THIS COULD BE AND HOW BAD IT POTENTIALLY COULD BE IF WE DON’T
TAKE DRAMATIC STEPS RIGHT NOW.
LET’S ACTUALLY GO TO THE WHITE
HOUSE, WHERE WE FIND NBC
CORRESPONDENT HANS NICHOLS.
HANS, WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE
PRESIDENT’S PREVIOUS STANCE
ABOUT THIS, WHERE HE TALKED
ABOUT IT GOING AWAY, IT’LL BE A
MIRACLE, IT’LL WASH THROUGH, SO
YESTERDAY, WHERE HE SEEMED TO
REALIZE JUST HOW SERIOUS THIS
REALLY IS?
REALLY IS? >> Reporter: MORE IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INFORMATION
HAS BEEN COMING IN TO THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN
INFORMATION FROM THE BEGINNING,
SO LOIKIKE A LOT OF FOLKS, I’M
WONDERING WHAT PRECIPITATED THE
MARKED CHANGE IN TONE FROM THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. YOU TALK ABOUT HOW DRAMATIC IT
WAS.
WAS. FOR ME, THE MOST DRAMATIC
MOMENTS WERE WHEN THE PRESIDENT
WAS GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO GO
AFTER SOME OF HIS TRADITIONAL
WHIPPING BOYS.
WHIPPING BOYS. JEFF BEZOS, ANDREW CUOMO.
HE PASSED UP THOSE
OPPORTUNITIES.
OPPORTUNITIES. THE ONLY TIME HE WAS A LITTLE
BIT PUGILISTIC WAS WHEN HE
SUGGESTED NO ONE IS REALLY TO
BLAME, EXCEPT, THEN HE HINTED
EXCEPT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
ORIGIN, THE SOURCE.
THEN WE SAW THE REVERSION WHEN
THE PRESIDENT, AS YOU MENTIONED,
WAS BACK ON TWITTER LATE AT
NIGHT.
NIGHT. HE STARTED CALLING THIS THE
CHINESE VIRUS.
CHINESE VIRUS. I THINK WE SHOULD BE WATCHING TO
WHAT EXTENT HE USES ANTI-CHINESE
RHETORIC TO MAKE HIS POINT, AS
HE IS CALLING ON ALL AMERICANS
TO BAND TOGETHER.
WE KNOW THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO
ENJOYS A FOIL.
HE ENJOYS COUNTERPUNCHING.
THAT’S THE SORT OF RHETORICAL
CHANGE AND SLIGHT SHIFT I’M
LOOKING FOR TODAY.
I THINK IT BEARS DOWN ON ALL OF
US TO FIGURE OUT, WAS THERE ANY
NEW, ADDITIONAL, SPECIFIC PIECE
OF INFORMATION THAT REALLY
TRIGGERED THIS, AS WE’RE ALL
ACKNOWLEDGING, DRAMATIC CHANGE
IN TONE?
IN TONE? >> HANS, DO YOU HEAR ANYTHING
COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE,
THAT WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU, AND
THIS WAS OUT OF THE PRESIDENT
YESTERDAY, THAT THE PRESIDENT
AND THE TASK FORCE UP ON THE
PODIUM IS MOVING TOWARD A FULL
SHUTDOWN OF THE COUNTRY?
HE DIDN’T WANT TO GO THERE
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT’S
HAPPENING IN ITALY, SPAIN, AND
FRANCE, AS WELL, AND SAN
FRANCISCO ALONE HAS TAKEN THE
STEP, DO YOU THINK WE’RE HEADED
IN THAT DIRECTION, BASED ON WHO
YOU’RE TALKING TO IN THE WHITE
HOUSE?
HOUSE? >> Reporter: I DON’T.
I’LL TELL YOU WHY.
NUMBER ONE, IT IS UNCLEAR WHAT
MECHANISM THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT HAS TO FORCE THAT
SORT OF CHANGE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SUGGESTED YESTERDAY, I
THINK I JUST GAVE AWAY THE KEY
PART, SUGGESTED.
PART, SUGGESTED. THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THESE WERE GUIDELINES.
THESE WERE NOT DIRECTIVES.
THESE WERE NOT ORDERS.
PEOPLE THINK OF THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES AS BEING
IMMENSELY POWERFUL.
IMMENSELY POWERFUL. ON SOME THINGS, THEY ACTUALLY
HAVE TO USE PERSUASION.
THEY HAVE TO PULL CERTAIN LEVELS
OF GOVERNMENT.
OF GOVERNMENT. I’M NOT DETECTING THAT ANYWHERE
IN THE GOVERNMENT, THAT THE
PRESIDENT WANTS TO DO A
NATIONWIDE OCCURCURFEW.
NATIONWIDE OCCURCURFEW. A LOT OF FOLKS WERE SHOOTING
THAT DOWN.
THAT DOWN. THEY MAY DO THINGS REGIONALLY
AND LOCALLY, BUT THE ENTIRE
WHITE HOUSE, THE ENTIRE WEST
WING IS SINGULARLY FOCUSED ON
THIS.
THIS. THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT
ADDITIONAL, SEVERAL PACKAGES
GOING DOWN TO THE HOUSE, MAYBE
MID-WEEK.
MID-WEEK. THEY’LL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL
MONEY.
MONEY. THIS IS JOE’S OLD TERRITORY, BUT
THEY’LL BE ASKING FOR A
SUPPLEMENTAL BILL.
SUPPLEMENTAL BILL. THIS IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM
THE BIG STIMULUS PACKAGE THAT
MNUCHIN AND PELOSI ARE WORKING
OUT.
OUT. THEY’RE GOING TO KEEP GOING OUT
TO ALL THE AGENCIES, LIKE DOD.
WHAT DOES DOD NEED?
WHAT DOES DHS NEED?
DHS HAS A NEED, BECAUSE YOU SAW
THOSE RETURNING AMERICANS COMING
BACK, AND THERE’S NOT ENOUGH
SCREENINGS.
SCREENINGS. MAYBE DHS WILL BE TOPPED OFF,
MORE MONEY FOR THEM.
SO I THINK TODAY IS GOING TO BE
SORT OF A GEARS OF GOVERNMENT
DAY, BUT I’M NOT DETECTING
ANYTHING OF A TOTAL SHUTDOWN.
AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE A CAVEAT.
THAT COULD MEAN I’M A BAD
REPORTER AND DON’T HAVE THE
LINES INTO THE RIGHT PLACES,
GUYS.
GUYS. >> YOU’RE NOT A BAD REPORTER,
BUT YOU’RE RIGHT, THIS CHANGES
HOUR BY HOUR.
YOU DON’T WANT TO MAKE ANY
PREDICTIONS.
PREDICTIONS. YOU’RE A GREAT REPORTER, HANS.
GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.
JOE, THE REPORT DR. BURKS
REFERENCED, THE BRITISH REPORT,
BASICALLY SAID THAT WE WOULD
HAVE TO KEEP THESE MEASURES IN
PLACE UNTIL THERE IS A VACCINE
FOR CORONAVIRUS.
FOR CORONAVIRUS. AS WE KNOW, DR. FAUCI AND OTHERS
HAVE SAID THAT COULD BE A YEAR
TO 18 MONTHS.
DOESN’T MEAN THIS IS GOING TO
LAST THIS WAY, WE’RE GOING TO
LIVE THIS WAY FOR THAT LONG, BUT
THAT’S PART OF WHAT, I THINK,
OPENED THE PRESIDENT’S EYES
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. >> IT WAS A SOBERING REPORT THAT
WAS DELIVERED THIS WEEKEND.
2 MILLION, UP TO 2 MILLION
AMERICANS COULD DIE FROM THE
CORONAVIRUS.
CORONAVIRUS. THAT’S ACTUALLY, THINK ABOUT IT,
WILLIE, MORE AMERICANS THAN DIED
IN WORLD WAR 1, WORLD WAR II,
VIETNAM, AND THE CIVIL WAR
COMBINED.
COMBINED. IT IS A STAGGERING NUMBER.
THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN GREAT
BRITAIN, WHERE THEY REVERSED
COURSE AFTER FINDING OUT THEIR
MODELS YESTERDAY WOULD LEAD TO
250,000 BRITISH CITIZENS DYING.
SO THERE WAS, WITHOUT A DOUBT,
AN AWAKENING THERE.
THE WHITE HOUSE IS UNUSUALLY
FOCUSED AND FRIGHTENED ABOUT
WHAT IS COMING.
I SAY FRIGHTFRIGHTENED.
I SPOKE TO HIGH-RANKING
OFFICIALS YESTERDAY, JOHN
MEACHAM, WHO SAID THIS IS GOING
TO BE VERY BAD.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU
KNOW -- IT IS ALL HANDS ON DECK.
THIS ISN’T LIKE 9/11.
THIS IS LIKE WORLD WAR II.
IT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE
LIVE AS AMERICANS.
AND THE ATMOSPHERE INSIDE THE
WHITE HOUSE WAS VERY SOBER.
AS I HEAR THE PRESIDENT
YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT
VOLUNTARY MEASURES, AND THEN
SUGGESTING THEY MAY HAVE TO LOCK
DOWN SO-CALLED HOT SPOTS, I WAS
THINKING, THAT’S ACTUALLY THE
BEST WAY TO GO AT FIRST.
BECAUSE WE AMERICANS MIGHT NOT
RESPOND AS WELL, CERTAINLY NOT
AS WELL AS, LET’S SAY, PEOPLE IN
CHINA, PEOPLE IN SINGAPORE, TO
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOCKING
THINGS DOWN.
THINGS DOWN. IT IS GOING REGION BY REJOBGION,
STATE BY STATE, LOCALITY BY
LOCALITY.
LOCALITY. MIGHT THAT BE A BETTER WAY TO
START THIS?
START THIS? >> WELL, THE POLICY IS OBVIOUSLY
EVOLVING RAPIDLY, AND I THINK
IT’S GOING TO GET MORE DRACONIAN
BEFORE IT GETS LESS SO.
UNQUESTIONABLY.
UNQUESTIONABLY. I THINK WHAT DR. FAUCI HAS BEEN
SAYING ABOUT OVERREACT AND BE
CRITICIZED FOR THAT MAKES
INHERENT GOOD SENSE.
THE ANALOGY I KEEP THINKING OF
IS LESS ABOUT AMERICA DURING
WORLD WAR II, BECAUSE THOUGH WE
MOBILIZED, WE DID IT VERY LATE.
OBVIOUSLY, AFTER PEARL HARBOR
AND GERMANY DECLARED WAR ON US.
16 MILLION AMERICANS SERVED, 11%
OF THE MALE POPULATION.
2 MILLION IN EUROPE.
THERE WERE VICTORY GARDENS, AND
THERE WAS A FULL MOBILIZATION.
I THINK THIS IS MORE LIKE
ENGLAND AND BRITAIN DURING WORLD
WAR II.
WAR II. CIVILIANS ARE ACTUALLY
COMBATANTS, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU
FOLLOWED THE ANALOGY.
EVERYBODY WAS AT THE FRONT,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? CHURCHILL SAID IN THE GREAT
FINEST HOUR SPEECH, YOU KNOW,
LET US SO CONDUCT OURSELVES THAT
IF THE BRITISH EMPIRE WERE TO
LAST 1,000 YEARS, MEN WILL STILL
SAY, THIS WAS THEIR FINEST HOUR.
HE NEEDED EVERYBODY BECAUSE
GERMANY WAS DROPPING BOMBS ON
EVERYBODY.
EVERYBODY. WHERE WE’RE LIVING RIGHT NOW,
THE LUFWAFA IS OVERHEAD IN THE
FORM OF A PANDEMIC.
IT REQUIRES, DARE I SAY IT,
CHURCHILL-LIKE LEADERSHIP.
CHURCHILL-LIKE LEADERSHIP. YESTERDAY WAS MARGEINALLY BETTER
IT WAS LIKE LUCY AND THE
FOOTBALL WITH THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT THE LAST THREE YEARS.
WHENEVER YOU THINK THINGS ARE
MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION,
THEY END UP NOT.
THAT’S NOT A POLITICAL PARTISAN
POINT.
POINT. IT’S JUST AN OBSERVATION ABOUT
THE NATURE OF PUBLIC LEADERSHIP.
THE OTHER CHURCHILL LINE THAT I
THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE
IS HE ONCE SAID, THERE’S NO
WORSE MISTAKE IN PUBLIC
LEADERSHIP THAN HOLDING OUT
FALSE HOPES, SOON TO BE SWEPT
AWAY.
AWAY. TO GO DIRECTLY TO YOUR QUESTION,
I THINK YOU GO HARD AT THIS,
CLEAN IT UP LATER.
IF YOU GO SOFT AND YOU HAVE EVEN
MORE PEOPLE DYING, THAT’S
IRREVERSIBLE.
IRREVERSIBLE. >> AND I THINK, TOM, THAT’S
ACTUALLY AFTER THREE, FOUR WEEKS
OF THE WHITE HOUSE BEING IN
DENIAL, TALKING ABOUT THIS GOING
AWAY MAGICALLY.
AWAY MAGICALLY. I THINK THAT’S A REALIZATION
THAT FINALLY LANDED HARD ON THE
WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY, THAT
THERE’S NOT GOING TO BE A HAPPY
ENDING TO THIS.
YOU’RE JUST -- YOU’RE TRYING
TO --
TO -- >> MITIGATE.
>> MITIGATE. >> -- MITIGATE.
YOU’RE TRYING TO MANAGE THIS AND
KEEP THE DEATH COUNT AS LOW AS
POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. WHAT WE SAW YESTERDAY WAS A
WHITE HOUSE FINALLY FOCUSED ON
WHAT THEY NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON.
I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS
ARE ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
DO WE NEED, FROM THE WHITE
HOUSE, TO HAVE A DECLARATION
THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS
LOCKED DOWN, LIKE THEY’RE DOING
IN FRANCE AND SPAIN, OR IS THIS
A GOOD FIRST STEP?
IS THIS A GOOD TRIAL BALLOON TO
GET PEOPLE PREPARED?
WE’VE GONE FROM EMERGENCY
DECLARATION TO NOW THE PRESIDENT
AND THE WHITE HOUSE SAYING TEN
OR FEWER PEOPLE TOGETHER, WORK
AT HOME, SELF-ISOLATE IN A
DRAMATIC WAY.
DRAMATIC WAY. ARE WE JUST GOING STEP BY STEP
TO THE POINT WHERE THE COUNTRY
GETS LOCKED DOWN LIKE FRANCE AND
SPAIN?
SPAIN? >> WELL, I THINK, FIRST OF ALL,
I AGREE WITH JON, THAT WE HAVE
TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT A LUCY AND
THE FOOTBALL SITUATION HERE.
ONE PRESS CONFERENCE WHERE THE
PRESIDENT MEETS KIND OF THE
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF SOBRIETY
AND CLARITY IS NOT A SEA CHANGE.
IT IS SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY
ABOUT.
ABOUT. IT IS SOMETHING TO APPLAUD, BUT
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PRESIDENT
HAS TROUBLE FOCUSING.
I THINK THAT’S TRUE FOR THIS
ADMINISTRATION IN GENERAL.
I THINK MOST AMERICANS PROBABLY
WOULD BE HAPPY IF TONY FAUCI
BECAME PRESIDENT RIGHT ABOUT
NOW.
NOW. I DON’T THINK IT’S GOING TO BE A
GOOD MOVE TO TRY TO GO FOR A
NATIONAL LOCKDOWN.
NATIONAL LOCKDOWN. I DON’T SAY THIS BECAUSE I’M NOT
A MEDICAL DOCTOR.
LOOKING AT THIS AS A MATTER OF
POLICY, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS
THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS LOST THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT WITH A LOT
OF PEOPLE.
OF PEOPLE. SO THINGS LIKE VERY DRACONIAN
MEASURES THAT LOOK LIKE
CURTAILMENTS OF FREEDOM,
ESPECIALLY DURING AN ELECTION
SEASON, ARE GOING TO GET A
JAUNDICE EYE FROM A LOT OF
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. THAT’S UNFORTUNATE.
THAT’S UNFORTUNATE. I DON’T SAY THAT BECAUSE I
SOMEHOW THINK THE PRESIDENT
WOULD BE UP TO NO GOOD DOING
THAT, OR THE TEAM AROUND HIM, OR
THE DOCTORS ADVISING HIM.
RATHER, BECAUSE OF THE
PRESIDENT’S TRACK RECORD, NOT
JUST FOR THREE YEARS, BUT
ESPECIALLY IN THE PAST THREE
MONTHS, WHERE HE HAS BEEN REALLY
INCONSTANT AND LACKED
TRANSPARENCY AND PUT OUT A LOT
OF BAD INFORMATION.
IF THE PRESIDENT AND THE WHITE
HOUSE TRIES TO MOVE FORWARD NOW
WITH, YOU KNOW, THESE REALLY
DRACONIAN SOLUTIONS, I THINK
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE
SECOND-GUESSING HIM BECAUSE,
AGAIN, HE’S LOST THE BENEFIT OF
THE DOUBT AMONG A LOT OF
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. I THINK WHAT THEY’RE DOING IS
THEY’RE TRYING TO EDGE US TOWARD
MORE TOUGHER SOLUTIONS
INCREMENTALLY, SO THAT WE CAN
ACCEPT IT MORE EASILY.
>> YEAH, WHICH I THINK IS
ACTUALLY THE PROPER APPROACH.
AGAIN, I WILL ASSOCIATE MYSELF
WITH EVERYTHING THAT’S BEEN SAID
ABOUT HOW THIS PRESIDENT, THIS
WHITE HOUSE BUNGLED THIS CRISIS
OVER THE PAST.
OF COURSE, IF YOU’VE WATCHED THE
SHOW FOR NOR THANMORE THAN TEN M
THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS,
YOU UNDERSTAND WE’RE CRITICAL
ABOUT JUST EVERYTHING THE
PRESIDENT DOES.
PRESIDENT DOES. MIKA, I’LL PULL OUT JON’S WORLD
WAR II ANALOGY.
WE ARE ALL JOINED TOGETHER AS A
COUNTRY, FIGHTING AN EPIDEMIC
THAT COULD END UP -- LET ME SAY
THIS AGAIN.
THIS AGAIN. BASED ON THE STUDY THAT GOT TO
THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY --
KILL MORE AMERICANS THAN DIED IN
WORLD WAR II, WORLD WAR I, THE
CIVIL WAR, AND VIETNAM.
WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE WHITE
HOUSE AND THAT THE PRESIDENT
CONTINUES THIS SOMBER APPROACH.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THE
BEGINNING OF THIS
ADMINISTRATION, WHEN WE HAD A
LOT OF LEADERS, LIKE, WELL, YOUR
FATHER, ROBERT GATES, OTHERS,
ALL SAID, WE ONLY HAVE ONE
PRESIDENT AT A TIME.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE
CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THIS
PRESIDENT SUCCEEDS.
PRESIDENT SUCCEEDS. WELL, OBVIOUSLY, THIS PRESIDENT
HAS MADE THAT VERY DIFFICULT
OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS.
I’M HOPEFUL THAT YESTERDAY WAS A
NEW BEGINNING, ESPECIALLY AS IT
PERTAINS TO THIS BATTLE THAT
WE’RE ALL FACING.
ONE FINAL THOUGHT.
AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN SIT
HERE AND SAY WHATEVER THE HELL
WE WANT TO SAY ON TV.
THERE’S 45% OF AMERICANS THAT
AREN’T GOING TO BELIEVE THIS IS
A CRISIS UNTIL DONALD TRUMP SAYS
IT IS A CRISIS.
WE HAVE THE SOUTH CAROLINA
GOVERNOR SAYING HE WAS GOING TO
GO TO MARDI GRAS -- OR GOING TO
GO TO THE ST. PATRICK’S DAY
PARADE, AND PEOPLE SHOULD JUST
STAY AT HOME, UNTIL THE
PRESIDENT DECLARED A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY.
EMERGENCY. YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE BEING
IRRESPONSIBLE ON CABLE NEWS
UNTIL THE PRESIDENT SAID THIS
WAS A SERIOUS CHALLENGE.
WE NEED BUY-IN FROM ALL
AMERICANS TO WIN THIS BATTLE
AGAINST A PANDEMIC THAT WILL END
UP KILLING AT LEAST 100,000
AMERICANS MOST LIKELY.
>> WHAT YOU SAW YESTERDAY WAS
THE PRESIDENT GETTING BETTER
WHEN IT CAME TO MATCHING HIS
TONE AND HIS OWN KIND OF GUT
RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS THAT HE
WAS GETTING, TO THE REALITY OF
THE SITUATION.
THE SITUATION. WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A
JAUNDICED EYE, YOU NOTICED THAT,
AND YOU SAT UP AND TOOK NOTE.
I MEAN, THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES MADE IT EASIER TO
PARENT TEENS YESTERDAY.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T HAVE GROUPS
OF TEN OR MORE, AND THE
PRESIDENT IS SAYING YOU CAN’T DO
THAT, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO
COMMUNICATE THAT TO THE YOUNG
POPULATION.
POPULATION. HE DID A LOT TO GET PEOPLE TO
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY YESTERDAY.
I MEAN, I’VE SEEN WHERE WE ARE
RIGHT NOW, AND WHERE WE GO
DURING THE DAY OR COMMUNITIES
THAT MIGHT BE MORE PRO-TRUMP,
THAT MIGHT THINK THIS IS HOAXY.
NOPE, EVERYONE IS IN.
IMMEDIATELY, YOU COULD FEEL A
DIFFERENCE AFTER THE NEWS
CONFERENCE YESTERDAY.
CONFERENCE YESTERDAY. I DON’T KNOW IF THE JAUNDICED
EYE ON BOTH SIDES APPLIES TO
RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
REALLY SCARED.
REALLY SCARED. THEY’RE SEEING THE SIGNS.
THEY’RE SEEING THE MAPS.
THEY’RE SEEING THIS SPREAD
ACROSS THE WORLD.
WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE FROM
WASHINGTON IS A MASS
MOBILIZATION, A WAR FOOTING.
THE PRESIDENT IS BEGINNING TO
SHOW THAT.
SHOW THAT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY,
WILLIE, IS THAT EVERY TIME HE
TWEETS OR GETS PERSONAL, HE
HURTS THAT REALLY REALISTIC,
EFFECTIVE APPROACH.
EFFECTIVE APPROACH. I’M REALLY HOPING HE TAKES IT
DOWN A NOTCH ON ANYTHING THAT’S
SORT OF VINTAGE TRUMP, GOING
AFTER PEOPLE, FIGHTING THE
FIGHT.
FIGHT. AT THIS POINT, IT IS UNIFORM
WHAT WE NEED.
UNIFORM MOBILIZATION.
UNIFORM MOBILIZATION. >> YEAH, AND CONSISTENCY.
I THINK YOU AND JOE ARE EXACTLY
RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
HE DID HIS JOB AT THE PRESS
CONFERENCE, BUT AS I SAID AT THE
TOP OF THE SHOW, IF YOU GO TO
TWITTER AFTERWARD, HE WENT BACK
TO OLD DONALD TRUMP.
DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE HE
SAID THE MEDIA HAS BEEN GOOD AND
FAIR DURING THIS, GETTING
INFORMATION OUT.
INFORMATION OUT. THEN HE IS TWEETING ABOUT THE