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>> Kayleigh: A NEW REPORT
REVEALS A GROWING DIVIDE BETWEEN
PRESIDENT BIDEN AND
VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS.
THE LATEST POINT OF CONTENTION?
STUDENT LOAN DEBT.
POLITICO SAYS HARRIS DECIDED
AGAINST COLLABORATING ON A
SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEO WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
THE PIECE SUGGESTS SHE WAS
CONCERNED ABOUT HER OWN
POLITICAL FUTURE WRITING, "BUT
PROGRESSIVES ARE PUSHING BUTTONS
UNILATERALLY CANCEL THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS IN STUDENT DEBT AND
BIDEN IS RESISTING SUCH
LOBBYING.
THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN
INCREASINGLY WARY OF BECOMING
PART OF THE PUBLIC FACE OF THE
ADMINISTRATION’S RESPONSE."
RACHEL, DEFINING THE PRESIDENT
AND DISTANCING YOURSELF FROM
STUDENT LOAN DEBT OR FROM JOE?
I DON’T KNOW.
>> Rachel: SHE IS DISTANCING
HERSELF FROM JAIL BUT ALSO THERE
ARE REPORTS THAT JILL IS THE ONE
WHO HAS NEVER FORGIVEN
KAMALA HARRIS FOUR, DURING THE
DEBATE, SUGGESTING THAT
JOE BIDEN WAS RACIST.
REMEMBER THE WHOLE BUSSING THING
THING?
WHERE WE ARE ALL DESENSITIZED TO
IT ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, ON
THE LIBERAL SIDE IT’S THAT THEY
STILL REALLY CARE PAGE SO SHE’S
NEVER FORGIVEN HER FOR THAT.
AND I THINK THIS TENSION GROWS,
BECAUSE JILL BIDEN, A SPOUSE IS
VERY IMPORTANT IN THE
RELATIONSHIP SO THERE’S A LOT OF
INFLUENCE.
JILL BIDEN HAS EVEN MORE
INFLUENCE ON BECAUSE SHE’S LIKE
A VISITING ANGEL.
[LAUGHTER] I THINK THIS IS MAYBE MORE ABOUT
I THINK THIS IS MAYBE MORE ABOUT
THE GIRLS THAN THE PRESIDENT.
SHE’S BY HIS SIDE CORRECTING
HIM...
>> Ben: TELLING HIM NOT TO
READ BOOKS, I’LL DO THAT FOR
YOU, KEEP WAVING!
>> Kayleigh: I WOULD BE UPSET,
TOO, IF SOMEONE CALLED MY
HUSBAND A RACIST.
KAMALA HARRIS HAS BECOME
INCREASINGLY DESPERATE LENDER
APPROVAL HIT 28%.
THEY SAID AS A RESULT SHE WAS
GROWING IMPATIENT, WHOM SHE
BLAMED FOR LETTING HER DOWN.
THEY EVEN INITIATED AN AUDIT OF
HER OFFICE.
>> Ben: I’M NOT SURPRISED THAT
JOE BIDEN SAW WHAT I THINK A LOT
OF AMERICANS SAW, WHICH IS
KAMALA HARRIS MIGHT BE THE MOST
UNDISCIPLINED VICE PRESIDENT AND
POLITICAL MAJOR CANDIDATE IN OUR
LIFETIME.
SHE GOES ROGUE ON EVERYTHING
INCLUDING THE PEOPLE THAT WORK
FOR HER.
SHE GOES AGAINST EVERYBODY
TELLING HER ADVICE, SO THEY
QUIT, BECAUSE WHILE YOU WORK FOR
SOMEONE WHO NEVER LISTENS TO
YOU?
I THINK ON THE STUDENT DEBT SHE
SAID, THIS IS MY BRAND.
I WANT TO FORGIVE $1 TRILLION
PLUS IN STUDENT DEBT, I WANT TO
HAVE IT BE $55,000 OR $100,000
HOUSEHOLD OR EVEN MORE.
AND I THINK SHE REALIZES, $8,000
WERE $10,000 ISN’T ENOUGH.
I’M OVER HARD-CORE SOCIALIST AND
THIS IS MY PLATFORM GOING
FORWARD.
IT’S ALL SHE’S GOT LEFT.
>> Kayleigh: SOMETHING ELSE
SHE HAS LEFT, APPARENTLY THIS
NEW BOOK BY ALEX BURNS FROM
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" COMING OUT.
THEY SAID HARRIS BEGAN SEEKING
OUT ADVICE FROM BEYOND HER INNER
CIRCLE.
ONE OF THE PEOPLE SHE TURNED TO
WAS MSNBC’S MORNING JOE.
>> Emily: THIS REMIND ME OF,
IN FOOTBALL, WHEN SOMEONE HURTS
YOU AND IF YOU STRIKE BACK YOU
ARE THE ONE WHO GETS PENALIZED.
ALL THIS DOES OR DOES IT REFLECT
POORLY ON HER.
WHATEVER INTENTION THERE IS,
WHATEVER SHE DOESN’T LIKE ABOUT
THE PRESIDENT, SHE IS RESPONDING
IN A WAY THAT WILL REFLECT ONLY
POORLY ON HER.
SHE DOESN’T WANT TO BE SEEN WITH
HIM.
THAT’S NOT A GOOD LOOK.
SHE IS THE FIRST SUCCESSOR
SHOULD ANYTHING, GOD FORBID,
HAPPEN TO OUR PRESIDENT.
WE NEED A SHOW OF UNITY AND WE
NEED HER TO BE RIDE OR DIE, AND
WE NEED TO KNOW THAT BEHIND THE
SCENES THERE IS AN EXCESS OF
INFORMATION AND A UNITY WE CAN
DEPEND ON.
SO THIS ISN’T A GOOD LOOK FOR
HER POLITICALLY OR PERSONALLY
BUT IT’S ALSO DISAPPOINTING AND
FRANKLY A LITTLE FRIGHTENING FOR
US WATCHING THIS UNFOLD.
>> Ben: IT SHOULDN’T BE THAT
PUBLIC.
>> Emily: IT’S LIKE WATCHING
YOUR FRIENDS FIGHTING AT A BAR,
WHO ARE A COUPLE.
>> Ben: AL GORE, WHO DID NOT
HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
BILL CLINTON AT ALL IN THE LAST
YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF, EVEN
SHUT UP AND STAYED SILENT ABOUT
IT WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT.
HE KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SAY
HE’S THE GUY, I’M THE
VICE PRESIDENT.
>> Kayleigh: IT’S IMPORTANT TO
HAVE A CONFIDENT VICE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP KNEW THAT
MIKE PENCE WOULD LEAD THE
TASK FORCE AND DO A GOOD JOB.
>> Carley: I REMEMBER WHEN
KAMALA HARRIS GOT COVID
EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, HOW IS THE
PRESIDENT?
AND THEY RELEASED A STATEMENT
THAT SAID THEY HAVEN’T BEEN IN
CLOSE CONTACT FOR SOME TIME.
[LAUGHTER]
OF COURSE THAT MAKES SENSE.
THEY HAVE BEEN AWAY TOO MANY
WELL-SOURCED REPORTS ABOUT
FRICTION WITHIN THEIR OFFICES
FOR IT TO NOT BE TRUE.
AND IT MAKES SENSE.
KAMALA HARRIS, THE REPORTING
SAYS THAT SHE FEELS LIKE SHE’S
BEING SET UP TO FAIL BECAUSE SHE
WAS GIVEN THE BORDER JOB, AND
BIDEN’S PEOPLE FEEL LIKE SHE’S
UNPREPARED.
I UNDERSTAND WHERE HIS PEOPLE
ARE COMING FROM BUT IT’S ALSO
HIS FAULT FOR CHOOSING HER
DURING THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
ONLY 7% OF CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATS
HAD HARRIS AS THEIR FIRST
CHOICE, AND HE TELLS HER FOR
IDENTITY POLITICS REASONS, AND
LOOK WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW.