DAVID:
SO IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
COLLUDING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA
COMPANIES TO CENSOR INFORMATION
IN ORDER TO PUSH PRESIDENT
BIDEN’S AGENDA?
THIS IS THE CHARGE JUST FILED IN
CALIFORNIA AGAINST FACEBOOK,
TWITTER, PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THE
U.S. SURGEON GENERAL ON BEHALF
OF A DIGITAL STRATEGIST NAMED
JUSTIN HARDEN.
HARDEN HAD HIS SOCIAL MEDIA MOST
RECENTLY LOCKED FOR MERELY
POSTING AN INFO IF GRAPHIC THAT
ILLUSTRATED THE LACK OF RESEARCH
FORCING KIDS TO WEAR MASKS.
DOES HE HAVE A CASE?
WITH ME NOW IS THE AUTHOR OF
"WOKE INC.."
GREAT TO SEE YOU, GREAT TO MEET
YOU VIRTUALLY AS WE ARE HERE.
DO YOU THINK THE ADMINISTRATION
IS COLLUDING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA?
>> I THINK THEY IMPLICITLY ARE.
LOOK, I WROTE ABOUT THIS FIRST
IN JANUARY IN THE "WALL STREET
JOURNAL" IN AN OP-ED WHERE I
ARGUED THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT
THREATENS PRIVATE COMPANIES TO
BE ABLE TO DO INDIRECTLY WHAT
THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT DO
DIRECTLY, THAT CONSTITUTES STATE
ACTION.
HERE YOU HAVE NOT ONLY THOSE
GOVERNMENT THREATS WHERE THEY
EFFECTIVELY SAY WE’RE GOING TO
BREAK YOU UP OR CENSOR YOU IF
YOU DON’T TAKE DOWN THE HATE
SPEECH OR MISINFORMATION WE
DISAGREE WITH, THERE’S ALSO THIS
FORM OF IMMUNITY CALLED SECTION
230 THAT PREVENTS YOU FROM BEING
HELD LIABLE.
THERE’S BOTH A CARROT AND A
STICK.
THERE’S DIRECT COORDINATION, AND
NOW IT’S NOT A CONSPIRACY
THEORY, NOW ACTUALLY JEN PSAKI
WAS JUST BOASTING ABOUT IT EVEN
IN THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS --
DAVID: THAT’S TRUE.
>> THERE’S NO DOUBT IN MY MIND
THEY’RE WORKING HAND IN GLOVE
TOGETHER.
DAVID: THIS WASN’T EVEN AN
OPINION PIECE THIS GUY WAS
CHASTISED FOR, IT WAS A DATA
POINT, SOME DATA INFORMATION
ABOUT MASKS AND THEIR
EFFECTIVENESS OR SOMETIMES
INFECTIVENESS.
AND IT JUST BRINGS TO MIND IF, I
MEAN, I COULD -- YOU KNOW,
THEY’RE PRIVATE COMPANIES, YES,
THEY HAVE SECTION 230 THAT
PROTECTS THEM, MAYBE THEY DON’T
DESERVE IT.
BUT IN THIS CASE, IT WAS JUST
INFORMATION, RAW DATA THAT WAS
CENSORED BY THE COMPANIES.
>> YEAH.
AND I SPEAK AS SOMEBODY WHO WAS
TRAINED AS A SCIENTIST MYSELF.
THE SCIENTIFIC THE METHOD
DEPENDS ON OPEN DEBATE, ON FREE
SPEECH, IT DEPENDS ON
SKEPTICISM.
AND IF HISTORY TEACHES US
ANYTHING, IF THE LAST YEAR OF
COVID TEACHES US ANYTHING, IT IS
THAT MOST OF OUR CURRENT BELIEFS
WILL EITHER BE PROVEN FALSE OR
MODIFIED IN SOME WAY, BUT THE
ONLY WAY WE’RE GOING TO GET
THERE IS TO BE ABLE TO TALK
ABOUT THAT DATA, TO TALK ABOUT
THE FACTS OUT IN THE OPEN.
AND I THINK THIS NEW APPROACH
WHERE THERE’S A MINISTRY OF
TRUTH CENTRALIZED IN SILICON
VALLEY FURTHER EMPOWERED BY THE
GOVERNMENT TO DECIDE WHAT’S
RIGHT OR WRONG IS NOT ONLY A
THREAT TO DEMOCRAT, IT IS A
THREAT TO PURSUIT OF SCIENCE
ITSELF.
DAVID: WE HAD THE CEOS OF THESE
COMPANIES MEETING BEFORE
CONGRESS, AND AT LEAST ONE
SENATOR WHO WAS SUPPOSEDLY
GRILLING THESE PEOPLE, GRILLED
THEM ABOUT NOT CENSORING ENOUGH,
SAYING YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY
CENSOR MATERIAL THAT QUESTIONS
CERTAIN ASPECTS OF CLIMATE
SCIENCE, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE JUST HAD A PIECE IN THE "WALL
STREET JOURNAL" WHERE YOU HAD
WRITTEN AN ARTICLE BY BJORN
LOMBORG, CLIMATE SCIENTIST, AND
THAT QUESTION, THIS THING WE’RE
HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT TODAY
AS HE SURVEYS THESE HURRICANES,
SAYING IT’S BECAUSE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE, IN THE, BJORN SAYS THE
FREQUENCY OF CATEGORY 3
HURRICANES SINCE 1900 IS
ACTUALLY TRENDING SLIGHTLY DOWN.
A JULY NATURE PAPER FINDS THE
INCREASE IN STRONG HURRICANES
YOU’VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT ARE,
QUOTE, NOT PART OF A
CENTURY-SCALE INCREASE, BUT
ACTUALLY, A RECOVERY FROM A DEEP
MINIMUM IN THE 1960s AND
1980s.
SO WHAT THIS SENATOR WOULD WANT
IS INFORMATION LIKE THAT,
SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION, TO BE
CENSORED COMPLETELY FROM THE
INTERNET.
>> LOOK, I THINK THIS IS A
REALITY THAT WOULD MAKE OUR
FOUNDING FATHERS ROLL OVER IN
THEIR GRAVES, BECAUSE THE WORST
OF WHAT THEY IMAGINED WAS THE
GOVERNMENT DIRECTLY CENSORING
PRIVATE PARTIES FROM BEING ABLE
TO SAY SOMETHING IN THE OPEN.
WELL, NOW THEY’VE FOUND A TRIP
WIRE IN THE SYSTEM, BECAUSE
THERE’S THIS THING CALLED THE
FIRST AMENDMENT THAT PREVENTS
THE GOVERNMENT FROM BEING ABLE
TO DO IT, SO THEY’RE GOING
THROUGH THE BACK DOOR TO GET
PRIVATE COMPANIES TO DO THE
GOVERNMENT’S BIDDING INSTEAD.
AND I THINK THIS IS A DANGEROUS
PATH.
IT IS A DANGEROUS PATH TO
TOTALITARIANISM, FULL STOP.
AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN
CENSORING COVID SO-CALLED
MISINFORMATION OVER THE PAST
YEAR IS COMING FOR YOU IN
RESPECT TO CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU
WERE CORRECT TO POINT IT OUT.
DAVID: WHAT DO THE COMPANIES GET
OUT OF THIS?
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
DEMOCRATS WHO WANTED TO SLAM THE
COMPANIES THINKING THEY GOT TOO
BIG, APPLY VARIOUS FCC LAWS
AGAINST WHAT IT IS THEY’RE DOING
OR WHATEVER, SEC LAWS AS WELL,
REGULATIONS.
DO YOU THINK THEY THINK THAT THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION MIGHT GO
EASY ON THEM IF THEY SING TO
BIDEN’S TUNE?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS CRONY CAPITALISM 2.0.
IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF AN
ARRANGED MARRIAGE.
I ACTUALLY THINK IT’S MORE LIKE
MUTUAL PROSTITUTION WHERE
SILICON VALLEY HAS ESSENTIALLY
SAID THE OLD LEFT THAT USED TO
BE SKEPTICAL OF CORPORATE POWER,
AS LONG AS WE MODERATE OR CENT.
SOR CONTENTING IN WAYS THAT YOU
LIKE THAT YOU DON’T WANT TO SEE
ON THE INTERNET, THEN YOU WORK
WITH THE FRIENDS IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO LOOKING THE
OTHER WAY WHEN IT COMES TO
LEAVING OUR MONOPOLY POWER
INTACT.
IT IS WHAT’S LED TO THE WOKE
INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WHICH IS FAR
MORE POWERFUL THAN EITHER BIG
GOVERNMENT OR BIG BUSINESS ALONE
BECAUSE IT CAN DO WHAT NEITHER
GOVERNMENT, NOR BUSINESS CAN DO
ALONE. DAVID: YOU’RE BRILLIANT.
DAVID: YOU’RE BRILLIANT.
THE BOOK IS "WOKE INC."