DOCTOR KAVITA PATEL, AND FORMER
FBI ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR
COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE, LUCKY FOR
US, ALL THREE ARE MSNBC
CONTRIBUTORS.
DR. PATEL ARE THERE ANY VACCINES AVAILABLE FOR YOUNG KIDS?
AVAILABLE FOR YOUNG KIDS?
>> NO, NOT YET.
>> SO WE DO HAVE HOPE THAT
CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO BE
VACCINATED 12 TO 15 FIRST, THEN
YOUNGER ONES, PROBABLY BY THE
END OF THIS YEAR OR THE FIRST
QUARTER OF 2022, BUT TO KEEP
YOUR CHILD SAFE, LIKE TO MAKE
THIS A -- I HAVE SEEN CASES OF
CHILD ABUSE, AND IT’S MORALLY
REPREHENSIBLE ABOUT USING THOSE
WORDS TO PROTECT YOUR CHILD.
YOU SHOULDN’T BE SHAMED,
NICOLLE, IF YOU SAID TO WEAR A
MASK, EVEN IF YOU DON’T NEED TO
OUTDOORS.
KEEPING YOURSELF SAFE SHOULD NOT
BE SOMETHING THAT IS AGAINST THE
LAW.
>> DO KIDS STILL HAVE THE
ABILITY TO TRANSMIT THE VIRUS
FROM ONE TO ANOTHER?
CAN KIDS STILL SPREAD THE VIRUS,
DR. PATEL?
>> YES.
SO WE KNOW THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTS
THAT CHILDREN -- OR LET’S BE
CLEAR, AGES 12 AND OVER, WE DO
SEE THAT THEY ACT ALMOST LIKE
ADULT IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN
SEE THE RATE OF SPREAD, SIMILAR
IN AGES 12 AND OVER, TO OTHER
ADULTS.
THEN WE KNOW THAT YOUNGER
CHILDREN ARE NOT AS EFFICIENT OR
EFFECTIVE AT TRANSMITTING THE
VIRUS.
I THINK THE REASON YOU’RE SEEING
ALL OF US STILL PUTTING INTO
PLACE, ASKING CHILDREN TO WEAR
MASKS, EVEN OUTDOORS IS BECAUSE
OF THE VARIANT AND WE’RE NOW
SEEING TRANSMISSION AND VARIANTS
IN CHILDREN THAT WENT FROM CHILD
TO ADULT.
SO IT’S NOT COMMON, BUT, AGAIN,
I DO THINK CHILDREN ARE NOT A
SIGNIFICANT RISK, BUT IT’S A
RISK THAT I DON’T WANT TO TAKE
WITH MY CHILD.
>> KIDS ARE ADAPTABLE.
FRANK FIGLIUZZI, WHAT DOES THIS
DO FOR THE CALLERS?
>> YEAH, THERE’S A COUPLE
SERIOUS ISSUES WITH CARLSON’S
COMMENTS.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, NICOLLE, I
DEBATED EVEN COMING ON AND
TALKING ABOUT TUCKER CARLSON.
FOR HIM, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT
RATINGS AND RELEVANCY, AND HE
THRIVES ON THIS KIND OF
COVERAGE.
HE’LL PROBABLY HAVE US ON IN
CLIPS TONIGHT ON HIS SHOW, AND
RELISH THE FACT WE’RE TALKING
ABOUT IT.
BUT HERE’S WHY I’M HERE TODAY
DOING THIS WITH YOU.
FIRST, THE PROBLEM IS THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT NEED CALLS
FOR NONSENSE.
THE SAME HOSTS ON FOX WHO EVERY
NIGHT TELL US THAT OUR CITIES
ARE IN CHAOS WITH VIOLENT CRIME
OUT OF CONTROL ARE NOT TELLING
US, CALLING THE POLICE IF YOU
SEE A PARENT TRYING TO CARE FOR
THEIR CHILD AND KEEP THEM
HEALTHY.
THE POLICE DON’T NEED THEIR
CALLS.
IN FACT, IN MANY STATES, A FALSE
REPORT TO THE POLICE, AND
SPECIFICALLY A FALSE CLAIM OF
CHILD ABUSE IS A CRIME IN THAT
STATE.
SO HE’S ESSENTIALLY TELLING
PEOPLE TO COMMIT A CRIME.
THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS IS
THE NEXUS TO VIOLENCE.
THAT’S WHAT CONCERNS ME THE
MOST.
WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD WITH A
FOX BASE, THE TRUMP BASE, WHICH
IS ONE AND THE SAME OVER THE
LAST FOUR, FIVE YEARS,
COMMITTING ACTS OF VIOLENCE
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING SOMEBODY
SAID WHO THEY VIEW AS A LEADER,
WHETHER IT’S INGESTING A
SANITIZER OR THE EL PASO WALMART
SHOOTING SUBJECT SHOOTING PEOPLE
BECAUSE OF WORDS THAT TRUMP
SAID, OR WHETHER IT’S THE
JANUARY 6th NEXT.
CARLSON SEEMS TO NOT UNDERSTAND
THE NEXUS BETWEEN WORDS AND
VIOLENCE.
IF YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE AND
MATURE, HE WOULD GET ON HIS SHOW
TONIGHT AND HE WOULD SAY, I DID
NOT MEAN TO TELL PEOPLE THEY
SHOULD CONFRONT EACH OTHER ON
THE STREET ABOUT WEARING A MASK,
BECAUSE I DON’T WANT VIOLENCE.
BUT I’M FEARFUL THERE WILL BE
VIOLENCE IF HE DOESN’T RETRACT
THE STATEMENT.
FRANK, JUST TO SORT OF ADD TO
YOUR POINT ABOUT THE NEXUS WITH
EXTREMISTS MOTIVATED TO COMMIT
VIOLENCE, THIS IS THE NATIONAL
TERROR ADVISORY BULLETIN ON
DOMESTIC VIOLENT EXTREMISM
WARNINGS ISSUED AT THE BEGINNING
OF THIS YEAR -- DVs MOTIVATED BY
A RANGE OF ISSUES HAVE PLOTTED
AND ON OCCASION CARRIED OUT
ATTACKS AGAINST GOVERNMENT
FACILITIES.
THREATS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST
CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE,
INCLUDING THE ELECTRONICS
INCREASED IN 2020 WITH VIOLENT
EXTREMISTS CITING SPRIRCONSPIRAC
THEORIES.
SO IS INCITEMENT OVER A CHILD
WEARING A MASK PART OF WHAT
THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> WE’VE SEEN THE ENTIRE
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY,
INCLUDING DHS AND FBI WARN US
REPEATEDLY THAT DOMESTIC VIOLENT
EXTREMISM IS FUELED BY THE
MEDIA, SOCIAL MEDIA, THIS
POLARIZATION FOR PROFIT THAT FOX
NEWS ENGAGES IN, GETTING PEOPLE
RILED UP IS PART OF THE
STRATEGY, AND THEY SEEM NOT TO
CARE THAT THERE’S VIOLENCE
ATTACHED TO IT.
ONE MORE THING THEY SEEM TO NOT
UNDERSTAND.
THAT IS THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE
SERVICE AND OTHER ADVERSARIAL
GOVERNMENTS ACTUALLY AMPLIFY
WHAT GOES ON FOSS NEWS.
YOU CAN’T TELL WHO POSTED FIRST,
THE GRU OR FOX NEWS OR TUCKER
CARLSON.
EVERY TIME HE SAYS THIS ABOUT
VACCINES, MASKS, COVID, YOU CAN
SEE THE RUSSIAN BOTS AND TROLLS