE'RE HOPING
WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE HEARING ON THE 28th OF SEPTEMBER.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HEARING WHERE I HOPE THAT WE WILL BE
ABLE TO COMPLETE THE STORY SO THAT AMERICA HAS A COMPREHENSIVE
UNDERSTANDING OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S EFFORTS TO OVERTHROW
THE 2020 ELECTION AND WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THAT IN ITS COMPLETE,
HISTORICAL, AND POLITICAL CONTEXT AND WE'RE ABLE TO
UNDERSTAND THE COORDINATION OF THE INSIDE POLITICAL COUP WITH
THE OUTDOOR VIOLENT INSURRECTION THAT CAME INDOORS AND OVERRAN
BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, DRIVING US OUT OF OUR CHAMBERS
AND DROVE THE VICE PRESIDENT OUT OF THE CAPITOL.
SO, WE'RE HOPING TO PULL THE WHOLE THING TOGETHER AND WE HAVE
NEW INFORMATION ABOUT DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF OUR INVESTIGATION.
>> WHAT ASPECTS? >> WELL, I THINK WE'RE FILLING
IN A LOT OF GAPS, THINGS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, LEFT BEFORE
STILL OPEN. AND SOME NEW THINGS HAVE OPENED
UP, OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A MYSTERY OF
THESE MANY MISSING TEXTS FROM THE SECRET SERVICE.
WE WANT TO KNOW HOW THOSE TEXTS CAME TO BE MISSING.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT
WAS IN THOSE TEXTS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN FIND AND SEE HOW
REVEALING THEY ARE IN A CORROBORATING WAY, OF THE BASIC
ELEMENTS OF THE STORY THAT WE SET FORTH BEFORE.
>> SO, HAVE YOU LEARNED ANYTHING MORE FROM THOSE TEXTS, IN TERMS
OF WHAT HAS BEEN RECOVERED, NOT RECOVERED?
>> IN GENERAL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS, WITHOUT GOING INTO
SPECIFIC PIECE OF EVIDENCE. WE'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE SINCE
WE, YOU KNOW, TOOK OUR BREAK SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
WE'RE ABLE TO FILL IN A LOT MORE ABOUT THE INTENTIONALITY WITH
WHICH THE EVENTS TOOK PLACE. WE'RE ABLE TO FILL IN AL MORE
ABOUT THE MOVEMENT OF DIFFERENT ACTORS, AND WE'RE ABLE TO FILL
IN MORE ABOUT WHAT ACTUALLY WENT DOWN ON JANUARY 6th ITSELF.
SO, I THINK PEOPLE WHO HAVE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN THIS
UNPRECEDENTED AND OBVIOUSLY HISTORIC EVENT OF AN ASSAULT ON
AN AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND AN ATTEMPT BY A
SITTING PRESIDENT WHO LOST AN ELECTION TO SEIZE THE
PRESIDENCY, I THINK WILL FIND THE REMAINING DETAILS THAT HAVE
BEEN UNEARTHED VERY INSTRUCTIVE, TO COMPLETE THE PICTURE.
I'M ALSO VERY INTERESTED IN AMERICA UNDERSTANDING TO WHAT
EXTENT THE VARIOUS KIND OF THREATS WE SAW UNFOLD ON JANUARY
6th STILL OUT THERE. I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND TO
WHAT EXTENT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY IS STILL UNDER ATTACK, AND TO
WHAT EXTENT OUR ELECTIONS ARE STILL VULNERABLE TO
INSURRECTION, COUP, POLITICAL VIOLENCE, AND SABOTAGE.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO, WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU IS THAT
THIS WILL ROUND OUT THE PICTURE THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS BEEN
PUTTING FORWARD FOR MANY MONTHS NOW.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THERE IS STILL KEY TESTIMONY AND
DOCUMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS NOT RECEIVED.
I KNOW YOU'RE STILL TALKING TO NEWT GINGRICH, AS WELL AS JENNY
THOMAS, THE WIFE OF JUSTICE THOMAS.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT END AND THE COMMITTEE MOVES INTO JUST
GETTING ITS FINAL REPORT OUT? >> AS YOU'VE MENTIONED, WE'VE
TALKED TO MORE THAN A THOUSAND PEOPLE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT TENS OF THOUSANDS, PERHAPS HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF DOCUMENTS AT THIS POINT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S EVER BEEN A CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATION OF THIS BREATHTAKING SCOPE AND
COMPREHENSIVENESS. AND YET, STILL, IT IS OOH VERY
STRONG FIRST DRAFT OF HISTORY AND UNDOUBTEDLY THERE ARE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN CONCEALING THINGS AND PEOPLE NOT COMING FORWARD.
AND, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GO WITH ALL OF THE EVIDENCE WE'VE GOT.
BUT WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE BASIC
ELEMENTS OF THE MULTIPLE OFFENSES AGAINST AMERICAN
DEMOCRACY THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE COURSE OF THESE EVENTS.
>> OKAY, BUT BOTTOM LINE IS, AS IT STANDS NOW, DO YOU EXPECT TO
SPEAK WITH NEWT GINGRICH OR GINNY THOMAS.
AND I SHOULD ALSO PUT IN THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, MIKE
PENCE, AS WELL. JUST HELP US GET SOME CLARITY ON
THAT. >> WELL, NO, I APPRECIATE THE
INTEREST. AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE NOT
COMMENTED ON SPECIFIC WITNESSES WHO ARE COMING IN.
WE DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH THAT PROCESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN AND
REMAIN DEEPLY INTERESTED IN THE TESTIMONY OF ANYONE WHO HAS
RELEVANT INFORMATION THAT IS MATERIAL TO ALL OF THE PRINCIPLE
COMPONENTS OF THIS ASSAULT ON AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL
DEMOCRACY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN AT THIS
LATE DATE, I WOULD SAY, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE
BEEN RESTING WHERE THEIR CONSCIENCE OR WHO BELIEVE THEY
MAY BE SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T REALIZE BEFORE WAS
RELEVANT, THEN, YOUNG, BRING IT IN.
WE CAN OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SCREEN OUT PEOPLE WHO ARE
ENGAGED IN, YOU KNOW, FRIVOLOUS SUBMISSIONS.
BUT, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART, AND
CERTAINLY WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE BWHO
HAVE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE
RECOGNIZING THE RELEVANCE OF SOMETHING THEY HAVE NOT
UNDERSTOOD BEFORE, COME ON IN, BRING IT IN.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL TRUTH OUT TO
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. TO THE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRACY AND
THE PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHO ARE --
>> I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITNESSES COMING UP, BUT
NEWT GINGRICH, GINNY THOMAS, MIKE PENCE, THE COMMITTEE HAS
BEEN VERY OPEN, YOU KNOW, RELEASING LETTERS TO THE PUBLIC,
SAYING THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO THAT'S WHY I THINK IT IS FAIR TO ASK FOR AN UPDATE ON WHERE
THINGS STAND THERE. >> I CAN'T TELL YOU, BECAUSE I
DON'T KNOW THE UP TO THE MINUTE UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.
I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE IN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE
ALWAYS DELICATE, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND THEY
SHOULD UNDERSTAND, THEY HAVE A LAWYER THERE, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY
THINK THEY ARE INCRIMINATING THEMSELVES IN SOME WAY, THEY CAN
ASSERT THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. WE RESPECT THAT.
BUT IN GENERAL, EVERYBODY OWES THE CONGRESS HIS OR HER TRUTHFUL
TESTIMONY ABOUT WHAT TOOK PLACE. >> ALL RIGHT.
CONGRESSMAN JAMIE RASKIN, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
>> YOU BET. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.