Okay, listen, it brings me no great joy to tell you that I knew this would happen.
I knew antisemitism would rear its ugly head against impeachment witness. Lieutenant Colonel
Alexander Veneman. As soon as I found out when I was prepping for yesterday's hearings,
reading his bio that he's Jewish, I just knew that this was going to happen. Alexander Veneman,
his family is a Jewish family from Eastern Europe that immigrated to the United States.
Much like my family moved from Eastern Europe to Argentina. Then subsequently my parents
moved to the United States. It's a very sort of similar and common, uh, um, uh, historical
element for many Jewish families. And there is also a common antisemitic trope in very
general terms about Jews, which is the theme of dual loyalty. It's either dual loyalty
to where you live and to Israel. Even if you've never been to Israel, as is the case for many,
many Jews. Sometimes it's dual loyalty to the country you live and your birth country
for Veneman, it happens to be the country of Ukraine.
And that disgusting Republican lawyer who has been doing the questioning, Steve caster
or Steve castor oil as I refer to him, uh, he brings it up. And this is a section where
Republican council is just repeating over and over that Veneman had been offered a position
with the Ukrainian government to foment this idea of dual loyalty absent any evidence and
ignoring of course the reality, um, that Veneman is an active service military member for the
U S that he was blown up in 2004 in Iraq, although as he said yesterday, very respectfully,
did not get injured nearly as badly as other people that were with him. And this is the
dual loyalty trope that Steve caster tries to push
after I spoke to, and I believe it was, uh, the deputy, um, our deputy senior director,
John Erath was there. Um, I spoke once, I mentioned it to both of them. I don't believe
there was ever a followup discussion. Okay. Um, so it never came up with dr Copperman
or Dr. Hill following that conversation I had with Dr. Hill. I don't believe there was
a subsequent conversation and I don't recall ever having a conversation with dr Copperman
about it. Okay. And did you brief a doctor or, sorry, director Morrison when he came
on board? No, I completely forgot about it. Okay. And subsequent to the may trip, did
mr Danny look ever ask you to reconsider? Are there any other offers?
No. Okay.
Uh, when he visited for the July 10th meeting in, um, with ambassador Bolton, did it come
up again? It never came up again. Okay. Uh, and did you ever think that possibly if this
information was, um, you know, got out that it might create the, at least a perception
of a conflict that the Ukrainians thought so highly, I've yet to offer you the defense
ministry post? Um, you know, on one hand, but on the other hand, you're responsible
for Ukrainian policy at the national security council. So frankly, it'd be a, it's more
important about what my, my, my American leadership, American training command, uh, thinks then
any of the, and this is a, these are honorable people. I'm not sure if he meant it as a joke
or not, but it's much more important what my, uh, my civilian, uh, white house, national
security council chain of command thinks more so than anybody else. And frankly, if they
were concerned about me being able to continue my duties, uh, they would've, they would've
brought that to my attention. Dr. Hill, uh, stayed on for several more months and we could
continue to work to advance us all seem,
this is a straight up old antisemitic trope. The dual loyalty of these crafty, untrustworthy
Jews. They might have citizenship here or there, but loyalty is to their religion over
country or loyalty is to their home country over their new country. And it comes in many
forms. It's not even new here. This is the same sort of suggestion we saw on Fox news
as Laura Ingram show on Fox news a couple of weeks ago. Remember this,
this is buried in the New York times piece tonight, but I found it very interesting.
Um, he's there. He's a decorated Colonel by the way and the Iraq war, but because Colonel
Veneman emigrated from Ukraine along with his family when he was a child and it's fluent
in Ukrainian and Russian, Ukrainian officials sought advice from him about how to deal with
mr Giuliani though they typically communicated in English. Now wait a second, John. Here
we have a U S national security official who is advising Ukraine while working inside the
white house, apparently against the president's interest and usually they spoken English.
Isn't that kind of an interesting angle on this story? Find that astounding.
And you know, some people might call that espionage. This is what they're doing. They
support the military, but they are taking an active duty Lieutenant Colonel who served
in Iraq and is clearly telling the truth as he sees it and saying he might be a spy, he
might be dually loyal to Ukraine or he might be more loyal to Ukraine. It seems he might
have alterior motives here. This will not stop until we remove them. They will not stop
until we put them out of office. They cannot challenge the facts. So they attack the messengers
in every way. What are they wearing? How do they talk? Who did they vote for? Where were
they born? What loyalties might they have? It is disgusting to watch and they don't really
support the military. The military are merely props to Republicans to be used this way or
that way.
However, it's convenient and this is getting into the disloyal Jew territory that has been
so ugly for so long all over the world. Now, Gordon Sunland is also Jewish, and as we are
filming the Gordon Sunland testimony is still going on and Sunland his opening statement
was devastating to Trump. Giuliani and all of them throwing everyone under the bus saying
this was not some vague thing nobody knew about. This was a clear bribery attempt. Explorative
quid pro quo, I would guess we'll see that between now and tomorrow's taping, there will
have been right wing media, Republican elected officials. I don't know who, who will pull
some of the same tropes in with Gordon Sunland. They won't say it's because he's Jewish, but
it will just so happen that once again, when it's a Jewish person that we owe it to. Who
are they actually loyal to? We've got to investigate this a little bit further.
It happened with Inman and it will probably happen with Sunland as well. We have a great
bonus show for you today. We're continuing to follow Elizabeth Warren's issues, seizing
control of her Medicare for all position. Is it too late? Has the ship sailed or is
she still in time to take control of that ship, so to speak? We will also talk about
a company that wants people to review cannabis products. It's a full time job and it's an
interesting story about the broader industry that can be formed around cannabis legalization.
That will be very interesting. I am also, I didn't, you know could've covered this yesterday.
It's not really appropriate for the regular show, but so many people emailed me and said,
David, you've got to cover Eric Swalwell, his fart gate. You just have to that we're
going to do it on the bonus show. A Pat was insistent that I talk about fart gate on the
bonus show, so we will talk about that.
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