IT IS 5:00 IN NEW YORK, THIS IS
"THE FIVE." IF YOU HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT
IF YOU HAVE CONCERNED ABOUT
CHINA, SHUT UP YOUR RACIST
ZENOPHOBE.
THEY ARE TESTIFYING BEFORE
CONGRESS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
LAWMAKERS ARE LOOKING TO BAN IT
OVER NATIONAL SECURITY RISKS.
THERE IS REPORTS THAT THEY ARE
SPYING ON JOURNALISTS SCOOPING
UP THE PERSONAL DATA OF 150
MILLION AMERICAN USERS.
IT IS A RARE BIPARTISAN EFFORT.
BUT A MEMBER OF THE SQUAD WOULD
RATHER MAKE IT ABOUT IDENTITY
POLITICS.
>> WHY THE HYSTERIA.
AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN
SOUNDING THE ALARM TO CREATE A
RED SCARE AROUND CHINA. LET’S NOT BE RACIST TOWARDS
LET’S NOT BE RACIST TOWARDS
CHINA AND EXPRESS OUR
XENOPHOBIA.
REPUBLICANS DON’T HAVE ANY SWAG,
THAT’S THE PROBLEM.
>> TIKTOK CEO SAYING THE COMPANY
IS NOT AN AGENT OF THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST PARTY, BUT THAT DIDN’T
GO WELL.
>> I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA.
>> I FIND THAT ACTUALLY
PREPOSTEROUS.
>> WE DON’T SELL DATA TO ANY DATA --
DATA --
>> I DIDN’T ASK IF YOU SELL TO
BROKERS.
>> DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO
AMERICAN DATA?
>> WE RELY ON GLOBAL DATA.
>> THEY HAVE REPEATEDLY CHOSEN
THE PAST FOR MORE SURVEILLANCE
AND MANIPULATION.
YOUR PLATFORM SHOULD BE BANNED.
>> WHAT THEY REALLY FEAR THE
MOST IS THAT A TIKTOK BAN COULD
END A GRAVY TRAIN OF SUPPORT. DEMOCRATS FROM THE TOP DOWNTURN
DEMOCRATS FROM THE TOP DOWNTURN TO THE APP TO REACH GEN Z.
TO THE APP TO REACH GEN Z.
A BAN WOULD RUIN HER CAREER AS A
SINCER.
>> YEAH, I MEAN IT IS TOO
OBVIOUS.
DINNER AFTER DINNER AFTER
DINNER.
IT DOESN’T MATTER TO ME IF THEY
BAN IT OR NOT.
I SIGNED UP FOR A TIKTOK ACCOUNT
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE
THING TO DO TO PROMOTE THE SHOW.
I GO IN AND I ENTER MY
DEMOGRAPHICS AND THEY ASK ME
PERSONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT MY
LIKES AND DISLIKES AND I LOG ON
AND I’M FLOODED WITH THE SAME
VIDEO.
30-YEAR-OLD WHITE MOMS DANCING
TO HIP HOP IN KITCHENS.
APPARENTLY THAT IS WHAT I LOVE.
AND THEY KNOW ME, AND I DON’T
LIKE THAT WE SPY ON OTHER PEOPLE THROUGH OUR PLATFORMS, GOOGLE,
THROUGH OUR PLATFORMS, GOOGLE,
FACEBOOK, IT IS WHAT THEY ARE
ALLOWED TO DO.
LET’S JUST SAVE NAGASAKI.
YOU DON’T WANT TO LET THATWOKE
IDEOLOGY ENTER INTO NATIONAL
SECURITY.
IT PUTS LIVES IN DANGER.
PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
SPYING AND THE DANGER, BUT IN A
WAY THAT THE COMPANY CAN AMPLIFY
STORIES AND VIDEOS THAT
MANIPULATE THE MINDSETS OF THE
PEOPLE THAT USE IT.
THAT’S WHEN YOU’RE SEEING GIRLS
WITH DEPRESSION AND SUICIDE.
BOYS NO LONGER TALKING TO THE
OPPOSITE SEX, INSTEAD LOOKING AT
TIKTOK VIDEOS.
>> I THOUGHT ONE OF THE MOST
INTERESTING PARTS IS WHY HE HAD
TO EXPLAIN WHY HIS KIDS ARE NOT
ALLOWED ON TIKTOK.
AND THERE -- CHINA DOESN’T ALLOW
OUR APPS IN CHINA, OKAY?
DO WE HAVE TO ALLOW THEIRS IN
AMERICA?
I DON’T THINK THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION DID A GOOD JOB OF
ARTICULATING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY THREAT.
HE ASKED WELL, IS IT THE
PRESIDENT BANNING TICK TOOK OR
SELLING ITSELF OFF?
AND JUST LAST WEEK HE MADE A ST.
PATRICK’S DAVIDY VIDEO ON TIKTOK
WHAT DOES HE WANT PEOPLE TO
THINK.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO,
THERE HAS BEEN A DEFENSE OF
TIKTOK.
IN 2019, TIKTOK SPENT $270 ON
LOBBYING, NOT THAT MUCH, OKAY?
LAST YEAR $5.3 MILLION.
THEY BROUGHT THEIR INFLUENCES
THERE.
THEY GOT TO JAMMAL BOWMAN, AND
THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND
TO ALLOW CHINA, WHO IS
UNDERTAKING A GENOCIDE, WHICH
YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT TODAY, I
THINK THAT IT IS TIME FOR
AMERICAN’S TO TAKE A MOMENT AND
SAY WOW, BIPARTISAN IS STILL
POSSIBLE IN AMERICA.
THAT IS A GOOD HEARING TODAY.
THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WERE
PRETTY PREPARED ON A
TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUE WHICH
THEY’RE USUALLY NOT.
>> IT IS KIND OF -- IT IS, IT
TELLS YOU ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS
THAT PEOPLE TAKE THIS THAT LEFT AND RIGHT CAN GET TOGETHER AND
AND RIGHT CAN GET TOGETHER AND
TALK ABOUT BOTHER YOU THAT
THERE IS ALWAYS PEOPLE THAT USE
RACIST AS PART OF THE DEBATE.
>> IT BOTHERS ME THAT YOU BRING
IT UP.
BUT SINCE I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT
IT EVERY DAY, I WAS GLAD THAT HE
WAS SO FAR OUT ON A LIMB BY
HIMSELF.
THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES
UNION IS ON HIS SIDE ABOUT IT.
IT IS A COUPLE CAUSE MEMBERS AND
A FREE SPEEGS ORGANIZATION.
>> THEIR REPUTATION HAS BEEN
DEGRADED FOR SURE, BUT IT IS
STILL SOMETHING.
IT IS NOT A NOTHING ORGANIZATION.
ORGANIZATION.
I THINK THE GREAT,
IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT ANGLES.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY HAS A
LITTLE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS
BIPARTISAN COORDINATION, WHICH
WOULD BE INCREDIBLE, BUT I WAS
IMPRESSED BY THAT.
THE ONLY SOCIAL MEDIA THAT I
HAVE IS TWITTER AND I USE IT TO
STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE NEWS.
I’M SCARED OF SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I WAS TALKING TO A JOURNALIST
I WAS TALKING TO A JOURNALIST
THAT HAS A SEPARATE PHONE FOR
TIKTOK.
BUT IT IS AN ISSUE WITH AMAZON
MARKETPLACES.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP TRACK OF THE LIVELIHOODS THAT
TRACK OF THE LIVELIHOODS THAT
ARE PART OF THIS.
I REALIZE THAT TIKTOK WAS NOT
AROUND A FEW YEARS AGO.
THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE
BUSINESS.
I HOPE IT IS -- WHY CAN’T WE
MAKE AN AMERICAN TED TALK,
RIGHT?
>> YOU COULD ABSOLUTELY MOVE
FROM IT TO SOME OF THE AMERICAN
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
THE AMAZING PART OF THIS IS THAT
I DIDN’T HEAR A LOT OF
DISCUSSION TODAY AND BY THE WAY
I WAS THINK L THAT IT IS
BIPARTISAN.
I LOOKED AT THEM AND I SAID
ISN’T THAT GREAT?
THEY’RE AGREEING ON SOMETHING.
BUT THE DANGERS, THE BIO METRIC
IDENTIFIERS.
THEY’RE EXPLOITING US.
AND THIS GUY WHO COMES IN, HE
WAS EVASIVE.
HE WAS MISLEADING, I THINK HE
THOUGHT -- SOMEONE SAID HE
WASN’T PREPARED.
I THINK HE THINKS THAT WE’RE
STUPID.
THAT BITE DANCE IS ANSWERABLE.
THAT THE PARENT COMPANY, TIKTOK
IS NOT ANSWERABLE TO THE CCP.
THEY CAN’T SAY TO BITE DANCE
THAT I WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING
THAT IS ON THERE.
AND WHEN YOU JOIN IT WITH
EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, CHINA,
THE CCP, JUST HAD A SPY CRAFT
GOING OUR OTHER SITES AND YOU
HAVE PUTIN NOW MEETING WITH XI
JINPING.
IT IS A NEW WORLD ORDER.
IS IT A SURPRISE THEY WOULD USE
THIS PARTICULAR MEDIUM TO GET
INFORMATION ON US TO SPY ON WHAT
OUR KIDS DO?
AND WHILE WE’RE AT IT WE SHOULD
LOOK AT GOOGLE AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND PEOPLE THAT RESPOND WITH IT
IS RACIST.
IT SHOWS YOU HOW SHALLOW THEY
ARE.
HE DOESN’T TALK ABOUT THE
CONCENTRATION CAMPS OR THE
GENOCIDE THAT IS GOING ON IN
CHINA.
IT IS JUST -- EVERYTHING IS
THROUGH THE LENS OF RACISM.
YOU HAVE TO GIVE THAT UP.
YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FACTS.
RACISM DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING ANY
MORE.
IT DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME
ANY MORE WHEN SOMEONE SAYS
SOMEONE ELSE IS A RACIST.
SO I MEAN I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
DAY FOR AMERICA.
I THINK WITH THE CONTINUING
HEARINGS ON CHINA PEOPLE WILL
RECOGNIZE HOW DANGEROUS CHINA IS
TO THE UNITED STATES.
>> YOU KNOW THE DOWNSIDE IS NO
LIBS OF TIKTOK.
AND MAYBE THAT IS WHY THEY WANT
IT GONE.
BECAUSE THE LIBS HAVE DONE MORE
TO EXPOSE WOKEISM --
>> IT IS -- THE BEST STUFF COMES
FROM TIKTOK.