>> I NEED TO SEE IT, JOY.
>> I EXPECTING A LIKE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ARI.
APPRECIATE IT.
>>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
WE BEGIN "REIDOUT" WITH A
FRAGILE DEMOCRACY AND TATTERED
REPUTATION AROUND THE WORLD.
TODAY PRESIDENT BIDEN CONTINUED
HIS FIRST TRIP ABROAD HOLDING A
FACE-TO-MEETING WITH PRESIDENT
BORIS JOHNSON EVEN AS PRESIDENT
BIDEN WORKS TO RESTORE AMERICAS
IMAGE AFTER FOUR YEARS OF THE
DISGRACE TWICE IMPEACHED FORMER
PRESIDENT, HE DOES SO IN THE
FACE OF A WORLD THAT HAS FRANKLY
LOST FAITH IN OUR DEMOCRACY HERE
AT HOME.
A NEW PEW RESEARCH CENTER REPORT
ON GLOBAL ATTITUDE SHOWED ONLY
17% OF RESPONDENTS FROM 16
NATIONS SAID DEMOCRACY IN THE
UNITED STATES IS A GOOD EXAMPLE
FOR OTHER COUNTRIES TO FOLLOW.
AND 57% SAID IT USED TO BE A
GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT HAS NOT BEEN
IN RECENT YEARS.
ANOTHER 23% SAID IT NEVER WAS A
GOOD EXAMPLE AT ALL.
THATS NOT EXACTLY SURPRISING,
GIVEN THAT ONE OF OUR TWO MAJOR
PARTIES IN THE UNITED STATES,
THE REPUBLICANS, HAVE BECOME A
LEADING FORCE AGAINST DEMOCRACY.
MAGA CHEERLEADERS TAKING TURNS
QUESTIONING FBI DIRECTOR CHRIS
WRAY TODAY IN A HOUSE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE HEARS AND WHILE
DEMOCRATS PRESSED WRAY ON THE
JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION, A
BLATANT ATTEMPT AT DESTROYING
OUR DEMOCRACY, THE TOP RB, JIM
JORDAN USED HIS TIME TO WHINE
ABOUT CANCEL CULTURE AND
DISGRACE THE EX-PRESIDENTS
DISGRACED TV LAWYER RUDY
GUILIANI WHILE MATT GAETZ,
REMAINS ON THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE, DESPITE BEING
INVESTIGATED FOR ALLEGED SEX
TRAFFICKING OF A TEENAGER BY THE
FBI HO SHOULD PROBABLY BE
ANSWERING QUESTIONS WHAT ROLE HE
PLAYED IN WHIPPING UP THE
INSURRECTION.
INSTEAD GOT TO QUESTION THE FBI
DIRECTOR, TOO.
OF COURSE, ITS HARDLY
SURPRISING THAT THE REPUBLICANS
ON THE COMMITTEE WOULD AVOID
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
INSURRECTION, GIVEN THAT ANOTHER
MEMBER, ARIZONA REPUBLICAN ANDY
BIGGS WAS NAMED BY THE ORGANIZER
OF THE RALLY THAT PRECEDED THE
SIEGE.
ALEXANDER, ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED PLAN IT.
HELPED PLAN IT.
REMAINS ON THE RUN AND GOEMGOMMA
>> JANUARY 5th TALKING TO
CAPITOL POLICE OFFICERS AND
SAID, YOU KNOW, LETS FACE IT.
MOST OF THE CONSERVATIVES THAT
COME, THEY DONT HAVE ANY
INTENTION OF BEING VIOLENT, AND
THEY SAID, WELL, WEVE BEEN
BRIEFED TODAY THAT THERES A
GOOD BIT OF, I UNDERSTOOD ONLINE
ACTIVITY THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE
THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING THAT
HATE TRUMP BUT THEYRE GOING TO
DRESS UP IN RED, MAGA TRUMP
PARAPHERNALIA TO BLEND IN AND
CREATE TROUBLE.
>> OKAY.
REMARKABLY, LOUIS GOMER WAS A
JUDGE IN TEXAS IN HIS FORMER
LIFE, BUT IF THAT SCENARIO HE
CLAIMS, IF ITS TRUE, PERHAPS HE
SHOULD BE CALLED AS THE WITNESS,
IF THERE EVER HAD A HOUSE XLECT
COMMITTEE INVESTIGATION OF THE
INSURRECTION.
DONT FORGET A JOINT REPORT BY
TWO SENATE COMMITTEES MADE CLEAR
CAPITOL POLICE LEADERSHIP KNEW
TRUMP SUPPORTERS WERE PLANNING
TO BREACH THE CAPITOL.
IN AN INTERVIEW WITH PBS, SUING
THE FORMER PRESIDENT FOR
INCITING THE MOB, GAVE A
FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF WHAT HE
ENDURED THAT DAY.
>> LOOKED LIKE A SORT OF, A
HOARD OF ZOMBIES, PEOPLE FAR AS
YOU CAN SEE JUST SALIVATING I
WAS CALLED [ BLEEP ], I WAS
CALLED A TRAITOR.
I WAS CALLED YOU KNOW, VARIOUS
EPITHETS.
>> IN FACT, WHAT LOUIS GOMER
CLAIMS IS TRUE, THAT IT WAS
ANTIFA OR ZOMBIES OR POLTERGEIST
OR ALIENS, THE REAL CULPRITS ON
JANUARY 6th, A BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION COULD HAVE GOTTEN TO
BOTTOM OF THAT.
GOMER LIKE MOST REPUBLICANS
VOTED AGAINST IT.
INSTEAD HE GOT TO GRILL DIRECTOR
WRAY ON HOW HE CHARACTERIZED THE
ATTACK.
>> YOU WERE CAREFUL TO NOTE THAT
MOST OF THE PROTESTERS WHO WERE
LEFT LAST SUMMER WERE BASICALLY
PEACEFUL, BUT YOU HAVENT SAID
THAT ABOUT THE 100,000, 200,000
PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP ON JANUARY
6th.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE
ACTUALLY CAME IN TO THE CAPITOL
ON JANUARY 6th THAT WERE
UNAUTHORIZED?
>> I DONT HAVE AN EXACT NUMBER.
I KNOW WE NOW ARE APPROACHING
AROUND 500 ARRESTS.
>> JOINING ME NOW, FORMER SENATE
DOUG JONES OF ALABAMA, ANGELA
WRITE, IMPACT STRATEGIES AND
FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CLINT
WATTS AND FORMER FBI SPECIAL
AGENT AND DISTINGUISHED FELLOW.
WE HAVE TO STILL DO THIS MONTHS
AFTER THE INSURRECTION, BUT WE
HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE PROSECUTIONS
BEGIN IN THESE CASES.
A FEW HEADLINES, WHAT THEYRE
SAYING, THEIR LAWYERS SAYING,
PROUD BOYS, TRUMP IS TO BLAME
FOR INCITING THE CAPITOL RIOT.
NOT EVEN QAnon DISOWNS TRUMP
CLAIMING HE WAS DUPED BY THE
FORMER PRESIDENT.
PROUD BOYS LEADER, YOU LEFT UP,
SLAMS TRUMP IN EXPLETIVE LADEN MESSAGE.
3% PERCENT%ER PERCENT%ER PERCENT
ACCUSED OF CONSPIRACY.
SERIOUS CHARGES RELATED TO THE
INSURRECTION.
CLINT, ONCE AND FOR ALL, WHO WAS
RESPONSIBLE SO THAT IF LOUIS
GOMER, DOESNT SEEM TO BE THE
BRIGHTEST TOOL IN THE SHED
APPARENTLY WANTS TO MAKE THIS
COUNTERCASE, WHOS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE JANUARY 6th
INSURRECTION?
>> THAT WOULD BE PRESIDENT TRUMP
SUPPORTERS, SEVERAL DIFFERENT
MILITIAS, THE QAnon FANTASY, IT
ALL SHOWED UP THERE THAT DAY AND
CONVERGENCE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
SUPPORTERS AND THERE BECAUSE HE
WAS THERE, JOY.
HE WAS OUT IN THE YARD.
HE WAS DELIVERING SPEECHES.
SAYING HE WAS GOING TO WALK TO
THE CAPITOL.
WHY THEY WERE THERE.
WHAT I FIND INTERESTING ABOUT
THESE DEFENSES, THEYRE GOING IF
A
IT A COUPLE WAYS.
ONE GROUP STICKING TOGETHER.
NO, NO.
ELECTION STOLEN.
GO WITH THE BIG LIE AND TRY TO
PERPETUATE IT.
NOW YOURE SEEING EXACTLY THE
QUOTES PUT UP A MINUTE AGO
SAYING PRESIDENT TRUMP BETRAYED
US.
HE SENT US UP THERE.
WE ARE FALLING BECAUSE OF HIM.
THAT CHARGE OF CONSPIRACY
INSULATED BY THE CAPITOL, JUST
CAME OUT WITH THE 3 PERCENTERS
IS MAJOR GROUNDBREAKING.
LOVE FOR THAT TO COME OUT BEFORE
THE HEARING.
DIRECTOR WRAY SAY, JUST ADVANCED
A CONSPIRACY CHARGE A GROUP
CALLED THE 3 PERCENTERS THERE
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
DONT GIVE US FALSE FLAG
NONSENSE ANYMORE.
>> TO BE CLEAR.
3 PERCENTERS, PROUD BOYS, ARE
THEY LEFT OR RIGHT-RING?
SO ELEMENTARY.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE.
>> GOOD POINT, JOY.
ALL HARD RIGHT-WING MILITIA
GROUPS.
>> OKAY.
THANK YOU.
DOUG JONES, FORMER SENATOR, YOU
PROSECUTED THE KLAN.
YOUVE DONE THESE KINDS OF CASES
BEFORE.
HAVE YOU SEEN THESE KINDS OF
INSTANCES WITH FAR RIGHT RACIST
RIGHT-WING GROUPS TO TRY TO
PORTRAY IT THAT, WELL, CLULTLY
IT WAS LIBERAL GROUPS WHO DIDNT
IT.
WASNT US.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS AS A
WAY THESE KIND OF GROUPS DO
BUSINESS?
>> YOU KNOW, NOT JUST THESE
GROUPS, JOY.
THIS IS ANYBODY THATS CHARGED
WITH A CRIME THATS GOING TO TRY
TO POINT THE FINGER AT SOMEBODY
ELSE.
SOMEBODYS GOING TO TRY TO
DEFLECT. DONT LOOK AT THE MAN BEHIND THE
DONT LOOK AT THE MAN BEHIND THE
CURTAIN FROM THE "WIZARD OF OZ".
THEYLL CONTINUE TO TRY DO TAHAT
YOU SAID SOMETHING ERROR
IMPORTANT.
IF REPRESENTATIVE GOMER HAD THAT
CONVERSATION, A BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM
OF THAT.
KNOW WHO WENT IN THERE.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CONSPIRACY.
I AGREE, DAMNING INFORMATION
THATS COMING OUT WHETHER ITS A
CONSPIRACY, BUT CRIMINAL CASES
WILL NEVER TELL THE ENTIRE STORY
AND WHY YOU NEED A BIPARTISAN
COMMISSION, BOTH SIDES CAN LOOK
AT FACTS.
FACTS THAT CAN BE AGREED ON BY
BOTH SIDES OF THAT COMMISSION,
AND THATS WHATS SO STUNNING
ABOUT THIS.
THAT PEOPLE WILL MAKE THESE
ALLEGATIONS BUT ESSENTIALLY SAY
WE REALLY DONT WANT YOU TO LOOK
AT THESE ALLEGATIONS.
WE WANT TO JUST SAY IT.
>> SEEMS TO ME, ANGELA WROOIY,
BENNIE THOMPSON, A LAWSUIT FILED
REGARDING THE VIOLENCE SEEN.
POTENTIAL FOR THERE TO BE A
SELECT COMMITTEE SPEAKER PELOSI
COULD THEORETICALLY PUT
TOGETHER.
IF YOU WERE STILL WORKING ON THE
HILL, HE WILL MADE A SUBPOENA
AND TELL UNDER OATH WHO TOLD HIM
IT WAS GOING TO BE QUOTE/UNQUOTE
ANTIFA?
PEOPLE DRESSED UP AT TRUMP
SUPPORTERS?
WOULD YOU CALL AS A WITNESS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
BEFORE LOUIS GOMER, KEVIN
McCARTHY, SUGGEST HE BE CALLED,
AND BEFORE KEVIN McCARTHY,
SUGGEST THE THREE GOP LAWMAKERS
WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR
COORDINATING WITH THESE GROUPS
BE CALLED.
ALL OF THESE FOLKS NEED TO COME
TO THE TABLE.
THIS SHOULDNT BE A PARTISAN
ISSUE TO POINT, JOY, AT MITT
ROMNEY WAS RUNNING DOWN THE HALL
WITH CAPITOL POLICE ESCORTING
HIM LIKE LEASE VIRGINIA BLUNT
ROCHESTER ON HER HANDS AND KNEE
PRAYING WITH DEMOCRATIC
COLLEAGUES.
THEIR MEMORIES FAILED THEM.
THERE WAS A NOOSE WITH MIKE
PENCES NAME ON IT.
RIGHT?
THIS ISNT ABOUT PARTISANSHIP
ITS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
HOW CAN WE PREVENT WHAT
HAPPENED?
ITS GREAT, THAT, YES, FBI
DIRECTOR WRAY NEEDS TO TALK
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THE
FAIRS OF THE FBI WERE.
WHY WERENT PEOPLE BELIEVED?
CERTAINLY CONGRESSMAN THOMPSON
HAD THIS INTELLIGENCE, CERTAINLY
CONGRESSWOMAN MAXINE WATERS
CHAIRED SERVICES AND CALLED
THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED
TO BE MINDFUL OF AS WE GET
CLOSER TO THE INAUGURATION.
THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVE ACCESS TO INTELLIGENCE, BUT
ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO JUST PLAIN,
OLD COMMON SENSE AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN LISTENING TO THE MEMBERS
RECEIVING DEATH THREATS FOR
MONTHS, FOR YEARS, UNDER DONALD
TRUMP.
WHY WOULD THEY ALL OF A SUDDEN
ACT PEACEFULLY?
TELL ME WHY?
AND THAT IS, I THINK, THE THING
WE REALLY HAVE TO BEGIN TO
ANSWER.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
HAVE TO BE CALLED, THAT IF
THEYRE SUBPOENAED THEY HAVE TO
BE WILLING TO TELL THE TRUTH.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
DOUG JONES, IF YOU PROSECUTED
THIS CASE, LOOKING AT IT, I KNEW
SOMETHING BAD WAS GOING TO
HAPPEN JANUARY 6th.
ALL YOU HAD TO DO, GET ON
TWITTER, IF YOU COULD READ,
LOOKING AT SOCIAL MEDIA.
EVERY WHO KNEW, EVERY LAW
ENFORCEMENT PERSON I WAS SAYING
BE CAREFUL ON THE 6th SOMETHING
BADS GOING DOWN BECAUSE DONALD
TRUMP SAID, JOIN US IN
WASHINGTON, D.C. ON THE 6th.
ITS GONNA BE WILD.
WOULD YOU CALL DONALD TRUMP AS A
WITNESS IF YOU WERE PROSECUTING
A CASE OF THIS NATURE?
DOUG JONES?
>> I CERTAIN WOULD TRY TO
INTERVIEW THE PRESIDENT.
ID TRY TO INTERVIEW ALL THE
SPEAKERS THAT WERE THERE, AND WE
WOULD SEE WHAT HAPPENED.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD
CONSENT TO AN INTERVIEW OR A
GRAND JURY SUBPOENA, I DONT
KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
MY GUESS IS THEY WOULD NOT.
BUT I THINK, IVE SAID THIS SO
MANY TIMES.
I THINK ANYONE THAT WAS AT THE
MALL, SPEAKING, ANYONE THAT WAS
AT THE CAPITOL, TRYING TO BREAK
INTO THE DOORS, EVERYONE SHOULD
BE INVESTIGATED AND LOOKED AT
AND COMPLETE TRIED TO BE
INTERVIEWED.