>>> FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, THE
FLASH APPARENTLY OFFICIAL.
PRESIDENT KENNEDY DIED AT 1:00
P.M. CENTRAL STANDARD TIME.
>> THAT MOMENT, WEDNESDAY,
MARKED 60 YEARS SINCE THAT
MOMENT, WHEN PRESIDENT KENNEDY
WAS ASSASSINATED.
THE KILLING HAS FUELED DECADES,
THOUGH, OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHETHER LEE HARVEY OSWALD ACTED
ALONE OR WHETHER THERE WERE
OTHER GUNMAN.
IN FACT, THERE'S EVEN A GALLUP
POLL ON THIS, AND IT SHOWS THAT
65% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE THE
ASSASSINATION INVOLVED A
CONSPIRACY TO KILL THE
PRESIDENT.
OUR NEXT GUEST HAS A NEW PODCAST
DELVING INTO ALL OF THAT.
AND IT PROVIDES SOME NEW
EVIDENCE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
FLIP WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT
INFAMOUS DAY IN DALLAS.
WITH US NOW IS ACTOR, FILMMAKER,
AND POLITICAL ACTIVIST, ROB
REINER.
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
E
ERIKA ALREADY STARTED LISTENING
TO THE PODCAST.
IT'S DOING REALLY WELL.
>> IT'S NUMBER EIGHT, I THINK,
NOW.
AND WE'VE HAD TWO EPISODES.
>> SOON TO BE NUMBER ONE AFTER
THIS INTERVIEW.
>> OF COURSE.
>> AND THE THIRD ONE DROPS ON
WEDNESDAY, WHICH IS THE
ANNIVERSARY OF THE
ASSASSINATION.
>> WHY DID YOU WANT TO DIG INTO
THIS?
>> YOU KNOW, I WAS 16 WHEN IT
HAPPENED.
AND ANYBODY WHO WAS ALIVE AT THE
TIME WILL NEVER, EVER FORGET
WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY HEARD.
>> OF COURSE.
>> IT WAS A NATIONAL TRAUMA.
AND WE ALL EXPERIENCED IT,
COLLECTIVELY.
THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
TEACHER TOLD US THAT SOMETHING
TERRIBLE HAS HAPPENED TO THE
PRESIDENT, VERY BAD NEWS.
THEY SENT US ALL HOME FROM
SCHOOL, AND WE WATCHED FROM THAT
MOMENT UNTIL THE MOMENT WHERE
THE SUSPECTED ASSASSIN OF
KENNEDY, LEE HARVEY OSWALD, WAS
SHOT HIMSELF ON LIVE TELEVISION.
I SAW THAT HAPPEN BY JACK RUBY.
AND IT JUST WAS BIZARRE.
THE WHOLE THING WAS BIZARRE.
AND THEN THE WARREN COMMISSION
COMES OUT A YEAR LATER, AND I
DIDN'T THINK VERY MUCH ABOUT IT,
I WAS 17, 18 YEARS OLD.
BUT THEN BOOKS STARTED COMING
OUT, "RUSH TO JUDGMENT," I
STARTED LISTENING TO OTHER
PEOPLE, I READ EVERYTHING I
COULD.
AND OVER THE 60 YEARS, WE HAVE
HAD REVELATIONS AFTER
REVELATION, AND -- BUT PEOPLE
DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT
WORKS IN THE AGGREGATE.
AND SO I DECIDED, BECAUSE I'VE
BEEN STUDYING THIS FOREVER.
I'VE BEEN TO DALEY PLAZA MANY
TIMES.
I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS
ALIVE AT THE TIME.
I'VE TALKED TO FORENSIC EXPERTS.
I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY.
I DECIDED TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT
TOGETHER, IN A COMPREHENSIVE,
DEEP DIVE AS TO WHAT ACTUALLY
HAPPENED THAT DAY WITH THE BEST
INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT THIS
POINT AND PUT IT ALL TOGETHER.
AND WE DO, EVENTUALLY TELL YOU
WHAT WE THINK HAPPENED.
WE NAME NAMES OF ACTUAL SHOOTERS
AND WE TALK ABOUT THE POSITIONS
THOSE SHOOTERS WERE IN.
AND THIS IS BASED ON TALKING TO
HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
AND READING MANY, MANY BOOKS AND
LOOKING AT ALL -- RECENTLY,
THERE WAS A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT
THE PARKLAND DOCTORS.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM SAID,
ALL THE SHOTS ON KENNEDY WERE
ENTRANCE WOUNDS.
WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN,
THE SHOTS DIDN'T COME -- THERE
WERE SHOTS FROM THE SIXTH FLOOR,
BUT THOSE SHOTS ARE NOT THE ONES
THAT KILLED KENNEDY.
>> YOU WERE SAYING TO POPPY AND
I IN THE BREAK, THAT THIS IS
REALLY SOMETHING THAT FOR 60
YEARS YOU HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT AND
STAYED ON TOP OF.
WHEN YOU GET TO THIS POINT WHERE
YOU'RE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER,
DID ANYTHING CHANGE FOR YOU
ABOUT WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW
AND WHERE YOU ARE NOW?
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS DID.
ONE WAS THAT THE -- YOU KNOW,
EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT THE GRASSY
KNOLL, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- THAT'S
WHERE THE -- YES, THERE WAS A
SHOOTER THERE.
AND WE BELIEVE THE SHOT THAT
WENT THROUGH HIS NECK DID COME
FROM THERE.
BUT THE KILL SHOT, THE TERRIBLE
SHOT THAT -- I'VE BEEN THERE
MANY TIMES.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
YOU CANNOT SHOOT FROM THIS
ANGLE, HIT SOMEBODY IN THE HEAD,
IT WOULD COME OUT THERE.
IT WOULDN'T COME OUT BACK THERE.
AND SO ALL THE FORENSIC EXPERTS
I TALKED TO SAID, IT HAS TO BE A
DIFFERENT ANGLE.
SO WE LOOKED AND I STUDIED, AND
I TALKED TO A MAN WHO WAS ON, IN
THE DALEY PLAZA.
HE WAS A CIA ASSET, WHO FLEW
JOHNNY RIZELI, THE MOBSTER, TO
DALLAS THAT DAY, ALSO E HOWARD
HUNT TO DALLAS THAT DAY.
THEY WERE BOTH THERE.
HE WAS ON THE SOUTH KNOLL AND HE
SAID THERE WAS A SHOOTER FROM
THAT ANGLE.
NOT THE SOUTH KNOLL, BUT UNDER
THE OVERPASS.
AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THAT, I
WENT, THAT'S IT.
AND THEN I READ A BOOK BY SHERRY
PFISTER, WHO WAS A GREAT
FORENSICS ANALYST, AND IT
CORROBORATED THAT.
THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.
AND THEN THE DISCOVERY OF NOT
ONLY WAS THE WARREN COMMISSION
COMPROMISED, BUT THE HOUSE
SELECT COMMITTEE, MANY YEARS
LATER, OVER TEN YEARS LATER, WAS
ALSO COMPROMISED.
THEY CAME TO A DIFFERENT
CONCLUSION.
THEY SAID IT WAS A CONSPIRACY.
WARREN COMMISSION SAID OSWALD
ACTED ALONE.
YOU HAVE TWO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL
RECORDS SAYING THE EXACT
OPPOSITE.
BUT THEY WERE BOTH COMPROMISED,
BECAUSE THEY WERE CIA AGENTS.
IN CHARGE OF THE GATEKEEPER OF
INFORMATION.
NEITHER OF THEM GOT ANY
INFORMATION OF ANY CONNECTION
BETWEEN OSWALD AND THE CIA.
AND KNOWING WHAT WE KNOW,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE HAS
BEEN A LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT HAS
DRIFTED DOWN OVER THE YEARS AND
DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
RELEASED, FOUR YEARS, THEY HAVE
A STACK LIKE THIS, A FILE ON
OSWALD, THE CIA DOES.
NONE OF THAT EVER CAME OUT.
NOBODY UNDERSTOOD THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN OSWALD AND THE CIA FOR
YEARS, FOR FOUR YEARS, WHEN HE
WENT TO RUSSIA.
THERE'S THOUSANDS OF PAGES ON
HIM.
SO WE KNOW THAT THEY HAD A
CONNECTION.
WE DO KNOW THAT.
>> ROB REINER, CLEARLY, YOUR
PASSION ON THIS SHOWS.
WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
I CAN'T WAIT TO LISTEN OVER THE
HOLIDAYS.
THANK YOU.
>> IT WILL BE INTERESTING.
THE THIRD ONE IS INTERESTING,
BECAUSE IT'S THE FORENSICS.
>> AND THAT COMES OUT WEDNESDAY.
>> THAT'S WEDNESDAY AND TELLS
YOU ALL OF THE FORENSICS.
>> THANKS, ROB.
APPRECIATE IT.