Essential patient.
One of them without a shirt.
Freddy Krueger this place
has lead by the old goal, in five
verses which doesn't have for us the opportunity to get into
Liverpool territory inhabited by just the potion. Uh, races.
I'm Forrest,
three defeats away from home. They have one away from home,
all season Liverpool. They've already lost more games than
they did in the whole of last season
Darrin, how many things are going wrong for them.
Everything you have to say right now, the biggest thing in
consistent
as you said it, there
put unbelievable performance in against the Champions, and then
they go to the team. That's at the bottom of the table, and
they can't stir in two parts together.
Your Club is trees. Try and you've seen him try. A
different tactics. Obviously injuries of not help youth in
attacking options
but they just can't seem to get it right in the middle of
the park. There off it. There's no real intensity. There didn't
really get after anybody, I think the drop-off in salads
form as well.
The balance of the front three that's off. You saw him at
the weekend, play down the middle. You don't want to play there.
He's wasted down the middle. Obviously Diaz has been out,
people don't like to hear it, but my name is no longer there
so that their balance of that front throu. Again, backed off,
Virgil Van Dyke solving, that little bit of a standards are
not quite where they were and they're getting punished every
single time. So, so at the minimum,
Gotta find a way of getting this team playing,
but first and foremost need to find consistency, but what
might help them this season is that I think the whole league
is inconsistent other than a store. The minute you have to
say, the whole leagues inconsistent. So they might
find themselves on this horrendous run, but it's trying
to win together,
they're on the verge of top for again. So
it's not all doom and gloom, but
we're not used to seeing us from Liverpool. So and they got
there and I in my opinion is that? They've they've won
the league. They've been there. Yeah, won the Champions League.
Always gone. Deep in a competition, always challenged main city.
It's almost were early in the season but it's gone.
It's gone. The met they're not going to win the Premier League
this year,
the motivation and the driver these players. It's about what
what can we go for? Can we fight for? Do we want to fight
for top for now? The club would say will we take what's on
offer
lowest hanging fruit? If that is it, if it's Champions
League, we cannot be out of the champions league, but as
a player, you know, when you full for the tire, when you go and
write to the end,
right to the wire and all of a sudden has taken away from you.
So early, and I know is a lot of points to be playful.
I mean, they don't stupid these players and nowhere to fines
and certainly not as Jürgen klopp. He's looking at
the league and he's looking at city and and how they're playing.
If it was, if it was taught them up there or a snow, who
would net, who haven't done it. You think back we have fight
this. We can fight this but they bought in Harlan as well
on top of everything and it's almost like rubbing salt
in the wounds. I think it's very difficult for him.
I don't think
it's going to be a statement. I don't think you can collapse it
next season. I think it is a conversation to be Had I'm not
sure you're going to pick them up from where they are now
and make some challenges. Again, I really don't unless
possibly did win a chain link, which a cape. Why do you think
you could? Well, he says that he doesn't do that. I mean,
he's very good and he drives any takes the teams to
where he thinks he can get the most out of them.
There's not really a drop off, if we think this is consistent
where we think they might drop off to outside of the top. Four
is going to be a fight to get in there and a moment. I think
they still might do it.
Capable or they've got the players to
he keeps talking about the injuries, what they've got,
everyone has injuries yogin, you know, stop looking for
excuses. You played night and forested bottom of the league.
You should beat them with your B Team,
you know? You know, you lost a lot of games where you should
have won the games too full, and for instance, you draw it.
You know, you've got to beat these sort of teams,
no matter what the injuries. Yeah. If you're planning
a snowman cities and you've got a few injuries in an excuse, they
got a brilliant result if they're in set against a easy
to pick yourself up. When your playing Man City, when you go
again and you gotta pick yourself up to come. Play
a team who's been
promoted to the league. Everyone's being
difficult to motivate yourself. When you're not going for
the title, they're not going for the tile, but someone has to
get into their head. It's important. This club is in
the Champions League next year because otherwise, their find
ourselves out of it.
And then it's a rebuild, a total rebuild. The only
the only thing to say there's that
in lockdown season. When they only just made into the top
four with, at two games or one game to go, I think till
the end of the season. The next season, they came back and they
Just just by Manchester City,
got to a Champions League final there, was it? There was a
step up then, obviously, that coincides
with fans, coming back into the ground and how much they can
kind of drawn on that energy. But does it feel as though this
is
the end of a cycle? Or is it a
as Tim saying which they can't come back from under the clap?
Or is it a period of renewal Rejuvenation?
I think you're both right. I think it does feel like the end
of a cycle. I'm more think in relation to some of the players
rather than Um I think Liverpool be absolutely crazy
to get rid of clock whenever they get rid of him. And I put
that state I
think there'll be a conversation had to say
perhaps you've taken this as far as you can
and yoga might say the same to them and go for a new
challenge. I just it's just my hunch. I just when I look at
him at the moment I just feel like that's going to be. I'm
not suggesting they're sacking the show. Maybe Matt, you'll be
driving your crate would say that they were surprised
because he extended his contract, didn't he?
And they said, they were surprised. They were planning
for him to go. At the end of this season, was that? It was
that it was at the end of next season, his contract was up
being
an extra Penny when Stevie Gerard's ready?
Last kind of bit wonky,
but
I think as far as clop is concerned, there are so many
things he has changed about Liverpool away from the pitch.
The mentality, the ethos of standing the way that they're
perceived from outside the club and around the Premier League
and around Europe, there are superpower again,
and I just think if you lose him, you lose all of those
things. You might bring another manager in, who can do the job
by, can you get another?
A manager in who can connect with the club and the community
that surrounds it and a passion and and and so many very very
intricate things that he has managed to connect with
during his time at the club.
But for me, I think
that some of the players at Club of reach, end of the line.
There are players were injured, who are always injured and
I wonder if a decision needs to be made not just about them.
But in terms of the recruitment, you know, do we
now have to look at Players whose into your records
are better. Again, that's that. Something that's put on clop
and his staff is that there are lots of
soft tissue injuries. There are lots of injuries that
could be put down to
over playing. There's a lot made of the fact of how much
they ran, how much they were put through in in preseason
when you look at the Liverpool players who were out, I mean
obviously you can't do anything about an ear infection. You
can't do anything about. Yeah bad challenge.
That comes in that's when you had
your frustration but caters been injured a lot. Yeah.
Mm. A tip has been
Into their lot Tiago right out of a
really
bad injury record and by and don't let top players go. If
they can help you and you have to look at the fight, they had
to let to
eventually allow Lewandowski to be prised from their grasp and
it goes to Barcelona and schools. Go for fun.
Now, we're should
Darwin una should be stupidity after he got sent off
against Crystal Palace because he could have gone on a run.
That would have really seen him be able to kind of scored
a goal, is to help them out of this difficult situation. But
I think you're right, I think
There has to be a review of all of these things at the end of
the season because it's a cycle that
one of the parties has come
to the end to. I don't think it's necessarily Club. I think
it's the players by I hear what you're saying. At least I just
one more point. I remember when people were saying about
pep that he doesn't stay at clubs for a long and when they
were going through a difficult time around this period last
season, I think they got smashed up by Lester and for
Tourette. Yeah, 52 52. Yeah
and people said oh you know, has he
Come to the end of the road,
and can he do it without a striker? And all of these
things? And he did, you know, Ninety Six goals he scored. And
they Wonder
titled, you know, by a street. And, and then, they regenerated
an added heightened,
his
recruitment
because as you said, they were the injuries,
they need to
The point is were saying, yes,
but as far as City are concerned that you could look
at City, you can live at, look at Liverpool in, you can see
two clubs that need the guys who
are in control because their profiles, gone up the cattle
run player. They're attracting has gone up the intensity of
the two teams.
I don't think anyone else brings that same intensity to
Liverpool that clock. Does two things where you're saying, yo,
young club, I'm not sure he looks at his team or Squad in
the same way. Pep would have looked at his, when, their
behind, I think Pepper would always have
Have firm belief that they could get him out. I'm not sure
you're going to look City squad like that anymore. I agree.
I agree. This is what I mean about. All of the injuries and
he kept criticizing his team while standing there in
disbelief that they can't produce the goods.
The other thing is with the recruitment is Michael Edwards,
still not really been replaced. You know,
really, it's very interesting what Jillian does
in the transfer market and if he's working hand-in-glove with
the manager he needs to because their recruitment has never
been a scattergun approach.
It was always been very structured
and they go out and get what they need. You know, Van Dyke
and Alice was great in the negotiation which is actually
getting that getting the players that they want to. So
the people who targeted the players and the people who
would be part of that
playing conversation, are all still in Play. No. Negotiator
has gone up. We can all, we can all
see a good player
especially the players they're looking for.
Everyone sees that,
it's about getting them over the line as the hardest bit
and they've lost one of the best in the business at that.
Yeah, the difficulty is that there was lots of talk linking
them with Jude, Bellingham
and then suddenly, the likes of
Manchester City are interested of Real Madrid in Liverpool,
can't compete with the Liverpool on struggling
financially, but they can't compete with
nation owned clubs and with a real Madrid to have all that.
That's a spike, their recent Financial the top of that. Part
of problem is that Liverpool when they got Alice on they
could afford to wait for him because the other clubs won't
where they are now,
you know? And so they were able to wear and they got him
when Van Dyke arrived arrived.
January, find the preceding few months. They were losing games,
they should have won. And lots of people were saying, they
must surely be Defender out there that can improve
the side, rather than
waiting for Van Dyke,
but they waited and the you arrived and had
a transformative effect or the team. I don't think they can
afford to wait that right now because Spurs are stronger,
Arsenal stronger, United a resurgent at the moment Chelsea
are stronger, so they can't afford to wait, but as you
rightly say Real Madrid,
they've got sharmini already,
they're going to get, they're going to go for Bellingham and
if they go for Bella, A man at him to an already amazing team
would Rodrigo and versus vinicius jr. And so many
others.
If you're bending have you got really decide. That's what
I have seen is just until the top four because if they don't
finish his other top four you've got no chance of getting
the players like Bell in them and these these players that
they linked with. So I think
it's going to be a big
window for jet in January. I think after the World Cup
see what happens and at the end of the season but
when you are compete with matter to see you can pretty
much the best team. One of the best things on the planet if
not and they could pretty much pick a juice over they wanted
and you've been level
up level pegging for so long.
And then you see them at Holland
and you're thinking what we're just about hanging onto the top
floor. But don't you think, do you think that City there at
the results?
There's such a good squat.
If they come looking for you do you think to yourself,
am I going to get again?
But they do. Yeah, two players do get a game, don't they
like? So really a good squad.
It's quite a tight as I get a regular run of games in so
much, as
there are players that Liverpool.
And even Real Madrid would say,
I know I'm going to play every week,
it's not necessarily a good example.
With that I do you percent of them though? Yeah, Fabian
Delph, I had obviously a villa, you would, if you were just
a dummy and played every minute every day
and he's quite pleased.
But but did he play
a lot for those medals?
He did he played, he knew we weren't going to go there and play
every every game, but he certainly played in one season.
He played lot over 30 games at left-back, you know, we know
our let left-back is a
man city. It's a Midfield player was perfect for it,
but pep just fitted him into into the team when he needed to
and the rest of the time he was restrictive via injury, but it
still play enough to
get the medals and I think that he was pleased that you took
that leap and rather than play every game. Team was not going
to win when they play so many games at that top level that
they Champions League, they always go deeper
to The League Cup, FA Cup and the Premier League.
Whoever they can get, will get more than a foot plus games and
whatever competitions over a season. So if you're
Bellingham, you would go as you'd still go there rather
than live for Real Madrid. I don't like guys, Real Madrid.
I don't think he's able to go there. Not now, I can go next
year, but at the
moment, I don't think you've got the quoted to able to
entertain him unless they get rid of one of the superstars
will do my next. It will be next summer. So so then we
became what they got to make way for him because the
They can't they can't talk about boss. Sorry. What
was your first job with the
remedy? Is your first
Real Madrid. Yeah. That Delta sure.
Yeah. I like they're insane if they're out if there are other
Champions League anyway. Absolutely no chance. I'm going
there.