This week, the foreperson of the
Georgia Special grand jury investigating
former President Donald Trump in the
2020 election did several interviews.
And while she didn't name any name,
she did hit.
They recommended multiple indictments.
Joining me now is Chuck Todd,
Moderator of NBC's Meet the Press.
So Chuck, what did you make of the
media tour the four person did,
which was definitely different,
and could former President Trump's
team use this to their advantage?
It was head scratching and it certainly
gives the Trump defense team something to
to try and and use to essentially whether
it's get the indictments thrown out,
say there's a mistrial,
say the jury pool is poison. You know,
I I don't know if it'll be successful,
but they she certainly these interviews
have given them something to use
to object if if a new grand jury is
impaneled and indictments happen.
My guess is, is the District Attorney,
Miss Willis is probably wishing
the four person didn't do this.
I'm guessing the judge is wishing
the four person didn't do this,
but there was no law against it.
You know they were done.
And this is what made this entire
special grand jury report, I think.
Uh, a precarious thing to do, right?
Which is they wanted to see
if they had a case.
I think the DA's found out they have a case,
but now you have to go to
another grand jury to do this.
It's certainly they've put the case at risk,
and I think the four persons
put the case at risk.
Whether it does kill it, I think,
well, we don't know for sure,
but I think it's fair to say it's
put the entire thing at risk.
Sunday on Meet the Press,
you will speak with both national
security adviser Jake Sullivan as well
as Alaska Senator Dan Sullivan, who is.
Serving on the Armed Forces Committee
is the one year anniversary of the
Russian invasion of Ukraine and we
are seeing new sanctions on Russia
plus a peace plan floated from China.
So what's the feeling in Washington on where
this war is now and where it's heading?
Well, on one hand I think that.
That certainly the Biden administration
feels as if our Ukraine policies
working and that this that so far
things have been successful, right,
because Russia didn't win in the first
year and they're losing and they've had to
change their change their goals in this war.
And that's because the West
support of Ukraine is working.
But the question is are we supporting Ukraine
enough to essentially hold off the Russians?
Or are we giving them enough
to actually win this war?
And I think that's what the next six months,
I think we're gonna find out.
Are we doing enough for them to win this war?
I could tell you there's a lot of
a growing chorus now of Democrats
who are very supportive of Ukraine,
who believe the administration's
not moving fast enough,
whether it's F sixteens,
whether it's more weapons that you know.
The goal is not to just help
Ukraine survive at this point.
The goal is to make sure Ukraine
wins this war because anything less?
Only creates more problems around the globe.
It's like here in Georgia,
it has now been six days since we
heard the news of former President
Jimmy Carter going into Hospice care.
Looking at his long career.
There's a lot to talk about
with his presidency, certainly,
but also many layers to his
post presidential life as well.
You know, it's an enormous amount.
I've, I've been obviously a lot of
us have been doing a lot of thinking,
a lot of researching, a lot of talking
to people about his presidency and his
post presidency and there's sort of two.
I think amazing aspects to
Jimmy Carter's legacy #1 is.
There's not a single other president
in the 20th century who truly you could
say was a citizen president. You know,
he didn't come from a political machine.
He didn't come from some political elites.
It wasn't. It was it sort of a somebody who
was incubated and sort of, oh, you know,
this person is going to be president someday,
run for Congress, run for this, do this.
You know, he really did it his own way.
And and he really was sort of in the
way he ran his campaign for president.
He brought a pillow and a blanket and
wanted and stayed at supporters houses.
So you had that and then his
presidential legacy.
Post presidential legacy,
he used his platform not to make money.
A lot of former presidents
have gone ahead and made gun,
given speeches,
make a lot of money.
And not to say that he hasn't used
his platform to raise money to to
fund his efforts at the Carter
Center and things like that.
But I do think he provided quite
the blueprint for any future former
president of what kind of how
you can use that platform.
You know,
you sort of get handed this celebrity
influencer platform and you can use
it however the way you want to use it
and he chose to use it to try to deal
with human rights and give people homes.
And he did it for 40 years and and he
always did it with a smile on his face.
So I think that that and that aspect,
that's a,
it's amazing that his post
presidential legacy in some ways
overshadows his presidency.
But you know that post presidential
legacy is quite impressive
and he certainly has left
a lasting legacy there.
Chuck, I do want to ask you one final
question here after a bit of a social
media campaign which included an
appeal from a Georgia former Georgia
player rather the the White House.
Invited the National Championship
Bulldogs to the White House, Chuck.
It's no surprise that the
Georgia fan base was passionate
about getting their team there.
But what do you make of all of that?
I they weren't invited.
They took a campaign to get him invited.
I didn't understand how it
wasn't an automatic invite.
Well, I think that's what a lot
of folks are wondering. Yeah.
Yeah, that. That's a head scratcher
a little bit, I know that.
You know we're still sort of the White
House is still sort of shaking off
the COVID cowb cobwebs a little bit.
So getting teams to come in and it's
they haven't had the big college
teams come in and do it before but I.
That's a head scratcher,
and I'm going to be really
politically cynical here,
especially when you're talking about.
The most favored football team and
perhaps the single most important
battleground state in American politics.
Just saying,
very good point there, Chuck.
Thank you so much as always.
Meet the Press airs Sunday
morning at 10 on 11 Alive check.
It's good to be with you again.