>> YEAH. >> AND THEY ARE IN CONTROL.
THANK YOU, RACHEL.
>> THANKS, LAWRENCE.
>> WELL, WE BEGIN WITH BREAKING
NEWS TONIGHT ABOUT THE REOPENING
OF BRETT KAVANAGH’S CONFIRMATION
HEARING FOR UNITED STATES
SUPREME COURT IN THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. IN THE 27 YEARS SINCE ANITA HILL
WAS VICTIMIZED BY THE
REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE
WHEN SHE CAME FORWARD WITH
SEXUAL HARASSMENT CHARGES
AGAINST REPUBLICAN SUPREME COURT
NOMINEE CLARENCE THOMAS, THE
REPUBLICANS ON THAT COMMITTEE
HAVE OBVIOUSLY LEARNED
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. BUT PROFESSOR CHRISTINE BLASEY
FORD HAS LEARNED A GREAT DEAL
ABOUT HOW NOT TO BE VICTIMIZED
BY THOSE SAME REPUBLICANS ON
THAT SIDE COMMITTEE.
AND SO TONIGHT DR. FORD IS
MAKING DEMANDS ON THAT COMMITTEE
THAT HAD BEEN DEMANDING HER
TESTIMONY IN WHAT WOULD BE A
RUSHED HEARING NEXT MONDAY.
ATTORNEYS FOR PROFESSOR
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD HAVE TOLD
CHUCK GRASSLEY, THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, A WRITTEN
RESPONSE TO HIS REQUEST FOR HER
TO TESTIFY ABOUT THE ACCUSATIONS
AGAINST SUPREME COURT NOMINEE
BRETT KAVANAGH.
BRETT KAVANAGH. AN FBI INVESTIGATION OF THE
INCIDENT SHOULD BE THE FIRST
STEP IN ADDRESSING HER
ALLEGATIONS, A FULL
INVESTIGATION BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS WILL ENSURE THAT THE
CRUCIAL FACTS AND WITNESSES IN
THIS MATTER ARE ASSESSED IN A
NONPARTISAN MANNER AND THAT THE
COMMITTEE IS FULLY INFORMED
BEFORE CONDUCTING ANY HEARING OR
MAKING ANY DECISIONS.
>>> LISA BANKS, ONE OF
DR. FORD’S ATTORNEYS, WAS ASKED
TONIGHT IF THIS MEANS THAT
DR. FORD WILL REFUSE TO TESTIFY
IN THE HEARING THAT IS NOW
SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY.
>> SHE WILL TALK WITH THE
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. SHE’S NOT PREPARED TO TALK WITH
THEM AT A HEARING ON MONDAY.
THIS JUST CAME OUT 48 HOURS AGO.
>> SO POINT BLANK, IF THERE IS
NOT AN INVESTIGATION BETWEEN NOW
AND THEN, SHE WOULD NOT APPEAR
ON MONDAY IN A PUBLIC HEARING?
>> NO INVESTIGATION -- ANY
LEGITIMATE INVESTIGATION IS
GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND
MONDAY.
MONDAY. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
AND WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS
THERE SHOULDN’T BE A RUSH TO A
HEARING HERE.
HEARING HERE. THERE IS NO REASON TO DO THAT.
>> DR. FORD’S LAWYERS LETTER TO
CHAIRMAN GRASSLEY IN THE 36
HOURS HOURS SINCE HER NAME
BECAME PUBLIC SHE HAS RECEIVED
SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC AND
COMMUNITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
AT THE SAME TIME, HOWEVER, HER
WORST FEARS HAVE MATERIALIZED.
SHE HAS BEEN THE TARGET OF
VICIOUS HARASSMENT AND EVEN
DEATH THREATS AS A RESULT OF
THESE KIND OF THREATS, HER
FAMILY WAS FORCED TO RELOCATE
OUT OF THEIR HOME.
HER E-MAIL HAS BEEN HACKED.
AND SHE HAS BEEN IMPERSONATED
ONLINE.
ONLINE. WHILE DR. FORD’S LIFE WAS BEING
TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, YOU AND YOUR
STAFF SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING
FOR HER TO TESTIFY AT THE SAME
TABLE AS JUDGE KAVANAGH IN FRONT
OF TWO DOZEN U.S. SENATORS ON
NATIONAL TELEVISION TO RELIVE
THIS TRAUMATIC AND HARROWING
INCIDENT.
INCIDENT. THE HEARING WAS SCHEDULED FOR
SIX SHORT DAYS FROM TODAY AND
WOULD INCLUDE INTERROGATION BY
SENATORS WHO APPEAR TO HAVE MADE
UP THEIR MINDS THAT SHE IS
MISTAKEN AND MIXED UP.
WHILE NO SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR
SHOULD BE SUBJECTED TO SUCH AN
ORDEAL, DR. FORD WANTS TO
COOPERATE WITH THE COMMITTEE AND
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS
AS THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS
RECOGNIZED AND DONE BEFORE.
AN FBI INVESTIGATION OF THE
INCIDENT SHOULD BE THE FIRST
STEP IN ADDRESSING HER
ALLEGATIONS.
ALLEGATIONS. AND LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION
NOW, BOB SCHIFF, FORMER CHIEF
COUNSEL TO SENATOR RUSS FINE
GOLD, WHO SERVED ON THE SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, AND LISA IS
BACK, CODIRECTOR OF DOCUMENT AND
SHE IS THE FORMER CHIEF COUNSEL
FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE RANKING
MEMBER OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE ON THE DEMOCRATIC
SIDE.
SIDE. SHE WAS THE DEPUTY ASSISTANT
ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
AND, LISA, I WANT TO START WITH
YOU.
YOU. THERE’S BEEN A FURIOUS AMOUNT OF
MATERIAL FLYING AROUND NOW IN
THE LAST HOUR ABOUT WHAT’S GOING
ON HERE AND WHAT IS -- WHAT
THERE IS PRECEDENT FOR, WHAT
THERE ISN’T.
THERE ISN’T. SENATOR ORRIN HATCH WHO HAS BEEN
A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR
LONGER THAN ANY OF US CAN
REMEMBER AND WAS THERE
HUMILIATINGIMSELF DURING THE
ANITA HILL HEARING, HAS ISSUED A
TWEET TONIGHT ABOUT AN FBI
INVESTIGATION THAT DR. FORD IS
DEMANDING, SAYING, THE FBI DOES
NOT DO INVESTIGATIONS LIKE THIS.
THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS TO US.
AND, LISA, THAT IS JUST AN
OUTRIGHT LIE BY A MEMBER OF THE
COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FBI IS
SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE ABOUT
NOMINEES WHO COME BEFORE ANY
COMMITTEE OF THE SENATE.
>> THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.
I WAS ASTONISHED BY BOTH THAT
TWEET AND THE RELEASE FROM THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SUGGESTING
THAT THE FBI DOESN’T WANT TO DO
IT AND DOESN’T HAVE ANY
JURISDICTION OVER IT.
IN FACT, THE FBI CERTAINLY DOES
AS PART OF THE TRADITIONAL
BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION OF A
NOMINEE TO THE JUDICIARY OR
OTHER SIGNIFICANT POST.
IT IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THE
PURVIEW OF THE FBI TO EXAMINE
THIS.
THIS. HAD THIS COME UP AS PART OF ITS
ORDINARY WORK, HAD SOMEONE
RELAYED THIS, THIS ALLEGATION TO
THEM AS THEY WERE CONDUCTING THE
INVESTIGATION A MONTH AGO, THEY
CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE LOOKED INTO
IT.
IT. THERE’S NOTHING, LITERALLY
NOTHING IN THE LAW, NOTHING IN
THE PRECEDENT THAT WOULD PREVENT
THEM FROM EXAMINING THIS
THOROUGHLY AND METHODICALLY,
CAREFULLY IF THEY’RE KBG ITEXAMI
IT.
IT. THIS IS ANOTHER ARBITRARY
ROADBLOCK BEING PUT UP BY THE
REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE AND
BY THEIR COHORTS IN THE WHITE
HOUSE AND OVER AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT APPARENTLY.
DEPARTMENT APPARENTLY. THIS IS CERTAINLY A MATTER
THAT’S WORTHY OF AN INDEPENDENT
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. THE TYPE OF INVESTIGATION THAT
THOSE MEMBERS ON THAT SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE ARE NOT
TRAINED AND CAPABLE OF
CONDUCTING.
CONDUCTING. >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY I’VE
BEEN SO IMPRESSED BY HOW
DR. FORD AND TONIGHT HER LAWYERS
HAVE BEEN HANDLING THIS FROM A
SENATE STRATEGIC STANDPOINT THAT
I ACTUALLY HAD RUN A CHECK TO
SEE.
SEE. ARE THESE LAWYERS FORMER SENATE
STAFFERS?
STAFFERS? BECAUSE AS WE ALL ARE HERE, I’M
LOOKING AT A LEVEL OF
SOPHISTICATION IN THEIR STRATEGY
THAT IS JUST FLAWLESS AND THERE
IS NO REPUBLICAN ON THAT
COMMITTEE EXCEPT FOR POSSIBLY
JEFF FLAKE WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT
THEY ABSOLUTELY CANNOT GO
FORWARD WITH THIS NOMINATION
WITHOUT HEARING FROM DR. FORD,
AND NOW DR. FORD IS DICTATING TO
THEM WHAT HER TERMS ARE GOING TO
BE.
BE. LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT LINDSEY
GRAHAM SAID EARLIER TONIGHT WHEN
HE WAS PLAYING TOUGH AGAINST
DR. FORD BEFORE DR. FORD’S
LETTER ARRIVED AT THE COMMITTEE
WITH HER DEMAND FOR AN FBI
INVESTIGATION.
INVESTIGATION. LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT LINDSEY
GRAHAM SAID EARLIER THIS
EVENING.
EVENING. >> IF SHE DOES NOT WANT TO COME
MONDAY, PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY,
WE’RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND VOTE
WEDNESDAY.
WEDNESDAY. >> BOB SCHIFF, I FOR ONE THINK
THAT LINDSEY GRAHAM HAS MET HIS
MATCH, THAT LINDSEY GRAHAM IS
NOT GOING TO BEAT DR. FORD AT
THIS GAME.
THIS GAME. >> I THINK THAT’S RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A VERY
STRATEGIC THING THEY’VE DONE,
BUT IT’S ALSO THE RIGHT THING
THAT THEY’RE ASKING TO DO.
>> RIGHT, EXACTLY.
THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT,
BOB.
BOB. I DON’T MEAN TO REDUCE THIS TO A
STRATEGIC ISSUE.
STRATEGIC ISSUE. AS SENATE INSIDERS, I’M HUGELY
IMPRESSED AT THAT LEVEL.
YOUR POINT IS THE IMPORTANT ONE.
IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
>> RIGHT FROM THE START WHEN
THESE ALLEGATIONS FINALLY BECAME
PUBLIC, MY THOUGHT BACK TO THE
ANITA HILL HEARING WAS THAT
EXACTLY THE WRONG WAY TO
DETERMINE WHETHER THE
ALLEGATIONS THAT DR. FORD HAS
MADE ARE TRUE AND WHETHER BRETT
KAVANAGH IS TELLING THE TRUTH
WHEN HE CATEGORICALLY DENIES
THEM IS TO HAVE A HEARING WITH
19 SENATORS GOING BACK AND FORTH
IN 10-MINUTE ROUNDS QUESTIONING
THESE TWO WITNESSES.
AN INVESTIGATION WHICH ALLOWS
FOR ALL PEOPLE WITH RELEVANT
INFORMATION TO BE QUESTIONED AND
FOR THE FACTS TO BE ASSEMBLED IN
A WAY THAT SENATORS CAN THEN
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS KNOWN AND
WHAT IS NOT KNOWN AND PERHAPS
HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, IF
NECESSARY.
NECESSARY. BUT A CIRCUS IS NOT WHAT WE NEED
FOR ALLEGATIONS OF THIS
SERIOUSNESS AND THIS IMPORTANCE
TO THE FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY.
>> LINDSEY GRAHAM’S BULLYING WE
JUST SAW ABOUT WE’RE DOING THIS
ON MONDAY, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT,
HAS BEEN UNDERMINED NOT ONLY BY
DR. FORD’S STRENGTH, WHICH I
BELIEVE WILL DEFINITELY PREVAIL
HERE, BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY
SAID THEY HAVE THE TIME.
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TIME.
AND SO LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID TODAY WHICH
IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE
JUST HEARD LINDSEY GRAHAM SAY.
>> MR. PRESIDENT --
>> IS A DELAY ACCEPTABLE, SIR,
ON THE HEARINGS FOR JUDGE
KAVANAGH?
KAVANAGH? THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION HE MAY
NOT BE COMING IN ON MONDAY.
>> I THINK IT’S A GREAT QUESTION
FRANKLY.
FRANKLY. WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THIS DONE
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, SO WE
HAVE TIME AVAILABLE.
WE WILL DELAY THE PROCESS UNTIL
IT’S FINISHED OUT.
I GUESS WE HAVE INVITED
EVERYBODY -- I KNOW I CAN TELL
YOU THIS, THAT JUDGE KAVANAGH IS
ANXIOUS TO DO IT.
I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER
PARTY, BUT JUDGE KAVANAGH IS
VERY ANXIOUS TO DO IT AND A
DELAY IS CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE.
WE WANT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING. WE WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO
SPEAK UP AND TO SPEAK OUT.
>> LISA, EVERY DEMOCRAT ON THAT
COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE QUOTING
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING, A DELAY
IS CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE.
WE HAVE TIME AVAILABLE.
WE WILL DELAY THE PROCESS UNTIL
IT’S FINISHED OUT.
>> THAT’S RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT STATEMENT
BY SENATOR GRAHAM AND ALSO THE
WAY THAT SENATOR GRASSLEY SET
THIS HEARING SO QUICKLY IS
REALLY CONTEMPT WITH US OF NOT
ONLY DR. FORD, BUT OF THE
SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MATTER.
IT’S CERTAINLY -- IT’S CERTAINLY
RELEVANT TO WHETHER SOMEONE
SHOULD BE ENTRUSTED WITH A
LIFETIME POSITION ON THE COURT
TO EXAMINE THIS.
AND I THINK THAT DR. FORD HAS
COME FORWARD WITH A VERY SERIOUS
AND CREDIBLE STATEMENT OF WHAT
HAPPENED OR WITH CORROBORATION
ABOUT HOW SHE DESCRIBED THE
STORY AND WHO VICTIMIZED HER.
BRETT KAVANAGH.
BRETT KAVANAGH. AND SO I THINK THAT THIS IDEA
THEY HAVE TO RUSH IS COMPLETELY
ARBITRARY.
ARBITRARY. IT’S COMPLETELY MADE UP.
AND IN THIS INSTANCE, DR. FORD
HAS EVERYTHING TO LOSE BY
TELLING THE TRUTH.
SHE HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO DEATH
THREATS.
THREATS. BRETT KAVANAGH HAS EVERYTHING TO
GAIN BY LYING.
AND, IN FACT, WE’VE ALREADY
SHOWN IN THE EVIDENCE THAT CAME
OUT OF THE HEARING JUST TWO
WEEKS AGO SHOWED THAT HE’S MORE
THAN WILLING TO LIE AND MISLEAD
THE SENATE IN ORDER TO TRY TO
ADVANCE HIS CAREER.
SO I THINK RUSHING FORWARD WHEN
HE’S BEEN ENSCONCED AT THE WHITE
HOUSE, PREPARING FOR NEXT WEEK
WHILE SHE’S BEEN FLEEING HER
HOME IS MANIFESTLY UNFAIR.
THIS NEEDS TO BE FULLY
INVESTIGATED AND IT SHOULDN’T BE
GIVEN A SHORT SHRIFT AND THE WAY
SENATOR GRASSLEY APPROACHED THIS
MATTER FROM THE BEGINNING.
>> WE HAVE SENATOR FEINSTEIN
ISSUING A STATEMENT, I AGREE
100% THAT THE RUSHED PROCESS TO
HOLD A HEARING ON MONEY HAS BEEN
UNFAIR AND IS REMINISCENT OF THE
TREATMENT OF ANITA HILL.
SENATOR FEINSTEIN ADVOCATING THE
FBI INVESTIGATION.
FBI INVESTIGATION. AND, BOB, THERE IS A MUCH TO
FEAR ACTUALLY FOR BRETT KAVANAGH
AND HIS FRIEND MARK JUDGE WHO IS
ANOTHER WITNESS WHO WOULD BE IN
AN FBI INVESTIGATION.
THAT IS, OF COURSE, THAT LYING
TO THE FBI IS A FEDERAL CRIME IN
AND OF ITSELF.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THE FBI CAN ASK A SERIES OF
QUESTIONS, CAN REALLY -- AND
BRING TO BEAR INFORMATION THAT
THEY HAVE ACCUMULATED FROM OTHER
WITNESSES IN ASKING THOSE
QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. AND GET THE FULL STORY FROM
THESE PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT
SENATORS ASKING QUESTIONS BEFORE
A NATIONAL TELEVISION AUDIENCE
AND SOME OF THEM GRANDSTANDING
OR TRYING TO PUT FORWARD A POINT
OF VIEW CAN’T DO.
YOU KNOW, LISA IS ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT ABOUT THE TRUTHFULNESS
BEING THE IMPORTANT THING HERE.
THIS WAS -- THE SENATOR THAT I
WORKED FOR, SENATOR RUSS
FINEGOLD PUBLISHED A PIECE THAT
SAID WHEN HE WAS EVALUATING
NOMINEES, TRUTHFULNESS WAS A
NONNEGOTIABLE QUALITY.
NONNEGOTIABLE QUALITY. BRETT KAVANAGH’S TRUTHFULNESS
HAS BEEN CALLED INTO QUESTION BY
THE HEARING SO FAR AND NOW WE
HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE HE HAS
CATEGORICALLY DENIED ALLEGATIONS
AND AGAIN, IT’S A QUESTION OF
WHETHER HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH.
THAT’S SOMETHING THAT I THINK
THE SENATE HAS A DUTY TO
DETERMINE.
DETERMINE. ALL SENATORS WHO ARE GOING TO
VOTE ON THIS NOMINATION NEED TO
KNOW THE FACTS OF THIS
PARTICULAR SITUATION AND NEED TO
BE ABLE TO REACH A CONCLUSION ON
IT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO
HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEIR VOTES.
AND RUSHING THIS TO JUDGMENT,
HAVING THE HEARING ON MONDAY
WITH AN EMPTY CHAIR FOR DR. FORD
AND THEN GOING TO A VOTE IN THE
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND A
VOTE ON THE SENATE FLOOR, WOULD
BE JUST A TERRIBLE THING FOR THE
INSTITUTION OF THE SENATE AND
FOR THE SUPREME COURT ULTIMATELY
IF HE’S CONFIRMED AND FURTHER
INFORMATION COMES OUT.
>> I HAVE JUST RECEIVED A
WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM CHUCK
GRASSLEY, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
COMMITTEE, AND MY SPEED READING
OF IT, I DO NOT SEE CHUCK
GRASSLEY SAYING THAT THIS
HEARING WILL TAKE PLACE ON
MONDAY.
MONDAY. I’M GOING TO RELY ON THE CONTROL
ROOM TO READ THIS CLOSER THAN I
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO.
BUT I WANT TO READ TO YOU, LISA,
THIS PASSAGE THAT CHUCK GRASSLEY
HAS IN HERE ABOUT THE FBI’S ROLE
IN SENATE CONFIRMATION.
CHUCK GRASSLEY IN HIS WRITTEN
STATEMENT SAYS, THE FBI HAS
INDICATED TO THE COMMITTEE AND
IN PUBLIC STATEMENTS THAT IT
CONSIDERS THE MATTER CLOSED.
THE FBI DOES NOT MAKE
CREDIBILITY DETERMINATIONS.
CREDIBILITY DETERMINATIONS. THE FBI PROVIDES INFORMATION ON
A CONFIDENTIAL BASIS IN ORDER
FOR DECISION MAKERS TO DETERMINE
AN INDIVIDUAL’S SUITABILITY.
THE SENATE HAS THE INFORMATION
IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW-UP WITH
WITNESSES AND GATHER AND ASSESS
THE RELEVANT EVIDENCE.
LISA, YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
>> WELL, I THINK IT’S POSSIBLE
SENATOR GRASSLEY HASN’T READ
THAT MANY FBI INVESTIGATIONS
THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. I’VE READ DOZENS OF THEM.
THEY BEGIN WITH FX-86 INCLUDING
QUESTION 20, ALLOWS THEM TO LOOK
INTO CRIM NAT HISTORY, CRIMINAL
BACKGROUND OF ANYTHING THAT’S
HAPPENED SINCE THEY WERE 16 OR
OVER.
OVER. IT ALSO INCLUDES A DETAILED
EXAMINATION IF SOMEONE DOES
BRING FORWARD AN ALLEGATION THAT
SOMEONE ISN’T WORTHY OF A PUBLIC
OF PUBLIC TRUST TO EXAMINE THOSE
FACTS, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE
MATTER IS.
MATTER IS. AND YOU KNOW THAT FROM JUST
RECENT NEWS HISTORY WHEN ROB
PORTER, ANOTHER HATCH STAFFER,
FORMER HATCH STAFFER, WAS FACING
A DENIAL OF HIS BACKGROUND
INVESTIGATION, SECURITY
INVESTIGATION, SECURITY CLEARANCE BECAUSE OF ALLEGATIONS
THAT HE HAD HIT HIS SPOUSE.
THAT’S CERTAINLY NOT A MATTER
THAT INVOLVES A CRIME THAT THE
FBI WOULD ORDINARILY
INVESTIGATE, BUT IT’S THE TYPE
OF MATTER THE FBI DOES
INVESTIGATE AS PART OF
DETERMINING WHAT THE RECORD
REFLECTS ABOUT SOMEONE’S
SUITABILITY FOR PUBLIC TRUST IN
PUBLIC OFFICE.
PUBLIC OFFICE. THIS IS ESSENTIAL THE TYPE OF
MATTER THE FBI COULD GATHER
INFORMATION ABOUT, GATHER IT
INDEPENDENTLY AND NEUTRALLY AND
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, THE
FULL SET OF INFORMATION ABOUT
THIS MATTER TO THE SENATE AND
THAT’S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
>> AND, LISA, I JUST WANT TO
BACK YOU UP ON THIS.
AS A STAFF DIRECTOR OF TWO
COMMITTEES, ENVIRONMENT OF
PUBLIC WORKS AND FINANCE, I SAW
THESE FBI REPORTS.
I SAW WHAT THEY DO.
I SAW WHAT KIND OF EVALUATIONS
THEY MAKE AND WHAT KIND OF HELP
THEY TRY TO GIVE SPECIFICALLY TO
THE CHAIRMAN.
THE CHAIRMAN. THEY DO NOT LEAVE THINGS TO
GUESSWORK.
GUESSWORK. THEY DO NOT JUST PRESENT AIMEN
YU OF COLLECTED DATA AND-- A MEN
COLLECTED DATA.