welcome back my YouTube friends out there welcome back to exotic car play
place and the thread about BMW reliability and talking about which cars
really are reliable which cars are not reliable today we're going to do another
check another verification to see which cars really are reliable and more
importantly we're doing our less reliable so we're gonna head on down to
the local BMW dealership and we're gonna snoop around and what we're going to do
is really check to see what kind of cars are in the shop now firstly there's a
lot of different ways you can verify overall reliability yeah there's fairly
reliable ways reliable ways of checking that JD powers you can check things like
consumers reports you can look at lemonade guidebooks you can talk to
friends and family who may own a BMW maybe you own one and you've got your
own kind of ideas to what type of drivetrain what cars have consistently
been good or bad for you there's lots of ways to get that information as well as
just general browse on the Internet of course you want to check around on my
channel there's lots of information there on various types of reliability on
these cars but today we're really going to zip down to the dealer and look
around I'm gonna show you which cars are a problem now of course a lot of these
cars are going to be in there for standard servicing oil service tire
changes brakes routine stuff of course but there will be and there should be
some level of consistency in terms of you will see a thread I'm sure if
there's certain types of vehicles that are in there a little bit more than the
others I would think that that would be a bit of an indicator we'll walk you
through that and I'll point out some of the key cars that I find and that I
notice and I'll kind of share some of the info that I know about them that you
know what leads them to be a problem so let's go take a look guys alright
x5 seems to be a bunch x5z looks like his tires changed because of the spares
on the back 550 GT we have an e46 here kind of old most people don't take these
to the dealer anymore just because the age
3:28 no plates probably a trade-in now this one here belongs on the service
department we all know what the reliability of the 7 Series is that's
the 750 we all talk about it's probably in here for a coolant leak this car was
extremely unreliable I had a lot of electrical issues and whatnot tough car
to keep there's another x5 of course x3 I see a lot of the SUV's another x3 x3
old generation x5 of course lots of SUVs in this shop we have a new generation 4
Series new generation 3-series look old m3 sones in a 36 I'm not sure what the
Fords doing here must be lost
it's this weird noise coming is not even running well can you say hey Honda
Hyundai these must be trade-ins I would think in some cases here we have a an x5
with the 35 now I've got a friend that actually has this exact same car and he
has had a lot of issues they couldn't resolve it now it's that's the turbo in
this car he loves the way it drives it's quick it's fun it's responsive the
problem is it's been in the shop a lot and that seems to go consistently with a
lot of the other ex cars a lot of problems are great when they're running
but when you have a lemon look out they're gonna hurt you so I don't know
his was a little bit of a problem I haven't heard lately if he's got it
sorted out but he had a lot of issues with idling issues the car would stall
randomly and just overall drivability concerns with it power
yes when it was good it was awesome but he had a lot of issues and other acts so
we have a 328 these are pretty generic those poema for standard servicing we
have an x5 another x5 here we have an X 6 no this is yeah next 6 we have a GT
here 550 then we have a 525 but this car looks a little bit rough and then you
know another 5 X X 5 X 2 e 90 this is an e 90 that's a sedan we have the 750 we
know those are notoriously unreliable issues that have plagued the 7 Series
for years moving right along we have another 7 Series here these are again
the premium luxury cars but they are notoriously unreliable then we move
along we see 328 and 4 probably standard miscellaneous stuff this cover here
looks pretty rough here here's an a 92 we've got a coupe here it's an e 92 look
at the tires there my goodness right down to the threads to the treads
this cars been driven hard put away wet I would say you've got a 4:35 see
there's not a lot of these here 3:30 see newer generation stuff here of course we
got a 328 newer generation good stuff again probably standard servicing these
newer generations you don't see a lot of issues in them yet
newer John 4:35 probably standard servicing some nice it's a grand coupe
actually and then we have another four series and another 430 here as well hard
to say yet Gran Coupe this one's in not a manual but who knows what the story is
there Wow
after walking through the service department here at the BMW dealer it
seems to be a bit of a common thread so you see a little bit of everything here
I would say which is pretty consistent with what you'd expect but given the the
larger numbers of ex cars I've seen here lots of X fives lots of X threes in the
service department that leads me to believe that there's more service
related problems with the X series of cars now not only that you have other
issues obviously there's a few of the newer cars but that's not really a big
indicator of the like a 435 or a 240 because there was only a couple of them
so I would say as a rule it's probably an F or standard servicing for the most
part but definitely there's a consistency with the X series of cars
the other thing of course is the 7 generation now there's not a lot of them
around in general because they're a premium luxury sedan and because they
don't have a lot of them that even hit the road it's surprising to see two of
them here alone in the service department obviously there's a bit of an
issue here consistently with the 7 Series cars we know that that generation
the latest is ok but but really these generations of 7-series
obviously have pretty substantial issues as I mentioned before and if you've seen
some of the other videos some of them are water like coolant related issues
and access it's not so much that that the it's such a big problem is just the
labor costs are huge on it because access on a lot of those cars like to
get into some of the the hardware to change a water pumps or the coolant
lines is very very difficult and it takes a lot of labour to get in there
that's where the problem lies and of course because the cars are so complex
with so many electronics that becomes a big problem there as well hugely
expensive cars to run and it doesn't surprise me to see a couple of that 7
Series in here so after spending about 20 minutes in the shop there or in the
base I would say that it's pretty obvious to me that given cars like the 3
Series 4 Series X ones those are low cost price point cars generally in the
BMW world and yet we didn't see a lot of those cars in the
service area the majority of the vehicles that we saw in for servicing
happened to be you know X 3s x5 s and to me that's a bit of an indicator now of
course a lot of times those are in there just for basic servicing and oil service
and whatnot but obviously it's a pretty good indication that there are typically
more issues related to those cars and the other thing I noticed given the
relatively low production numbers of the seventh series the fact that we saw two
of them in there their themselves are not short on issues the seventh series
have always been plagued with complex issues are related to electrical
problems I know there have been coolant related issues back in the mid late
2000s you know the later generations look to be a little better but they have
always suffered from you know reliability issues because of the
complexity associated with the 7 Series cars we didn't see many of the older
cars which is pretty obvious why - I think typically most people you know in
the e 90s now and older Mosul's people are either going to independent shops or
servicing themselves which obviously because the lower-cost a lot of times it
sits down third fourth fifth sets of ownership hands now so a lot of people
tend to do that stuff themselves and forego the expensive service costs at
the dealer but anyway either way all in all I would say the most obvious to me
are the X cars and I hope you guys take that with a grain but that is to me the
most the best indication as to the vehicles that you're going to expect now
the majority of the problems in the BMW world so thanks again everybody mark
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