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>> LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES GET
RESULTS EVERY DAY BUT THERE
ALSO DEPENDENT ON THE PUBLIC
URGING AWARENESS AND IF YOU SEE
SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING BUT SO
OFTEN IF SOMEBODY WITNESSES
VIOLENCE OR HARASSMENT THEY DO
NOT SPEAK UP BECAUSE THEY FEAR
JUDGMENT OR RETRIBUTION BUT NOW
ONE WOMAN IS EDUCATING OTHERS
ABOUT THE RIGHT WAY TO
INTERVENE AND GET RESULTS.
JOINING US NOW IS ATTORNEY AND
SPEAKER KELLY CHARLES COLLINS.
WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU
HER.
>> INTO AN ESTIMATE YOU.
>> FIRST OF ALL ME TALK ABOUT
THE BYSTANDER EFFECT, WHAT IS
THAT?
>> IT IS THE CONCEPT THAT THE
MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND THE
LESS LIKELY WE ARE AS
INDIVIDUALS TO INTERVENE.
BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING
AND WAITING FOR THE OTHER
PERSON TO STEP UP.
>> IT’S A REAL CASE TOO.
SOMETHING THAT REALLY HAPPENED
TO A PERSON AND BECAME A TERM
AFTER THAT.
SHE WAS ATTACKED AND PUBLIC AND
MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE WALKED BY.
>> IT WAS A CASE OF KITTY THAT
HAPPENED IN 1964 AND SHE WAS
GOING HOME AND A MAN CAME UP
ANDHE BEEN DRIVING NEXT TO HER
ACTUALLY SHE SAW HIM AND HE
FOLLOWED HER AND STABBED HER.
SHE WAS SCREAMING AND THERE
WERE PEOPLE IN THE BUILDINGS
AROUND AND THEY HEARD IT.
AND SOMEONE SUPPOSEDLY YELLED
OUT TO HIM AND HE RAN AWAY.
HE THEN CAME BACK HOWEVER AND
SHE COULD KNOCK IT IN HER
BUILDING.
SHE WAS STUCK AND HE STABBED
HER AND RAPED HER AND SHE
EVENTUALLY PASSED AWAY.
SO THE ORIGINAL STORY WAS THAT
37 PEOPLE HAD SEEN IT BUT NEVER
SAID ANYTHING.
LATER IT CAME OUT THAT SOMEBODY
MAY HAVE CALLED HER SOMEBODY
SAID SOMETHING THAT IS WHAT
REALLY STARTED THE SOCIAL
PSYCHOLOGISTS LOOKING AT THIS
CONCEPT OF THE BYSTANDER
EFFECT.
>> AND SO WHY DID YOU GET DRAWN
INTO THIS AND WHY IS THIS YOUR
PASSION EDUCATING PEOPLE ABOUT
THIS.
>> IS AN EMPLOYMENT LAWYER FOR
20 SOMETHING YEARS I SEE THIS
EVERYDAY.
I TRY THESE CASES ARE WATCHMAN
SUPERVISORS AND COMPANIES AND
BUSINESS OWNERS DON’T RESPOND
TO THINGS HAPPENING IN THE
ORGANIZATION.
ALSO PERSONALLY I HAD A FRIEND
WHO TOLD ME SHE WAS BEING
ABUSED AND ASKED ME TO KEEP IT
SECRET AND I JUST DID.
I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING.
AND THEN I HAD A PERSONAL
SITUATION WATCHING MY SON WHO
IS BEING ABUSED BY A POLICE
OFFICER AND A YOUNG WOMAN WHO
PUT ALL OF HER FEAR ASIDE AND
REALLY JUMPED IN TO HELP HIM
AND IT JUST REALLY INSTILLED
AND REINFORCED IN ME THE NEED
FOR US ALL TO STAND UP AND
SPEAK UP AND ACT OUT BECAUSE
THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO
REALLY HELP EACH OTHER.
>> AND SO WE SIT IN THE
WORKPLACE WERE LIKE RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE TO DO TRAINING ON
HARASSMENT AND ETHICS AND CODES
OF CONDUCT.
WE NEED MORE TRAINING AND
AWARENESS DO YOU THINK TO HELP
COMBAT SITUATIONS LIKE THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY BECAUSE I DO NOT
THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
EVEN AS A LAWYER WE’VE ALWAYS
DONE REACTIVE TRAINING.
SOMETHING HAPPENED
SEXUAL-HARASSMENT AND BECOME IN
AND DO SEXUAL-HARASSMENT
TRAINING.
WHERE BYSTANDER INTERVENTION
TRAINING IS MORE PROACTIVE.
REALLY GIVING PEOPLE AND
EMPOWERING THEM SO THAT THEY
CAN INTERVENE WITHOUT IT
I TRAINED HUNDREDS OF HR
PROFESSIONALS AND BYSTANDER
INTERVENTION IT WAS REALLY
INTERESTING TO HAVE THE
CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND FOR
THEM TO BE ENLIGHTENED AND SAY
MAN, I REALLY DON’T THINK I’M
SUPPOSED TO SAY AND ESPECIALLY
WHEN THERE IS GENDER
DIFFERENCES.
IF IT IS A MAN WHO IS BEING
HARASSED WE REALLY DON’T SEE
ANYTHING BECAUSE REALLY HE
COULD HANDLE IT SO THAT WAS
REALLY ENLIGHTENING FOR THEM.
>> WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY
PEOPLE HAVE THE ATTITUDE OF I
DO NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED AND
YOU MENTIONED YOUR FRIEND
ASKING YOU TO KEEP ABUSE A
SECRET AND YOU DID THAT.
THAT SEEMS TO BE LIKE ALL OF
OUR GO TO REACTION.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS AND
HOW CAN WE BREAK OUT OF THAT
PSYCHOLOGY AND DO WHAT WE NEED
THEY ARE FEARFUL.
WE ARE FEARFUL OF MAYBE HER OWN
SAFETY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SURE
WHAT THE SITUATION IS.
WE ARE IN FEAR OF JUDGMENT.
IF WE ARE IN THE WORKPLACE WERE
IN FEAR OF RETALIATION.
BUT IN OUR SILENCE LIES
COMPLICITY.
SO IF WE ALLOW THESE THINGS TO
CONTINUE AND THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE PERPETRATING IT, THAT IS
WHERE THE POWER LIES IN THAT IS
NOT SAYING ANYTHING.
SO A LOT OF TIMES WE THINK IT
IS NOT OUR BUSINESS AND I WILL
NOT GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
BUT IT’S ALL OF OUR BUSINESS
BECAUSE THE QUESTION WE ALWAYS
HAVE TO ASK WHEN WE SEE
SOMETHING IS WHAT IF THAT WAS
ME, BUT WHAT IF THAT WAS
SOMEONE WHO I LOVED.
HOW WOULD I WANT SOMEBODY TO
RESPOND TO THAT.
AND IF WE ASKED THE QUESTION
EVERY TIME, THEN WE WILL MAKE
DIFFERENT CHOICES.
WE WILL REALLY RELY ON OUR
MORALS TO MAKE DIFFERENT
DECISIONS.
>> OKAY, SO HOW DO WE REMEMBER
THOSE FOR C IS YOU TALK ABOUT.
>> VERY EASY AND THAT IS WHAT I
WANTED TO GREETED THIS WAY.
THE 4C’S TO CONNECT WITH THE
VICTIM OR WITH OTHER BYSTANDERS
WHO ARE AROUND TO ENROLL THEM
KIND OF LIKE ON THE 9/11
PENNSYLVANIA HE SAID YOU GUYS
READY LET’S ROLL.
IT WAS TO BRING EVERYBODY IN.
CREATE A DISTRACTION.
IT COULD BE EASY.
YES, STOP, ENOUGH ANYTHING LIKE
THAT TO PULL SOMEBODY AWAY.
THIRD IS TO CALL FOR HELP IN
THE FOURTH IS TO CAPTURE THE
INCIDENT.
BUT NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF
PUTTING IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
REALLY FOR CAPTURING THE
EVIDENCE TO HELP THE PERSON
WHO’S BEING ATTACKED OR
HARASSED.
>> I FIND E!
NEWS A LOT TO SEE WHERE THERE
WILL BE SOME SORT OF INCIDENTS
OF VIOLENCE OR HARASSMENT AND
PEOPLE ARE RECORDING IT AND
SENDING IT TO NEW STATIONS AND
NOT HELPING.
WE ALWAYS SAY TO EACH OTHER WHY
DIDN’T YOU PUT YOUR PHONE DOWN
AND HELP THIS PERSON.
I FEEL LIKE THERE IS THIS
SYNDROME ALMOST OF PEOPLE
LIVING LIFE THROUGH THEIR
SCREENS AND NOT REALIZING THAT
IT IS REAL LIFE.
>> I TALK ABOUT THAT #LIKE
STONE SAVE LIVES.
BECAUSE WE ARE ALWAYS RECORDING
SO.
I SAW SOMETHING YESTERDAY IN
PHILADELPHIA AND THIS WOMAN WAS
BEING BE IN LIKE BRUTALLY
BEATEN IN THE STREET.
THERE WAS ALL THESE MEN AND
WOMEN AROUND AND ONE GUY WAS
WALKING BY LAUGHING AND ONE WAS
FILMING IT AND NOT ONE PERSON
INTERVENE.
IT IS LIKE HOW COULD YOU EVEN
DO THAT BUT WE ARE ALWAYS JUST
RECORDING BECAUSE WERE IN THE
SOCIAL MEDIA.
BUT WHEN I SAY CAPTURE THE
INCIDENT THE OTHER THINGS TO DO
IF THERE’S A LICENSE PLATE AND
CAPTURE THE LICENSE PLATE OR
LANDMARKS OR CAPTURE DATES ARE
THINGS THAT CAN BE USED LATER
BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU SEE THE
INCIDENT, UNLESS YOU KNOW
EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS YOU DO
NOT KNOW.
SO YOU’RE REALLY CAPTURING THE
INCIDENT FOR EVIDENCE AND FOR
INFORMATION ARE FOR PEOPLE’S
ENTERTAINMENT.
>> YOU COULD END UP SAVING
SOMEONE’S LIFE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> SO WHERE CAN PEOPLE CONNECT
THEY CAN CONNECT ON ME ON MY
WEBSITE KELLY CHARLES
COLLINS.COM.
ON TWITTER HRLAW ATTORNEY AND A
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