AND ONLY DR. EILEEN MARTY WHEN WE COME BACK. >> BOOSTER SHOTS ARE FLOW
AVAILABLE FOR MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS AND PHARMACIES HERE IN
SOUTH FLOOR DPA ARE ALREADY
GIVING DOSES.
>> BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF
CONFUSION OVER THIS THIRD DOSE,
OVER THE BOOSTERS AN OVER OTHER
THINGS COVID RELATED.
AND FOR THAT DR. MARTY FROM
FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY
JOINS US NOW, WHAT, FROM THE
FOREST?
WHERE ARE YOU?
>> ARE YOU ON A HIKE OR
SOMETHING?
>> YOU ARE ON YOUR DECK, SO IT
LOOKS GOOD, DR. MARTY, WELCOME
WITHIN WE REALLY.
>> GREENSCREEN.
>> SO SO THERE IS, MICHAEL AND I
ARE JUST SITTING HERE, MY
QUESTION IS WHY ARE PEOPLE
CONFUSED, AND MICHAEL EXPLAINED,
PEOPLE ARE SAYING DIFFERENT
THINGS, THE CDC AND THE DIRECTOR
AND THE ADVISORY PANEL.
WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
BOOSTERS, WHO GETS THEM, AND
WHEN?
>> SO THE BOTTOMLINE IS RIGHT
NOW THE PEOPLE WHO CAN GET THE
BOOSTERS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE 65
AREAS OLD OR OLDER MUCH OR 18
AND ABOVE WHO HAVE THE KIND OF
UNDERLYING CONDITIONS THAT MAKE
THEM MORE LIKELY TO NEED THAT
BOOSTER BECAUSE OF THOSE
UNDERLYING CONDITIONS.
AND INDIVIDUALS WHOSE OCCUPATION
PUTTING S THEM AT HIGH RISK OF
GETTING SEVERE DISEASE, YOU
KNOW, VERY HIGH BOL USES OF
INFECTION.
AND LIKEWISE THOSE KINDS OF
INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE OF THEIR
OCCUPATION WHO ARE CLOSE TO
INDIVIDUALS WHO WIND UP BEING
HIGH RISK, AGAIN THEY NEED THE
BOOSTERS AS WELL TO PROTECT
THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
>> WELL, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT
PEOPLE LIKE YOU, DOCTORS, HEALTH
CARE WORKERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE
EXPOSED TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE
COVID-19.
DR. MARTY, WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO
GOT THE J & J.
>> AND ALSO, IF I WERE EXPOSED
AND THEN I WOULD EXPOSE SOMEONE
WHO IS VERY SUS-- SUSCEPTIBLE.
SO WHEN YOU ARE IN A HIGH RISK
PROFESSION WHERE YOU ARE LIKELY
TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOUNTER THE
VIRUS, THEN YOU DON’T WANT TO
TRANSMIT THAT TO THE NEXT
PATIENT EITHER.
>> OF COURSE, SO MY QUESTION NOW
IS FOR PEOPLE WHO GOT MODERNA OR
J & J WHAT IS THEIR STATUS WITH
ANOTHER SHOT.
>> SO ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE J
& J VACCINE.
BECAUSE I DIDN’T HEAR YOU FOR A
SECOND THERE.
>> YES, THE J & J WHICH WAS A
SINGLE SHOT, WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING TO
UNDERSTAND IF THEY SHOULD GET A
BOOSTER WITHIN.
SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE A
BOOSTER, THAT IS A SECOND DOSE
WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE THING
TO DO FOR THE J & J.
THE REASON IT WAS DONE AS A
ONE-SHOT IS BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD
ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU THAT 70
PERCENT EFFICACY.
WHICH WAS OVER THE MINIMUM THAT
WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE WERE FIRST
TRYING TO CREATE THESE VACCINES
AND WE DIDN’T KNOW WHERE WE
WOULD LAND.
BUT A SECOND DOSE OF THE J & J
GETS YOU UP TO THAT 93 PERCENT
EFFICACY, VERY COMPARABLE TO TWO
SHOTS OF PFIZER AND TWO SHOTS OF
MODERNA WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY
WERE DONE.
SO IT REALLY IS WHERE PEOPLE
NEED TO BE.
REMEMBER THAT THE J & J VACCINE
S AN ADD ENO VIRUS REPRODUCTION
INCOMPETENT THAT HAS ON IT A
PIECE OF THE SPIKE FROM
CORONAVIRUS.
AND THAT ADENOVIRUS 26 MODIFIED
THAT WAY WITH THAT PARTICULAR
SPIKE IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE
ONE THAT IS USED IN SPUTNIK BY
THE RUSSIANS BUT THE RUSSIANS
ALWAYS GAVE THE SECOND SHOT N
THEIR CASE WITH THE ADD ENOVIRUS
5 TO BRING THAT EFFICACY UP TO
90.
SO WE ARE JUST PARALLELLING NOW
BY GIVING A SECOND DOSE OF J & J
WHAT THE RUSSIANS HAD BEEN DOING
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
>> AND THE PEOPLE WHO GOT ONE OF
THOSE THREE AVAILABLE SHOTS, THE
FIRST TIME, HAVE TO GET THE SAME
BOOSTER FROM THE SAME COMPANY,
PFIZER, MODERNA J & J, IS THAT
RIGHT?
>> THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT IS
RECOMMENDED BECAUSE-- THERE IS
JUST NOT ENOUGH FROM HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES ABOUT MIXING AND
MATCHING VACCINES.
AND SO THE DATA SO BASING IT
ON USING THE SAME IS WHY IT IS
DONE THAT WAY.
BUT EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH
STUDIES IN SPAIN AND IN THE U.K.
AND IN GERMANY AND ELSEWHERE
SHOWING THAT MIXING AND MATCHING
CAN ACTUALLY WORK QUITE WELL,
ESPECIALLY DRUGS LIKE-- VACCINES
LIKE THE ASTRAZENECA MATCHED
WITH SOMETHING LIKE PFIZER OR
MODERNA.
>> SEE, THIS IS WHY IT IS
CONFUSING.
BECAUSE YOU JUST GAVE TWO PIECES
OF INFORMATION IN ONE ANSWER, SO
F IS WHY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT REAL QUICKLY,
THERE IS KIND OF A BLOWUP THIS
WEEK ABOUT VACCINATION RATES.
MIAMI DADE IS TOWTS 90%
VACCINATED WHICH WAS WOW, I
THINK THE STATE IS NOT EVEN 60
PERCENT AS A WHOLE.
BROWARD AND MONROE, RIGHT
BEHIND.
BUT THIS WEEK THERE WERE PARTS
OF THE COUNTY THAT WERE 100 PLUS
PERCENT VACCINATED WHICH KIND OF
IS NOT POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THOSE
NUMBERS?
>> RIGHT, AND OVER 2,700 PERCENT
VACCINATED WITH THE ZIP CODE OF
THE AIRPORT.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS PEOPLE
WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS GETTING
THEIR VACCINE HERE AND A VERY
LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE
INDIVIDUALS CLAIM-- CLAIMING A
ZIP CODE THAT BELONGS TO MIAMI
DADE, AND THEREFORE WE OUR
NUMBERS ARE INCORRECT.
IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE PERCENT
OF ALL RESIDENTS THAT ARE
ACTUALLY VACCINATED.
>> AND IS THAT IMPORTANT
INFORMATION?
I MEAN HOW WOULD THAT DICTATE
PEOPLE’S BEHAVIOR KNOWING THAT
OR NOT.
>> RIGHT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO
HAVE OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE
UPWAFERRED 80, IDEALLY OVER 90
PERCENT OF US FULLY VACCINATED.
AND THEN WE COULD REALLY EXPECT
TO HAVE AN EASING OF
TRANSMISSION DOWN TO SOMETHING
THAT’S NO LONGER A HIGH RISK.
THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
THAT’S WHAT WE WANT.
BUT WE’RE NOT REALLY THERE.
SO THE TRUE NUMBERS ARE MUCH
LOWER THAN THAT.
AND WE JUST DON’T HAVE THE
CORRECT DATA INPUT TO GIVE BACK
THE CORRECT OUTPUT.
SO OUR NEUM RATERS ARE OFF, OUR
DENOMINATORS ARE BASED ON THE
CENSUS DATA.
>> ALL RIGHT, DR. AILEEN MARTY,
WE ALWAYS VALUE YOUR EXPERTISE
AND TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.