there was a really interesting debate about feminism
on HuffPost live it was also really wild when people started screaming at each
other
and I wanted to share with you guys this is Gavin MacInnis
who is a writer and cofounder love vice
and Eunice talking to some professors here I had to chop it down a little bit
because it goes on for a long time
let's listen and then we'll discuss why are you wimps taking it for granted that
violence is bad in that
being macho it's bad how we got here this idea this beta male
being powerful an excuse for his is what
when East 30 years old you're going against forty thousand years revolution
and if you want to talk about baseless stupid bounce punching someone in a bar
that is plummeting for the past 50 years
and just they were cultured cows with guns gun violence is all gone down
so totally irrational stupid violence is only going down some
this idea that there's all the shootings are on the rise it's a touch
its a quantifiable net but the idea men having to the top
sorry but where the breadwinners breadwinners for the majority
take their in the Western world and yeah there's an element by literally
hot yes in running a business just the other day coworker with going out
but but but you move this to rush orders other jobs it
and I had to come back and say also can you miss what the fuck shit
okay remove the director jobs pay more money it was almost like
a fistfight with work and I had to do that in order to generate income to pay
my
bills to pay my children okay so this
in a possible if that men have is crucial to our survival
and I have been together I don't think it's not crucial big big Evan
is it is it is in society changing in the moment where women have the
toughness as well
and women are becoming the breadwinners in every day are just ate already went
on it
which otherwise childbirth ending the mass text so much the women are forced
to pretend to be men
expanding your stuff that their miserable study after study has shown
feminism is a woman let happy don't they're not happy in the work force
for the most part I church 7 percent I would get them prepared
like not having kids they want to be CEOs they like staying at the office all
night working on a proposal
and all power to much by enforcing that is the norm
you're pulling on his own away from what they naturally want to do
and it's making me miserable ok if they don't like fat
it I wanna I wanna I wanna let mary ann jahaan this 53 to have a Rand
yeah to say at the fitness after need are happy and I don't think you're going
to minority and there
a new study showing exactly the opposite that when you actually have couples
when you have minute but both are happier when they actually have accepted
that there is no such thing as
any characteristics there is no such thing as women don't want to do this in
a minute what to do this
that's exactly the source up policing don't want to ever
I to answer you can be aggressive on the outside but
but the idea here is that there's nothing about being her big breasts for
being successful
its all pleaded to be an email as I think they need you in trying to make
sure that you can
if that person be good addresses are your family if you choose
you contributing to society it's getting permission net
this idea that there's something about being a all that makes you feel better
quips better able more likely to see or did you hit me in the face
shown on our society it should be a fairly simple conversation that there
are good things for people to do that
who everybody's lives make society better less
silence more interesting create more clout more sexy
that since she talking about everybody can do you and it's just a side
as I was saying weakness and fear and and at least some kinda
a bigger evidence thus I don't have to be like this
I demanded say like this although you were doing things and different
are messing with nature and I really need you to stop that's what's up
witnessed
sure it's possible for them to be a house husband who are perfectly happy
injured a functioning but you people have taken as the norm now
and ish it's ridiculous you look ridiculous okay
when I when I think I guys you won't even
the whites or take the last name they they stay at home mother wife
makes money and they stage come to happen I'm sure a tiny percentage are
by when you swing the pendulum so far away from the natural world
you all look like a bunch of goals have a governor
you're confusing the natural world with the societal norms that were established
only only a hundred years ago in terms and taking someone's name are a hundred
years ago you're not
these these aren't this isn't the natural order that is an evolution
who shows us how to natural order i'm talking about forty seven years
still talking with a generation and I feel these people okay
I finished forty-something Bush doing push these women have been pushing their
careers
standard party that okay they wanna stop taking hormones
China argue much trust comida a
can we get a free concert again at there if they're making twins because they've
taken so many hormone despite all the sound and all its
because they waited too long and I I can't see it to happen she left like
your name but
I I know you don't have in Marianna Marianna we we have that we have to go
and I why I want you to respond to an end and rappers out
what do you think it's interesting because kevin is in fact presenting
what's wrong that's going on right now it's insistence that things have to be a
certain way
well as evidence that I'm not expecting any for you
fuckin idiot oh yeah and it looks like it's exactly what it looks like now why
I'm so scared
why is he so frightened at home like they are don't have kids
so I made you something what is here its demand of
nothing should be writing about that it's the only thing people need to be
scared up
is the boy yeah were simply imposing their way and say it has to be this way
extending to be concerned about people's happiness anymore truly happy even some
think that really is in the SS
no I'm cautious when to change yes it's not as a shopping hungry because society
tells you not see
so the fact of the matter is that our society is getting more equal
men are doing things they didn't you or am I doing this they didn't do before
ever in a healthier happier society
there's no way it should be criticizing yeah
whether you agree or disagree with that guy you have to admit he's a massive
douche and also allows read about him earlier one other thing said that he was
like the
godfather of hipster dumb all that makes me hate you
even more you pathetic loser but are short break this down in a in a couple
quick ways here
but when it comes to feminism here's the thing feminism
totally makes sense if you defined in a way that says women should have the same
opportunities as men right so in other words
but in the pay gap for example this is the perfect go to example of sexism
writing is rather indisputable
that women make 77 cents to a man's dollar for the exact same Workbench is
not OK
that shit absurd and pathetic and stupid and we should do something change that
immediately right so if you're talking about fighting that of I will be on the
front lines about battling a
it means that I'm a feminist by definition a call me the minute I don't
care
right are all when it comes to job discrimination how often times women
don't get a fair shake it when it comes to getting a job in a male-dominated
society
more unemployment there whatever the case is and they don't have the same
opportunities I get it I'm
leading a battle and I agree with that but the only
/url area were feminism loses me is the radical feminism and I always think I'm
a story that we covered on the show I believe it came at a France or Germany
but where there was a Barbie Playhouse that somebody decided they were going to
make its gonna be their business and
you know little girl Marie little boys that they wanted you can go there and
they see all my got all the different barbie exhibit on your way out a
real-life Barbie white house right
and a feminist in that area protest at the opening out and try to get a
shutdown
a cenar know you are but trying to mold the mines and indoctrinate these girls
that they have to act a certain way
twitch are spano sometimes a little girl want to play with Barbie no matter what
direction you want a question
is what it is we should ban Barbie because you think it's indoctrination
and the irony is the actual indoctrination is one the radical
feminist held little girls
be Mb of your feminism beer of you with a stick right
speed of probably wasn't the best term to use
beat away your feminism don't you know if you actually feel like a feminine
by get your identity is feminine your you shouldn't everybody should be
masculine like
that's where feminism losing me and that's where it gets kinda radical and
there are such thing as radical feminists
but the idea is to pic the right battles in
you know fight the right things and there of course I agree with them is
what I think anybody who disagrees with in that respect would be wrong
and the final point here look there are biological differences between men and
women so for example men have more testosterone
women have more estrogen obviously we have different channel also write like
these things are obvious right but outside of that
there's really no difference mad that that's the reality up and sold for
people to say
all you women actually wanna do axe no they don't you made that up
and by the way you can see a brown make sure that that's not true
so in certain it with certain types animals
the women are the dominant once and the men in the past and 101 Thursday Orman
nurture the kid yada yada for all in it varies throughout the animal kingdom