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It's Charlie Marvel released the new Fantastic Four movie teaser.
I just did a big video for it.
And during that video, a lot of people asking what's going on with Silver Surfer and Doctor
Doom
Because Galactus is meant to be one of the big villains of the movie.
right after they released the teaser, it was revealed that they would be featured in some way
during the movie.
So we'll break it all down
because it does sound like they're doing something very different
and what they've done with the characters in previous films.
we just saw the Doctor Doom teaser in the Deadpool and Wolverine trailer.
So naturally it makes sense that Marvel would feature him in some way during the new Fantastic
Four movie.
If they want to set the character up to be a much bigger person during secret wars in the movies.
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so the big Doctor
Doom Easter egg in that Deadpool and Wolverine trailer is from the Secret Wars Number five comic book.
We talked a lot about that because it is literally right out of the comics
like it's a very Deadpool kind of Easter egg.
Like, here is the actual real life comic book.
We know they're doing.
Avengers Secret Wars is a possible two part movie now
with Avengers five in Avengers six, that's actually a pretty big change.
Just doing a two part movie instead of doing Qing Dynasty for Avengers five
Those movies would be a much bigger role for Doctor
Doom given how he was used in the more recent version of Secret Wars in the Comics as God Emperor of Doom.
Naturally, when they announced the new Fantastic Four movie cast a little while ago, they released
that teaser revealing it was set in the year 1963, just after President Kennedy's assassination.
most of us, assume that at some point at the end of the movie, they'd find a way to time
travel back to present day before Avengers five starts so that they can interact with the other characters.
They can also be part of that.
but the big missing pieces of the puzzle was the new MCU.
Doctor Doom in Silver Surfer because like I said, they announced that Galactus would be the main villain
of this new Fantastic Four movie while it was back in the year 1963.
in Marvel would naturally be using this as an opportunity
to do something more comic book accurate than the last time we saw Galactus
in the original Fantastic Four movies, No More Floaty Cloud Galactus.
And I think the idea of them doing it in 1963 allows them to add a sense of style to the movie
that's a little bit crazier than you would expect in present day
which is why it makes sense for them to do a crazy looking version of Galactus.
It's more comic book accurate.
the Chris Evans Fantastic Four.
Did you Silver Surfer.
He was voiced by Laurence Fishburne who's been in the main MCU
movies and series as Bill Foster Goliath for a while now.
he literally just came back in a bunch of what if season two episodes in the 1980s Avengers,
and was also featured in the What If Season three trailer?
I really did enjoy his version of Silver Surfer.
There are a lot of things you could say about those original Fantastic Four movies.
They didn't quite stick the landing on those, but there were some things
that they did get right about the characters Galactus just was not one of those things,
So naturally, Galactus is going to be a metaphorically and literally big character in the new movie.
Everyone was asking, What's going on with Silver Surfer?
Galactus cannot show up without one of his heralds in reportedly at least as recently as last year.
His main herald in the movie was supposed to be T-Rex, not Silver Surfer.
And they were trying to do something a little bit different with his heralds.
so at the time, I assume that meant they would totally swerve on Silver
Surfer in the movie and just not introduce him until another later movie.
There were also rumors about them doing
the Silver Surfer special presentation, which are basically like small TV movies for Disney.
Plus.
They did the same thing with Werewolf by Night, like Werewolf By and a special presentation.
And then they introduce him in other big movies after that.
But now it sounds like there will be a version
of Silver Surfer somewhere in the movie, at least in a small way.
Now, Silver Surfer was not Galactus First Herald, so it is possible that the Fantastic
Four kill his first Herald or his first Herald dies at some point
during the movie in that causes him to select Silver Surfer as the replacement Herald.
there will be kind of comic book accurate.
His original Herald was called The Fallen One and just became too much of a problem for Galactus.
We had to throw him in prison and he would just continually try to break out and fight Galactus.
And that's why he selected Silver Surfer as his next Herald Terrax
though for instance, wasn't his herald to like many heralds.
Later after Silver Surfer, though like that was much later in the comics.
The whole reason why Galactus got rid of Silver Surfer, as is Herald, though.
Is that because originally, when they debut Galactus in the comics Silver Surfer was his Herald.
He led him to Earth to consume it like you naturally would as a herald. but.
During those early Fantastic Four comics, this is a very early in the Fantastic Four's run in the 1960s.
In real life.
Silver Surfer rebels against him joins the Fantastic Four in the Watcher Uatu
who we've been seeing in the What If episode played by Jeffrey Wright in Galactus
punishes him by trapping him on Earth, which really wasn't that much of a punishment.
it was an excuse for Marvel to have runs of comics with Silver
Surfer on Earth, with the other characters for a while.
Eventually, Galactus came back to Earth and tried to get Silver Surfer back on his side
unsuccessfully, That's when he finally gave up on the matter and went and selected
his next Herold, who was called the air Walker But over the years, Galactus
has had many heralds, some of them more ridiculous than the others, like Thor was his herald.
Not that ridiculous.
Aunt May, though, became the Herald of Galactus, for example, even the Hulk became Galactus.
This Herald Most people also point out that he himself became Herald of Franklin Richards.
That's how powerful Franklin Richards is, who is already canon
in the larger MCU universe through the A38 universe.
During Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness,
John Brzezinski's Reed Richards said that he had multiple children
at the time.
That was meant to be a reference to both Franklin and Valeria Richards, His two children from the comics.
But at the time he made it sound like Franklin was still a very young child.
So even if he does want revenge
and his superpower powerful, he's probably not going to get it for a little while.
in Galactus didn't become Franklin's Herold until much, much later in Franklin's life.
There hasn't been any big casting news for this new version of Silver Surfer yet.
But he's super powerful.
It sounds like Marvel is just setting the character up slowly so they can use him in a bigger way
during one of the upcoming Avengers movies like Avengers five or Avengers six totally makes sense.
He's a huge part of the Fantastic Four's canon.
it would be weird if you introduced them then Galactus and did not introduce Silver Surfer.
there's also no real big casting news on Galactus other than they're still trying
to get either Javier Bardem or Antonio Banderas to play his voice.
So either you have the Puss in Boots version of Galactus or like the darker version of Galactus.
I think most people would prefer
the darker, edgier version of Galactus, but either one of them would be great.
Physically, though, like I said, it just makes sense that they do a more comic book
accurate looking version of him, which does seem a little bit crazier.
But because the entire movie is set in 1963.
Look, the whole vibe of the movie is meant to be a little more over-the-top.
It all makes sense.
there've been a couple of
times when they've almost used Galactus and Silver Surfer in previous Marvel movies.
Thor Love and Thunder is probably the most recent example of that.
Like there was a deleted scene where they had this entire sequence,
like a montage showing you the development of Jane Foster's version of Thor.
As she starts to figure out her powers.
they're about six months that go by where she has the power of Thor
before she actually runs into Thor himself.
During that time, she was going to have a montage facing a bunch of different
monsters, battles, other big characters from space.
one of them was going to be Galactus
like you can very clearly see here, very comic book, accurate looking version of Galactus.
But I think they were smart to remove this from the movie
because it would have been a really weird little too comedic way to introduce the Galactus character
People were already upset enough about that movie like you want to ruin Galactus
by trying to introduce him in some over-the-top comedic kind of way like this.
it does look like Marvel is now doubling down and doing Thor five, like a much more hardcore
version of Thor with a totally different director and a totally different writing team.
Hopefully that will redeem the character.
But because there's such a strong connection between Thor and Silver Surfer in the comics
that go way, way back in the classic comics, Hopefully we'll actually see those characters in some way.
During Thor five.
just in terms of the brand new version of MCU, Doctor Doom,
it sounds like what they'll do is they'll introduce him at the very end of the film.
And because his origin story is tied so closely to the Fantastic Four's origin story, the only theory
right now is that he's also from the 1960s and will somehow time travel to present day.
And that's why we haven't seen Doctor Doom until present day like right now in the MCU in real life.
that's also how they get around the Eternals problem of explaining why
we haven't heard about the Fantastic Four until now, because they are from the 1960s.
The Doctor Strange Shout out during Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness
about them charting in the Sixties, But it sounds like during the events of the new movie, they'll explain
how they tried to lay low without creating too many problems, too many nexus events, so to speak.
in however they solve their Galactus sized problem during the movie
they'll keep it under wraps so that it isn't reported all over the world.
So like everybody on the planet doesn't find out about it.
Otherwise everybody in present day of the MCU, like everything from Iron Man to the present day
movies, will be talking nonstop about giant space beings with helmets running around.
they try to address this whole real world aspect of like how the world deals with the Avengers
endgame movie in pretty much everybody on the planet at this point knows who Thanos
is and knows about the snap in the blip with everybody coming back.
So like it's common knowledge, people on the street, like regular people know about it.
They kind of got into that during the Shang She movie where they were casually talking about it
with their friends.
so early theory is right now as they convince Galactus
to not consume Earth back in the 1960s, saving the planet.
Then they time travel to present day.
I know there have been a lot of questions about them possibly being from an alternate universe.
That seems like an extra twist. So we'll see about that.
I think it makes a little more sense if they just come from the main MCU universe in the 1960s,
like I think Marvel isn't trying to make the movie more complicated than it needs to be.
But everyone.
Post all your fan cast for Silver Surfer in the comments,
they did just say that Henry Cavill is joining the MCU as a brand new character.
It's always possible that it could be Silver Surfer, but I'm not expecting it because it's probably going
to be some character that you can actually see his face and visibly identify him as Henry Cavill,
even though he would be like the most swole Silver Surfer you have ever seen.
that isn't really what Silver Surfer is like in the comics, though.
Like he's way leaner.
best example of that is that Doug Jones actually did the physical performance
for Silver Surfer in the original Fantastic Four movies.
He is super, super skinny.
they'll be filming the movie later this year.
So we'll get some more teasers.
I'll do more videos as we learn more about the movie.
But if you have any questions or theories, just post them in the comments below.
there are way more clues and details in the teaser that they released a couple of days ago.
I already done a much bigger video about that.
Click here to learn about all those.
and click here to learn about Henry Cavill joining the Marvel Universe
Thank you so much for watching. And I'll see you guys in the next one!