hello and welcome to this week's movie math where well well well they'd like to
say well actually some of you even do as well and you've had cause to by the way
to be fair that the movie star is dead but lo and behold not just one but two
of them burned brightly this weekend as I've told you before Paul Newman
famously said cast me in the right role and I am priceless and I think clearly
Tom Hardy and Lady gaga were cast in the right roles but interestingly both find
themselves in very different situations let's discuss so while it seemed for a
hot minute that after being discovered by none other than Christopher Nolan
although Nolan's career hasn't gone quite as I'm sure he imagined either
right what's your next move Nolan stop taking so long to decide
I'm sorry Dunkirk didn't win any awards but we kind of told you it wouldn't I
mean I think it was fairly obvious from from like immediately you know that well
this that's a whole different conversation and I know some of you are
like but Grayson deserved Oscars well it didn't get any anyway Tom Hardy was
supposed to be a movie star a few years ago as you might recall right and but it
was this as if the actor was working against what he was meant to become from
covering his face to making his voice unintelligible although that was even
loving at him for this movie although that was just like um a phase it went
away pretty quickly and then some I wasn't even talking his movies right and
then he picked a lot of small projects that never really got any traction but
venom a role that he picked because his son is such a fan it's the first smart
career move he has ever made took him a long time and sure enough and also it's
cuz he didn't do it for his career again he did it for his son but sure enough
fans showed up right they were just looking for a reason to support you Tom
thanks for finally giving them one and despite a weathering 32% of Rotten
Tomatoes which we will talk about moment surely he had a huge win and what's
really exciting here actor wise is that at a time when actors are steering clear
of fan driven franchises that basically aren't the MCU Hardy has just proven
that it can still be very good for your career to play a comic-book character so
needed so badly needed for the genre because he not only just earned the
biggest solo opening of his career but shattered shattered the record for
October opening weekend's topping the likes of Sandra Bullock and Matt Damon
it's so exciting and yes the Corrine defend dangos poll
80 percent of audiences who showed up did so because of Tom Hardy
so it's his win that's very very again exciting for him so who was it that
showed up while venoms audience was evenly spread out ethnicity wise it's
skewed unusually male for this day and age at 68% I would probably chalk that
up to the to the character of venom although women it's interesting women
over 25 love the movie the most which means potential audience growth via word
of mouth and headlines like this and what will that word of mouth be I'm sure
some of you are already like I'm telling everyone it sucks grace I mean there
we'll talk about that but I want to tell you that venom as I'm sure you saw
earned a B+ cinema score which sounds pretty good until it's pointed out as
the trades did but that's this I mean a lot of other movies have gotten a B+
cinema score right but so did Justice League Suicide Squad the amazing
spider-man 2 and spider-man 3 some kind of help it's the kind of help you don't
want that I was like get the hell away from me other B+ movies right and while
those all opened even bigger than venom their second weekend drops were not
pretty now what I find interesting about this situation is that while plenty of
fans are online complaining about all four of those movies you couldn't miss
them I see skimped negative chatter from fans about venom in fact quite the
opposite and whenever I see negative chatter it usually kind of seems a
little bit agenda-driven you know like give the rights back to Disney Marvel
that ain't gonna happen is you're gonna see in a
moment so ask for Menem though the verdict isn't in yet at least box-office
wise until next weekend where it doesn't have a lot of competition and if this if
the fan support is indeed real venom will hopefully have a hold of around 50%
if it has anything in the sixty percentile it'll be forever associated
with those other movies so let's hold our breath
venom fans still this is a huge win for Sony as venom is the studio's seventh
biggest opening weekend of all time and look at all those spider-man titles they
ain't never given up this franchise since then I've told as I've told you
before I was told by somebody who works at Marvel on the down-low that Sony owns
part of the character of spider-man not just the film rights because you know
Marvel was in a bad way when they made that deal and Sony took advantage of
them so it's that's why I think that's why I
believe Disney what Disney Marvel was willing to work with Sony with the Tom
Hollands stuff because they know they're never getting that character back you
know they can't wait Sony out and as you can see spider-man is webbing together
the entire studio all rights and that's why they're gonna keep going with this
to this franchise and venom is also the seventh biggest opening for 2018 so far
with Amy Pascal beating out Kevin Feige gi's ant-man and the wasp that has got
to feel good Kevin are you sure you don't want to play with Amy's toys you
sure about that yeah right she's like I've got some pretty good toys over here
too Kevin hmm now this is also great for Hollywood
overall as it creates another golden release date the first weekend of
October Warner Brothers has already called dibs for next year with the Joker
which I think will have similarly boffo results and lost something I think would
be hard to derail that movie quite frankly and then Fox Marvel so I guess
now Disney has dibs for it for 2020 and speaking of Disney some of you pointed
out to me Bob Iger is already trying to poach Lady gaga
oh and you know what I can see her as maybe a reimagined Ursula and the
upcoming live-action Little Mermaid right seriously she would kill that role
and be a great choice with her strong ties
to the LGBT and also drag community some people have said maybe a drag queen
would be great in that role and this gives Disney a chance to I think please
everybody and again she would knock it out of the park
like good mean like a Little Mermaid's and ale Lady Gaga team up oh that would
be very good you know so I'm sure Bob Iger is doing what he can to make it
happen alright so now Warner Brothers has been trying to log on down for weeks
now as we've been seeing offering her DC roles that are quite frankly beneath her
so now that she's proven she can bring in an audience he'll have to step up
their game if they want to keep her at the studio although again to compete
with an offer from Disney it's gonna be tough but while the industry and the
media seem to be dead seem to be dead set against Tom Hardy and venom they
have welcomed Gaga with open arms and so of audiences with a stellar opening
weekend and an a cinema score this will be interesting look interestingly those
skewed more female at 66% so you had a classic case of counter-programming this
weekend ah it still looks guys going to see venom women going to see a stars
born but maybe in the weeks ahead as as women maybe check out venom guys might
start to check out a star is born and the only place where stars born lagged
was a diverse audience where it was overwhelmingly Caucasian and you might
recall that when Clint Eastwood was going to direct this fourth retelling of
the story he had wanted Beyonce for the lead still this isn't you know sure no
water coulda right I think this turned out fantastic huge win for Warner
Brothers Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper and as the star is born
hopes to not only have likes at the box office it definitely has something for
its awards campaign arsenal and that's a great box-office headline I would say
that this fairy tale ain't over but all three of them have worked damn hard to
get here and so let's see how far they can get themselves now the one sad note
and otherwise joyous boxed up this weekend was Fox's the hate you give
which opened in limited release with a very poor per theater average which will
not help it during awards season and with all due respect to Amanda
bird I'm curious how many of you of you are a mantle of Stenberg fan she's
supposed to have an online fan base and we aren't seeing it because this makes
her 0 for two when it comes to attracting an audience and media
attention both crucial and she in both cases is also working with popular you
know or at least you know well-known respected source material with an
audience now as for the overall top 10 Warner Brothers enjoyed another smaller
victory with small foot which enjoyed the smallest opening in the top 10 in
just its second weekend but the biggest drops were from last weekend's other new
releases night school and Hellfest which puts a bit of a dent in Kevin
Hart's own movie star status but as for this upcoming weekend again as you can
see venom has little competition and therefore no one to blame but itself if
it doesn't deliver a solid second weekend hold so if you didn't see venom
this weekend do you think you might see it this coming weekend how about a star
is born and it's worth noting that for both movies with such big box-office
beautiful headlines it will help both of them on streaming down the line as even
the most hesitant doubtful movie goer will be tempted to click to see what all
the fuss is about at the lower price point and that's this week's movie math
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