BILL, I’M GOING TO QUOTE YOUR
COLUMN THAT YOU PENNED THAT
SUGGESTS NOW IS THE TIME TO
REMOVE WASHINGTON’S NFL TEAM.
YOU WRITE, "OUR HISTORY SKIPS
OVER THE DETAILS AND TELLS US
THAT THE GOVERNMENT TOOK LAND
AWAY FROM INDIANS BUT SKIPS THE
GRUESOME DETAILS.
THIS IS WHY STATUES ARE TOPPLING
AND CONFEDERATE FLAGS ARE BEING
REMOVED.
THE FIGHT OF GEORGE FLIED BEING
EXECUTED IN COLD BLOOD BY A
MINNESOTA POLICE OFFICER WAS
SICKENING."
SO, REALLY, THE PERSECUTION OF
BLACK PEOPLE HAS CAST A WIDE NET
OF INFLUENCE IN ALMOST EVERY
INDUSTRY.
ONE THING I FIND INTERESTING
ABOUT THIS IS THE TEAM OWNER IN
D.C. FOR A LONG TIME WOULD COME
OUT AND PARADE, YOU KNOW, SOME
MEMBERS, INDIGENOUS PEOPLE, AND
SAY, WELL, THEY DON’T FIND THIS
RACIST, SO IT’S ALL GOOD.
SO, THIS WHITE TEAM OWNER WAS
ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT WAS RACIST
AND WHAT WASN’T AND FOUND PEOPLE
TO ECHO THAT MESSAGE.
I KIND OF THINK THAT WOULD BE
LIKE IF YOU PLUCKED, YOU KNOW,
SOME BLACK FOLKS AT A MAGA RALLY
AND SAID, WELL, HEY, THEY DON’T
MIND ANYTHING THE PRESIDENT IS
SAYING, SO HOW CAN IT BE RACIST?
SO, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY’RE
GOING TO CHANGE THE NAME?
AND IF SO, WHY SO LONG?
WHY THE RESISTANCE?
IF SOMEBODY SAYS TO ME SOMETHING
I SAY OFFENDS THEM, I THINK I
WOULD JUST ACCOMMODATE THEM AND
NOT SAY THAT THING.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT TOOK US THIS
TO GET HERE?
>> WELL, I THINK -- FIRST OF
ALL, THANK YOU.
I DIDN’T GET TO KNOW TO WEAR
RED, SO.
>> YOU LOOK HANDSOME AS EVER,
SIR, SO YOU’RE FIND.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK BOTH JAMEL
AND I AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN BEATING THIS DRUM FOR A
LONG TIME, AS YOU SAID.
I JUST THINK THE CONFLUENCE NOW
OF -- YOU KNOW, WHEN ROBERT E.
LEE GOES DOWN IN RICHMOND,
VIRGINIA, EVERYTHING IS IN PLAY.
I THINK NASCAR TAKING THE
CONFEDERATE FLAG OUT, THE
MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE.
I JUST THINK -- AND TRUST ME,
SNYDER PROBABLY HAD NO -- IN
2013, WHEN HE SAID, I’LL NEVER
DO IT, NEVER, HE PROBABLY
BELIEVED IT AS MUCH AS WHEN
GEORGE WALLACE OF ’63 SAID
SEGREGATION NOW, SEGREGATION
FOREVER, NEVER THINKING THAT THE
ALABAMA FOOTBALL TEAM WOULD BE
LIKE 90% BLACK.
SO, I THINK THAT JUST AS YOU DID
THAT GREAT SEGMENT BEFORE, THIS
IS A HIGHLIGHT ON JUST WEALTHY
PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF
PRIVILEGE, NEVER THINKING THAT
THE SWELL OF MORALITY WILL FORCE
THEIR HAND.
I JUST THINK THAT’S, YOU KNOW,
SNYDER FINDS HIMSELF IN FRONT OF
THIS FIRING SQUAD OF MORALITY.
AND ONE THING I SAY, I’LL END BY
SAYING, THOUGH, IS GREAT ABOUT
PEPSICO AND ALL THAT.
BUT I THINK, IN OUR INDUSTRY,
OUR INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, THE
ESPN, WHO I WORK FOR, "THE NEW
YORK TIMES," CBS, NBC, THEY ALSO
HAVE TO MAKE A COMMITMENT THAT
WE’RE DONE.
WE’RE NOT USING THIS WORD
ANYMORE.
THAT’S WHERE THE COMMITMENT HAS
TO COME FROM.
OTHERWISE, ALL THIS STUFF --
WE’VE HEARD THE IS
TALKING, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS
TRYING TO GET AS MANY BLACK
FOLKS IN THEIR CORPORATION TO --
WHAT DO YOU FEEL?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS, YOU
KNOW, SO ARE THEY GOING TO DO
IT?
WE’LL SEE.
THAT’S MY OPERATIVE WORD, WE’LL
SEE.
>> WE’LL SEE INDEED.
JAMIL, YOU KNOW I STAND FOR YOU
ON TWITTER AND I THINK YOU HAVE
THE MOST AMAZING AND DIGNIFIED
CLAP BACKS OF ALL TIME AND WHEN
THEY GO LOW, YOU GO HIGH BUT
STILL MANAGE TO GET THAT CLAP
BACK IN.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS
WHOLE PLAN THE NFL WILL PLAY THE
BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM BEFORE
EVERY GAME.
SO FIRST, I WANT TO KNOW DO YOU
KNOW THE SECOND VERSE, THE BIG
QUESTION IN THE COMMUNITY THAT
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW AND, SECOND,
YOU ADDRESSED IT ON TWITTER AND
SAID, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY CRUMBS
THEY’RE OFFERING SO TALK US
THROUGH YOUR OPINION ON THAT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY WHAT
A ROUSING START TO WHAT IS IT
RENAMED ON YOUR SHOW HAPPY
FREDERICK DOUGLASS DAY AND BILL
RHODEN AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
HOSTING THE SHOW TODAY.
LOOK, APOLOGIES TO ALL THE HBCU
GRADS THAT CAME WHO JUST ALL
TELL ME WE KNOW THE SECOND
VERSE.
I KNOW.
DON’T AGO LIKE I’M THE ONLY
BLACK PERSON THAT WHEN LIFT
EVERY VOICE CAME ON THAT SECOND
VERSE WE’RE LIKE, HMM, HMM.
I’M NOT THE ONLY PERSON.
Y’ALL NOT GOING TO MAKE ME FEEL
BAD.
HBCU GRADS, I UNDERSTAND.
AT ANY RATE THIS, GETS BACK TO
WHAT I THINK IS KIND OF A
PROBLEM ACROSS THE BOARD I’M
SAYING NOT JUST FROM THE NFL BUT
VARIOUS BRANDS AND SPONSOR,
PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS
TO GET INVOLVED.
BLACK PEOPLE, WE HAVE BEEN
FIGHTING FOR -- FIGHTING
AGAINST, RATHER, SYSTEMIC
OPPRESSION, FIGHTING AGAINST
INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AND
FIGHTING TO GET A SEAT AT THE
TABLE AND LEAD THE TABLE AT
TIMES AND, YOU KNOW AT THE NFL,
A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF KIND OF
MISREADING THE ROOM AND
UNDERSTANDING LIKE THESE LITTLE
PLACATING GESTURES AREN’T GOING
TO WORK.
YOU HAVE A LEAGUE THAT IS 70% TO
80% BLACK AND YOU’VE NEVER HAD A
MAJORITY PLAQUE OWNER.
I’M WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
I’M NOT WORRIED WHAT YOU SING OR
DON’T SING BEFORE THE GAMES.
THAT’S NOT TO SAY I’M NOT
APPRECIATE TIFFERE OF THE BLACK
NATIONAL ANTHEM AND WHAT IT
STANDS FOR.
YOU KNOW WHAT I ABETTER GESTURE
WOULD BE, GETTING COLIN
KAEPERNICK BACK INTO THE LEAGUE.
THAT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER
GESTURE.
SEEMS LIKE THE NFL WANTS TO DO
EVERYTHING BUT CORRECT THE
SYSTEMIC ISSUES THIS THEIR OWN
LEAGUE SO I WORRY THAT PEOPLE
START GETTING TOO FOCUSED ON
GESTURES, GETTING FOCUSED ON
TURNING THINGS FROM MASTER
BEDROOM INTO PRIMARY BEDROOM AND
GETTING FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS