THIS TRIAL WILL LAST TWO WEEKS.
ELIZABETH: TERRIFIC JOURNALISM
AS ALWAYS REPORTING, DAVID
SPUNT.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON.
FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR JIM
TRUSTY.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON.
WE LOVE YOUR INSIGHTS ON THIS.
DOES THE NATION, DO YOU FEEL
THIS CASE COULD BE A HINGE
POINT, THE NATION FOR THE FIRST
TIME WILL SEE HOW BAD HILLARY’S
TRUMP RUSSIA WAS?
>> I THINK THEY WILL GET A
FLAVOR OF IT, BUT NOT A FULL
TASTE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS JUDGE
MADE IT CLEAR ON PRETRIAL
RULINGS, THE PRETRIAL MOTIONS,
HE DOESN’T WANT THE CASE TO GO
TOO FAR AFIELD WITH THE FALSE
STATEMENT.
THE EMPHASIS IS WHEN SUSSMAN
WENT TO HIS FRIEND AT FBI,
WHETHER HE MISLED HIM
REPRESENTING A CLIENT.
WE DON’T WANT TO RUN DOWN ALL
THE RABBIT HOLES.
HE WANTS TO FIND OUT WHERE IS
THE INVESTIGATION WHEN IT COMES
TO HILLARY.
ARE THERE PEOPLE FROM PERKINS
COIE IN HARM’S WAY.
ARE FBI LEADERSHIP IN HARM’S
WAY.
I THINK JUDGE WILL KEEP THAT
BOTTLED UP.
WE’LL GET A LITTLE TASTE BUT NOT
A TON OF IT.
THE DEFENSE CAN OPEN THE DOOR A
LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING THE
MATERIALITY OF THE FALSE
STATEMENT.
WE’LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
I THINK THE JUDGE’S INTENTION
ARE TYPICAL AFTER GATE KEEPER OF
A JUDGE, KEEP EXTRANEOUS STUFF
OUT WHICH MEANS WE DON’T HEAR
THE FULL STORY.
ELIZABETH: DURHAM’S TOP
ATTORNEY, JOHN DURHAM’S CHIEF
PROSECUTOR, SAYS HILLARY’S
STRATEGY WAS TO CREATE NEWS,
THIS FALSE TRUMP RUSSIA DEBUNKED
BY MUELLER AND MUELLER REPORT.
MUELLER DID HAVE A LOT OF CRIMES
THAT WERE CHARGED BUT NOT
COLLUSION.
SO CREATE THIS, GET THE
GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE IT.
THEN LEAD BACK TO THE MEDIA.
WE KNOW ALREADY A NUMBER ABOUT
PEOPLE WILL BE PLEADING THE
FIFTH.
I THINK A NUMBER OF FBI
OFFICIALS, CIA OFFICIALS, JIM,
ARE GOING TO TAKE THE STAND, THE
WITNESS STAND.
COULD THIS TRIAL LAY OUT A ROAD
MAP FOR FUTURE CHARGE INVOLVING
CONSPIRACY?
COULD DURHAM PICK UP ANYTHING
THAT IS SAID AT TRIAL AND USE
THAT FOR A LATER CHARGE?
>> WELL, HE COULD BUT I DON’T
THINK YOU WILL HAVE LIKE THE
BIGGEST TARGETS TESTIFYING IN
THIS TRIAL.
YOU WON’T HAVE HILLARY, COMEY OR
McCABE.
I STEP BACK ONE THING YOU
CHARACTERIZED, THE WHOLE STORY
IN A NUTSHELL THIS IS SHOPPING A
FALSE STORY.
THIS IS NOT OPPOSITION RESEARCH
THIS IS CREATING A FALSE STORY,
SHOPPING IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
AND THEN CIRCLING BACK TO THE
MEDIA AND ANNOUNCING HEY, THIS
IS REAL BECAUSE THE FBI IS
LOOKING AT IT.
SO REALLY IS A HISTORIC LOW IN
THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM,
TO HAVE A CAMPAIGN DO SOMETHING
AS SLANDEROUS AS THIS, WILLFUL,
PREMEDITATED TO WIN AN ELECTION.
I HOPE PEOPLE WILL PAY ATTENTION
TO IT.
AGAIN I DON’T THINK WE’LL GET
THE FULL FLAVOR.
JUST A TASTE IN TERMS OF WHAT
HILLARY AND OTHER PEOPLES
INVOLVEMENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
ELIZABETH: WE KNOW JOHN DURHAM
HAS TO PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE
DOUBT CRIMINAL INTENT FOR LYING
TO THE FBI.
THERE IS ENOUGH PROBATIVE
EVIDENCE HE FEELS TO CHARGE,
BASICALLY TO GET A GUILTY
VERDICT FOR MICHAEL SUSSMAN.
WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT,
THE CONSPIRACY TO DEFRAUD THE
GOVERNMENT, BASICALLY,
ESSENTIALLY IN THE END, DEFRAUD
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ON THE PART
OF THE HILLARY TEAM.
THERE IS NEARLY 330 FBI EMAILS
THAT SHOW FBI OFFICIALS DID
UNDERSTAND MICHAEL SUSSMAN’S
CLIENTS WERE DEMOCRATS.
THIS IS ABOUT HILLARY
MISDIRECTING THE FBI.
SO THAT IS WHERE, THAT IS WHAT
THE NATION IS NOW WAKING UP TO,
IT SEEMS WHEN YOU SEE THE
COVERAGE OF THIS.
SO I KNOW THAT JAMES COMEY, TOP
PLAYERS AS YOU POINT OUT WILL
NOT BE CALLED.
ARE WE GOING TO SEE ANYTHING
ELSE BEYOND THE IGOR TRIAL IN
OCTOBER.
BEING CHARGED BY FBI DURHAM?
>> IGOR DANCHENKO IS HIGHER
PERCH OR CONNECTION TO THE
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ATTORNEY
GENERAL BARR GIVE SPECIAL STATUS
TO JOHN DURHAM.
WHEN HE WRAPS IT UP HE IS
SPEAKING TO INDICTMENT OF PEOPLE
IN HIGH POSITIONS OR WRITING A
MEMO THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT IS NOT
THERE.
AS WE’VE SAID ON THIS SHOW A
COUPLE TIMES, LIZ, THE BIG
INTECH GREAT TEST FOR THE