hey what's up everyone morey croson here and today we're going to be comparing michael norman's 4345
and randolph ross's 43.85 and we're going to start the video right now
okay so these are two of the best 400 meter times in college track history and so we have randolph
ross here on the right and we have michael norman here on the left and we're just going
to go ahead and kind of break down both these guys here they're obviously going to be uh and
already are in ways uh stars within the track and field community and so just going in and looking
a little bit deeper into you know some of their running techniques and just giving you a better
understanding of what they're doing at the 400 level i think will only help in being able to just
better understand how to master that race and do a great job of you know really conquering that 400
meter which is obviously one of the most difficult things to be able to run in track and field so i'm
going to start here on the left with michael norman and you can see you know with his foot
contact here we're hitting the ground at 17.63 right we just want to get an idea of what the full
contact time is and he's off at about 1773 so he's staying within that pretty quick for contact time
we've gone over this before with the 400 meters a lot of times what these guys have is really quick
for contact time or you know quick foot contact time but a little bit longer with their transition
time or their swing phase the amount of time spent off the ground we have 27 we got 0.37 for michael
norman which isn't too long a lot of guys are getting up into like closer to 0.4 when they're
going through and they're both 6-1 so i figured this would be a good thing to be able to compare
for them and i'm going to use both of their right legs as well so we got 2 9 6 6 4 randolph here
and he might be a little bit longer there but he's about at that same time point one maybe
point one one at the longest we're gonna just go with the point one uh within the foot contact
time and then swings back down and touches at one six so yeah he's got a .4 exactly on his stride
length or sorry on his time spent off the ground that transition phase he's a little bit more of
a you know has a little bit more of a rotation happening in that heel you know when he's landing
which you know could be something that he could definitely improve on right like to be able to
try to analyze where you could be more efficient if we're looking at his left side here and how he
lands on that left side very efficient movement pattern where on the right side not as efficient
obviously he's still you know doing a great job one of the best in the world but you know just
looking at some of the small things that can maybe you know small details that can maybe help him in
the long term one of the things that stands out to me for really both of them um is just the power of
that outside arm when going through the curves it just seems like that's something that really
needs to be very very strong and still getting plenty of range through there you know you might
have a tendency to kind of limit that pullback when going through the you know turns there
but you could tell with those guys they're doing a great job of being able to maintain
great arm position even through that last uh curve there now we're going to go to the end let's see
right about right there this is obviously going to be a lot better for you know this
side if we look at michael norman again and the reason i said that was more some of the other
races that i was watching but even on this race he does a great job pumping that that outside arm so
you know that would be an important thing to make sure you're you are able to do
if you're a 400 meter watching this is make sure you maintain
a solid arm swing as you're going through those curves especially with that outside arm so we
could use that one here so it's going to be left side you know we got a little bit better film
so let's use left on both of them here randolph is hitting at 291 and i wouldn't be surprised if
you know randolph has actually faster in the last hundred it might be a little bit
slower in the first 300 than michael norman but might be faster in the last hundred wouldn't be
surprised by that but i guess we'll see here with the actual it looks like he's definitely
off by 0.01 here so now he might have like a 0.09 for contact time
and then back at 0.41 so stride length looks to be about the same or you know strike turnover
looks to be about the same on both of them so 0.4 you know is where he was at in the first 200 and
here it is about the same at the last 200 now the last 400 here um 0.4 with that that turnover speed
and then we're going to say norman's landing at 0.86
and then he's off maybe at 9 8 you know it looks like it's almost point o right there
um which would be 0.14 so somewhere between 0.12 and 0.14 which is for contact time
and then landing back down at point three nine right so he's maintaining a really fast
leg cycle right so you know i guess if it's a little bit higher um in terms of his
um the amount of time spent on the ground point one two he's still maintaining a pretty fast foot
turnover so it's kind of a difference in you know randolph ross where he got a little bit faster on
his foot contact time but maintained the you know similar leg cycle was still so cycling in the
legs really quickly where michael norman ended up getting a little bit longer for contact time you
know point one two maybe even point one four um and then was able to still maintain a fairly fast
uh turnover time right because we said 0.4 maybe 0.41 in terms of the turnover time for randolph
ross where michael norman even at the beginning was that like a 0.37 ish and now even at the end
he's coming in it's still like 0.39 so he relies a lot more on having that really fast turnover might
spend a little bit more time on the ground where uh and what that'll end up doing we can have a
little bit longer for contact time it'll make it so you pick up more distance per step and that's
one of the things that does stand out with michael norman is he does look like he's just picking up
a ton of distance on each one of his steps he has a really long kind of back swing going on
with his legs right and that makes it so um you know he's able to really generate a lot of force
and really looks like he's picking up a lot of distance per step it's hard to to really know for
sure just you know in order to do that you have to really look into how many steps he took and
when he took all those steps and everything like that and i you know just haven't gotten that level
of these breakdowns yet um but you know when we're looking at randolph ross he's a little bit quicker
with the for contact time and doesn't have as much of a you know he's eating up as much
ground on each one of these steps right he's a little bit more of just like a pure like
almost like a sprinter but you know he's able to sprint from 400 meters because he just maintains
this level of just consistency all the way through uh with his foot contact time as well
as with his turnover time where you see michael norman he's a little bit more of a you know
gets it out in front and has a really great you know first 200 and how much time is he's able to
you know generate that that turnover and then when he gets to the end of the race it becomes a lot
more about how much distance can he pick up per step so he kind of changes how he's running at the
beginning he's a little bit shorter with his steps a little bit faster with the turnover and then as
he gets to the end he really starts to lengthen out that that turnover maybe to be able to finish
kind of be able to counteract that lactic acid there's a lot of different ways of being able to
interpret that of why he would want to do that uh randolph ross you know he
i don't know if he has that same level of like lactic acid buildup you know he might just be able
to just power through no issue because he just has such a consistent stride all the way through
which is something that's very rare you know you don't see guys that are just able to maintain
you know for 400 meters the same foot contact time and the the same you know turnover rate so
um very impressive by being able to achieve that obviously the foot contact time did get a little
bit longer it seemed like or sorry it actually got a little bit shorter there in that that last
100 which is really even more impressive right i was able to actually spend less time on the ground
still was picking up about the you know had about the same turnover speed but was spending less time
on the ground each step which again i think is super impressive and shows why he was able to you
know make a such a big mark i mean obviously out of these two michael norman does have the faster
time in the ncaa record with the 4345 but still 43.85 is you know not bad and something that you
know i'm sure these two will will be able to race each other in the very near future and i'm sure
that's going to be an amazing race when that actually happens you know i will be watching
for sure and probably doing a breakdown shortly afterwards so as always guys thanks for watching
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