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so much to talk about today glad you are with us we have more news more
revelations as a result of the documents lee by edwards snowed in
the guardian has a new report out today
uh... low it was really complete came out yesterday it was updated over over
the last twenty four hours
which now says that uh... deadwood snowden has released its has shown them
some subsequent documents to the ones outlining the n_s_a_
phone records surveillance program and what these documents a
is that
forum politicians and officials who took part in two different g twenty summit
meetings in london back in two thousand nine
had their computers monitored and their phone calls intercepted
on the instructions of their british government posts
the revelation comes as there is another summit starting today in britain for the
g_-eight nations all of whom attended the two thousand nine meetings and the
disclosure brings up a lot of new questions about
how far
does surveillance by digi c_h_ q
and the n_s_a_ which is the american sister organization of that
how much of that uh... what are the boundaries of that surveillance of other
uh... uh... bujji of other diplomats of other individuals in in canada's broader
under the broader and relevant biting
terrorism now
we've had it
this is that this is allies right and and there's been a lot of intelligence
experts who over the last twenty four hours of said you know it's not really
unheard of that even for so-called allies of two allies on paper you're
still spying on them you're still conducting surveillance so on and so
forth that's fine but there are very specific details here that that we're
learning including that there were internet cafes setup
as our roots and other words simply to get people to go there
and then of course everything was key log everything was surveilled everything
that they did their email was read so on and so forth delegates blackberries work
penetrated and and then email messages and phone calls were monitored
this is pretty significant stuff and again
if broadly speaking lewis
we no that surveillance is done even of so-called allies
could this possibly end well
first of all you have to assume
if our government is willing to spy on us
to the degree that they have been
why wouldn't they do it to anyone else in any other country in the world
you know i don't i don't know really how this is going to affect relations with
any other country because i assume those countries are doing the same thing to us
and that is in that that's being done to that the f_ turkey and russia have
reacted with what's been described his fury
to the thirty twenty spying revelations what's your thought on this but i mean
is there a chance that snowed in is
jailed killed whatever the case may be added swept under the rug or could this
have a real impact on diplomatic relations between countries going
forward
yeah i think he's definitely causing friction
uh... between the u_s_ and other allies and potential enemies to but uh... i
think he's in hot water legally i don't think uh... i'm not a conspiracy
theorist i don't think there's any reason to think that the government's
going try to kill 'em but they will try to extradite him and try and potentially
for treason interesting
uh... i wonder if
edward snowden is having any sense of regret at all we know that in his
initial
interview that he did
mcglynn greenwald
he said
i'm completely piece of my decision and i know the risks peery basically full
stop that's what he thinks i wonder if there is some aspect of this that he
still has the same feelings about that is absolutely no regrets
but some other aspects were maybe he's thinking you know i could have
achieve the same thing by only giving porn greenwalt some of these documents
but some of these others are getting the into allure bit of a different situation
legally and maybe that
wasn't really necessary maybe a making my own fate worse without really
improving anything i don't know
i mean where for this ends up in
other people getting getting killed right now harm maybe maybe ocean just my
man maybe you are i'm sure with regard to his own safety uh... he is at peace
with decision