(laughs)
- Oh God.
- Do you have daddy issues?
(laughs)
- Dammit - Can I have this one?
(laughs)
(playful music)
- Hi you two.
How do you know each other?
- I'm Lia and this is my dad, Marcus.
- Because we're in a pandemic
we have plexiglass in between you two.
How do you feel about that?
- Yeah, it feels like home.
(laughs)
- When did you go to prison?
- I fell under the first set of mandatory minimum drug laws
in 1991.
I was 18 years old when I was getting sentenced.
I was on the phone with her mother when her water broke
on October 13th
- Lia, do you wanna go fist?
- Sure. Okay.
First question, why did you go to prison?
- Why did I go to prison?
Because I broke the law.
- Can you like elaborate more on-
- On?
- What you mean by that, like what happened?
- It was the conscious scandal.
The flow of drugs came through Mexico up to California.
And then by the time it got up here, we were so infatuated
with something so different and got involved in it.
I made some bad choices
with no positive influencers there to, you know
help guide my decision making.
Oh man, do you have commitment issues because of me?
- I do have commitment issues
and I honestly couldn't answer that if it's from you or not.
I don't, I can not remember, I'm gonna take a shot, because-
How did you meet my mom and did you find her sexy?
(laughs)
- It's just kind of bizarre.
I met your mother when I was 16.
and as soon as I had seen her,
I just knew I wanted to be around her
and I was never he same and she was too.
And there was something pure in that.
That's why I always say you're genuinely made out of love.
You know?
- Could you ask him if you were a mistake?
(laughs)
- I'd like to know, was I a mistake?
- Um, there are no accidents.
- Come on, be real.
- Actually, that was as real as it is.
- I told you- - I was a mistake,
I was a mistake.
- No, I think the mistake was
thinking we could use a child to find love,
but you, not a mistake.
Has family ever spoken ill of me?
Did you come to my defense?
I mean, that's not even a real question.
How could you, can I really skip this?
I don't like that one,
cause that's so unfair to her.
- We don't have to worry. - I'm gonna answer.
What I was told was that, he didn't care.
You know, he was shit
you know, he went to prison on the day that I was born
but that was by choice in that he didn't want
he chose to not be there.
- That hurts.
I'd never would have thought
that I would be framed in such a negative light.
This kind of makes you wanna drink.
My face is hot.
- Since you missed giving me the talk
Oh God,
- What talk?
- The talk,
- This one?
(laughs)
Oh, man.
- Now is your opportunity.
Do it or take a shot.
Please take a shot.
- What would your sex talk have been like?
- I wouldn't have had a talk with her.
I would have modeled it.
No, that sounded kind of weird.
- Yeah. - Having good relationships
and understanding how a respectful man would act.
- Next question.
(laughs)
- Oh God.
- Do you have daddy issues?
- This is a bad question.
Yes I do.
- Which issues?
- I'm like notorious for like putting a face on
and putting, like shielding everything.
I don't show people my emotions
so I just handle it myself
which explains the severe anxiety, you know, so-
Do you think your sentence was deserved?
- No, It wasn't deserved.
Why are we criminalizing people with addiction issues?
That's a health issue it's just mendacious
it's a deep seated lie who a few benefit from.
And then people are just, their lives are ruined.
I don't like talking about that
cause I have strong views on that.
Real strong views.
Why did you accept me into your life?
I didn't get out of Pelican Bay.
I wasn't a murderer.
- I guess just wanting to know more.
I just, I don't know
I just wanted a sense of validation of who I am.
- Did you get it?
- No, cause you're weird.
(laughs)
- Well, I don't have orange hair
- shut up.
- Oh man.
Who comes up with these questions?
Does your mother approve of us having a relationsh-
Oh man
- No she doesn't, but I'm fine with that
because at the end of the day
it's me and your relationship.
What's one moment you wish
we could have experienced together?
- I don't, I think all the moments we shared
have been so monumental.
I think it was just like dope.
- Stop it, stop it.
(laughs)
- For real right?
- Yeah
- Don't do it, you got - I promised myself
I wasn't gonna cry.
- right there
(mumbles)
- Have you ever felt anger towards me?
- With us being not connected, no.
But as we've connected
there are certain things that you've done
- That annoy you? - That angered me
and annoyed me, I mean-
- Can you give me an example
so I can have a learning moment?
- First of all, you talk too much.
(laughs)
I'm just kidding.
- No, you aren't.
- I'm not, I'm not kidding.
(laughs)
- That's cold.
- I don't like this question.
- No I didn't do it.
It wasn't me.
- Do you love me?
- I adore you, yes, of course.
- That makes me feel weird.
- Why is that weird?
- I'm the most awkward person with love.
- So the challenge is, Lia, can you say I love you?
- Oh,
I mean, honestly, no.
(laughs)
- That's okay, mama.
Don't pressure her.
- Thank you, was this interesting?
- Very awkward, interesting, good.
- I don't know why she wanted to do it with the world.
I'm still confused by that
because she would not talk to me about, you know,
I think it was a bold artistic expression, you know.
- Are you two glad you are in each other's lives right now?
- Yes. - Yes.
(laughs)
- Through glass.
- Oh my God, stop.
(laughs)
Oh, it moves.
- okay