WAS TAKEN HOSPITAL SERIOUS INJURIES. DRIVERS WERE BEING TOLD TO EXPECT DELAYS
THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.
>>MARY BAER: AND NOW TO THE
WAR IN UKRAINE, MORE THAN
500,000 REFUGEES HAVE NOW FLED
THE COUNTRY DURING RUSSIA’S
ONGOING INVASION. THAT’S
ACCORDING TO UNITED NATIONS.
NEW VIDEO FROM TODAY SHOWS IN
UKRAINE’S AND TRAIN STATIONS
IN POLAND AND ARRIVING IN
ROMANIA AS WELL. THIS IS NOW
THE 5TH DAY OF FIGHTING WITH
BOTH SIDES. STILL GOING STRONG
DESPITE THE NUMBER OF REFUGEES
ON THE RUN, RUSSIAN MILITARY
FORCES ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT
TIME REACHING AND TAKING THE
CAPITAL CITY OF KIEV.
>>MARY BAER: SO THIS VIDEO
SHOWS THE DESTRUCTION OF
UKRAINE’S SECOND-LARGEST CITY
IN DESPITE ALL THE DAMAGE, THE
RUSSIANS STILL NOT BEEN ABLE
TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE CITY.
THAT’S SOUTHEAST OF KEY.
>> IF YOU PULL IN THE AIR, BUT
IT MAKES IT VERY HARD FOR THE
FIGHTING TO HAPPEN. IT’S IT’S
IT’S A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO.
>> I’M SORRY. THAT WAS RETIRED
ARMY MAJOR ARMY MAJOR JOHN
SPENCER. AND HE’S NOW ONE OF
THE NATION’S TOP EXPERTS ON
URBAN WARFARE. SPENCER SPOKE
WITH NEWS, 4 JAX REPORTER ERIK
JOINING US LIVE TO EXPLAIN WHY
ONE OF THE LARGEST AND
STRONGEST MILITARIES IN THE
WORLD IS STRUGGLING AGAINST
THE PEOPLE OF UKRAINE.
>> YES, SPECIAL SAYS IT
DOESN’T MATTER HOW BIG A FORCE
YOU HAVE, EVEN IF IT’S THE
SPECIAL FORCES. HE SAYS THE
SECOND YOU SAID OF THOSE
SOLDIERS INTO AN URBAN AREA
WHERE THE ARMED A LOCALS KNOW
ALL THE HIDING SPOT, THE SHOOT
IT MAKES IT A LOT FOR THOSE
SOLDIERS TO BECOME EASY
TARGETS.
>> A SCARY SIGHT AS RUSSIAN
TANKS CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD
DURING THE INVASION OF
UKRAINE. THIS IS ALL ABOUT
RUSSIA TRYING TO GET SOMEWHERE
AND THOSE TANKS. THEY’RE ALL
TRYING TO TAKE THE CAPITAL TO
CAPITAL FALLS OVER. JOHN
SPENCER IS A RETIRED ARMY
MAJOR WHO DID 2 TOURS IN IRAQ
AND IS ONE OF THE NATION’S
LEADING EXPERT URBAN WARFARE.
HE SAYS THE RUSSIAN MILITARY
MAY BE ONE OF THE LARGEST AND
MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
WHEN IT COMES TO INVADING
UKRAINE. THOSE SAME FORCES ARE
FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO TAKE
OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE
UKRAINIANS ARE SHOWING NO
SIGNS OF BACKING DOWN. FIRST
AND FOREMOST, THEY’RE
FIGHTING.
>> AND THEY’RE ALL FIGHTING.
SO THE MILITARY, THEIR
RESERVES. AND NOW YOU THAT THE
WHOLE POPULATION, WHICH IS CAN
BE IT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE FOR
ANY MILITARY IN THE WORLD. AND
THAT NIGHTMARE IS CALLED URBAN
WARFARE. SPENCER SAYS THERE IS
NO SAFE AREA FOR RUSSIAN
TROOPS IN URBAN AREAS WHERE
THE LOCALS KNOW EVERY NOOK AND
CRANNY OF THE CITY.
>> ANY WINDOW COULD BE.
>> A BULLET COMING YOUR WAY.
AND THERE’S THOUSANDS AND
MILLIONS OF WINDOWS AND
ALLEYS.
>> THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN
WAGING A WAR IN THE MOUNTAINS
DESERT OR ANY AREA WITHOUT
PLACES TO HIDE WHERE A
MILITARY FORCE CAN USE
SATELLITES OR DRONES TO HELP
GROUND FORCES 0 IN ON THE
ENEMY. WE CALL THEIR NEWS. THE
GREAT EQUALIZER.
>> BECAUSE TODAY, NO MATTER
WHERE YOU LIVE, IF YOU STAND
IN THE OPEN YOUR DEBT.
>> BUT SPENCER SAYS FROM A
TACTICAL POINT, CIVILIANS
DEFENDING THEIR CITIES HAVE TO
BE MORE CAREFUL WITH HIM
PUSHING RUSSIAN TROOPS.
BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT
TO DO IS GIVE UP THEIR HIDING
SPOT. THIS IS ALSO WHY SPENCER
BELIEVES RUSSIAN FORCES HAVE
INCREASED THE NUMBER OF
MISSILE AND ROCKET ATTACKS ON
BUILDINGS. HE SAYS RUSSIAN
MILITARY LEADERS ARE LIKELY
RETHINKING THEIR GROUND
STRATEGY. BACK HERE LIVE IN A
SPECIAL SAYS ANOTHER THING
HELPING THE UKRAINIANS IS THE
IS THERE PRESIDENT WHO NOT
ONLY CHOSE TO STAY IN THE
COUNTRY. HE DID NOT RUN TO
ANOTHER COUNTRY BUT TO STAY
THERE. BUT IT’S POSTING THESE
DAILY VIDEOS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
HE SAYS THOSE VIDEOS ARE
GIVING THE PEOPLE HOPE HOPE GO
UP AGAINST A POWERFUL MILITARY
LIKE THE RUSSIANS.
>> REPORTING LIVE ERIK AVANIER
CHANNEL 4, THE LOCAL STATION.
>>KENT JUSTICE: ERIC, SPENCER
MENTION WHILE THOSE RUSSIAN
VEHICLES HAVE THE LETTERS C
SPRAY PAINTED ON THEM.
>> THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT
BECAUSE THAT IS A VERY
INTERESTING QUESTION. AND YES,
HE DID. SO WHAT WE FOUND OUT
IS THAT BOTH THE RUSSIANS AND
A UKRAINIAN MILITARY, THEY
BOTH THE SAME TYPE OF VEHICLES
AND TANKS THAT LOOK ALIKE. SO
WHEN THEY WHEN THEY SPRAY
PAINT THAT WHEN THE RUSSIAN
SPRAY PAINT THAT SEE ON THEIR
VEHICLES THAT LETS THEM WHO
WHO WAS A FRIEND AND WHO IS AN
ENEMY WITHOUT IT. THEY BEAT
THINK THEY COULD PUT
POTENTIALLY BE SHOOTING THEIR
OWN PEOPLE. AND YOU CAN
IMAGINE HOW CONFUSING THIS
MIGHT BE FROM THE AIR WHEN YOU
FIGURE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE
FACT THAT BOTH THE UKRAINE AND
RUSSIA AIR FORCE IS USED MIG
AND SUKHOI IT’S ALL THE SAME.