RONNA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE RNC CHAIR.
AGAIN, WE'LL BE KEEPING UP ON
BE REPUBLICANS HOLDING ONTO THE
HOUSE.
CONSENSUS AND PREDICTIONS ARE
ALWAYS DANGEROUS, SO, GOVERNOR,
YOU CAN MAYBE REMIND US OF THAT
DO YOU THINK YOU SHALL PARTY IS
GETTING AHEAD OF ITSELF COUNTING
ITS MID TERM WINNING CHICKENS?
HOUSE AND HOLD MAKE GAINS IN THE
SENATE.
THIS RED AND BLUE STUFF.
AND OFFICES, SO I THINK THE
PROSPECTS ARE GOOD.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M OBSESSIVE ON
THE IMPORTANCE OF GRASS ROOTS
CAMPAIGNING AND PRECINCT-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS AND WE'VE GOT TO
DO IT IN EVERY ONE OF THE 50
STATES.
>> AS A FORMER GOVERNOR, MAYBE
YOU CAN OFFER SOME PERSPECTIVE
SACHS, SPENT 20 MILLION GOVERNOR
OF NEW JERSEY AND HE'S COMING
AFTER CHRIS CHRISTIE AND HE'S
TALKING A MILLIONAIRE'S SURTAX
AND HE HAS THE RUN WITH BOTH
LEGISLATIONS AND GOVERNOR'S
MANSION AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS
CAN'T WRITE OFF AS MUCH AS THEY
USED TO.
THAT COULD BOOMERANG ON HIM.
>> HE'S A NATIVE OF
MASSACHUSETTS.
NEIL: CAN'T BE BAD.
>> HE'S VERY, VERY GOOD AND HE'S
GOING TO BE AN EXCELLENT
GOVERNOR.
NEIL: SO, THE IDEA OF STILL
GOING THROUGH WITH AN SURTAX ON
MILLIONAIRES, WOULD YOU DO THAT?
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT ON
THE BALLOT IN MASSACHUSETTS
SHORTLY.
I'M CERTAINLY GOING TO SUPPORT
IT.
IMPRESSIVE NUMBER OF SUCCESSFUL
BUSINESS PEOPLE AND OTHERS WHO
ARE MILLIONAIRES WHO ARE
SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE THEY SEE
THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.
LOOK, WE HAVE TWO PRINCIPAL
NEEDS IN MASSACHUSETTS, ONE IS
IT AND SENSE IT, AND I THINK
THAT THE REFERENDUM IS GOING TO
PASS AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
EXTREMELY WELL ECONOMICALLY AND
WE FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT AND WE
ON.
BUT, I THINK IT'S GOING TO PASS
IN MASSACHUSETTS AND--
>> SO YOU DON'T THINK THAT ANY
OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE CHASED
NO, NO.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO--
>> IT WASN'T A MYTH IN ILLINOIS,
RIGHT?
IT WASN'T A MYTH THERE, RIGHT?
IT WASN'T A MYTH IN
CONNECTICUT--
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS,
IT'S REALLY NOT SIGNIFICANT.
AMERICANS FEEL THE SENSE OF
UNFAIRNESS, I MEAN, WE JUST
THE BENEFITS GOING TO THE
WEALTHIEST 1% OF THE POPULATION
AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE RUNNING A
FEDERAL DEFICIT OF 600 BILLION
DOLLARS.
I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
NEIL: GOVERNOR, YOU'VE GOT TO BE
SURPRISED ALL OF THESE
COMPANIES, LOOK AT THESE
COMPANIES THAT ARE NOW SHARING
THE LOOT WITH WORKERS AND
BONUSES AND EXTRA STUFF LIKE
THAT.
WOULD YOU--
>> LET'S WAIT AND SEE.
ALL I KNOW WE'VE GOT A $600
BILLION CURRENT FEDERAL DEFICIT
AT A TIME WHEN WE'RE CLOSE TO
FULL EMPLOYMENT.
THIS IS CRAZY.
>> AND THOSE DEBTS WERE PILING
UP--
THOSE DEFICITS WERE PILING UP
UNDER BARACK OBAMA.
THEY SEEM TO PILE UP NO MATTER
WHAT.
>> WAIT A SECOND, HE CUT IT
SIGNIFICANTLY, PROPOSED ALL
KINDS OF REVENUE MEASURES AND
THEY WERE REJECTED BY THE
REPUBLICANS.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
IT ISN'T THAT HE WASN'T TRYING
TO BALANCE THAT BUDGET.
NOW, IT'S OPEN SEASON.
I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS
NEIL: YOU'RE NOT BLAMING THE 10
TRILLION, GOVERNOR, SQUARELY ON
REPUBLICANS THE LAST GO-ROUND,
RIGHT?
CLINTON'S LAST YEAR, WEREN'T
YOU, YOU REMEMBER THE STATE OF
THE UNION ADDRESS WHERE HE
PROPOSED, REMEMBER, HE PROPOSED
A PLAN TO REDUCE AND ELIMINATE
THE NATIONAL DEBT TO 10 TO 12
YEARS, REMEMBER THAT, IT WAS
REAL.
AT THAT TIME WE HAD A QUARTER OF
A TRILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS, WHAT
HAPPENED?
WELL, AL GORE WON THE ELECTION,
BUT GEORGE BUSH TOOK OVER WITH
THE CRAZY ELECTORAL COLLEGE
SYSTEM OF OURS.
IMMEDIATELY A TAX CUT MOSTLY FOR
THE RICH AND THE WAR IN IRAQ,
COST $3 TRILLION AND ANOTHER TAX
CUT FOR THE RICH UNDER BUSH AND
DISASTER ECONOMICALLY.
NOW, IT TOOK BARACK OBAMA EIGHT
YEARS TO GET US BACK TO
SOMETHING CLOSE TO A BALANCED
BUDGET.
COULDN'T GET THE REVENUE THAT HE
WAS LOOKING FOR FROM A
REPUBLICAN CONGRESS, WHICH JUST
REFUSED TO APPROVE THEM, AND
WE'RE LOOKING--
YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE PAYING NOW
IN DEBT SERVICE THAT IS INTEREST
ON THE NATIONAL DEBT EVERY YEAR,
WE'RE PAYING JUST ON INTEREST TO
THE NATIONAL DEBT.
NEIL: BUT, GOVERNOR, YOU DO HAVE
IN HIS FIRST FEW YEARS IN
OFFICE, A LOT OF THAT STARTED
HAPPENING THEN, RIGHT?
>> WELL, HE HAD TO STIMULATE THE
ECONOMY, GOD WE WERE IN TERRIBLE
SHAPE.
NEIL: ALL RIGHT.
>> HOW DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT
IS DOING RIGHT NOW?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF HIM?
>> WELL, I THINK HE'S A STAS
DISASTER, ONE DAY TO THE NEXT.
NEIL: DON'T SUGAR COAT IT,
GOVERNOR, WHAT DO YOU REALLY
THINK OF HIM?
>> JUST LOOK AT THE LAST WEEK.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE HE IS FROM
DAY-TO-DAY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HIS CHIEF OF
STAFF, ANOTHER GREAT PRODUCT OF
MASSACHUSETTS AND BOSTON,
EXPLAINS THAT THIS WHOLE THING
ABOUT THE BORDER IS EVOLVING,
YOU KNOW, THAT WALL IS THE
DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN.
I MEAN, DOESN'T HE KNOW THAT WE
HAVE A SHORELINE THAT WE SHARE
WITH MEXICO FOR THOUSANDS OF
MILES?
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF HE
BUILDS THIS THINGS.
THIS THING AND TURNS THE NEXT
DAY AND BASICALLY COUNTER MANDS
HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND THIS GOES
THIS, IF WE'RE GOING TO
STRAIGHTEN THIS OUT, THE
DEMOCRATS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
GO OUT AND WIN THESE MID-TERM