AINSLEY: OKAY, GRADY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, OVER TO YOU, STEVE.
STEVE: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU,
AINSLEY.
AINSLEY. A TEXAS SALON OWNER BECOMING A
SYMBOL FOR ALL AMERICANS
WANTING TO GET BACK TO WORK WHEN
THEY CAN DO SO SAFELY.
AFTER DEFYING HER STATE’S
LOCKDOWN, SHELLEY LUTHER WAS
SENTENCED TO SEVEN DAYS IN JAIL.
BUT FOLLOWING AN UPROAR FROM
STATE OFFICIALS THE TEXAS
SUPREME COURT ORDERED HER
RELEASED AFTER SERVING TWO DAYS
HERE WITH AN UPDATE SALON OWNER
SHELLEY LUTHER.
SHELLEY LUTHER. GOOD MORNING TO YOU.
>> GOOD MORNING, STEVE.
STEVE: YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU ARE
ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS
PEOPLE IN THE WORLD LAST WEEK,
WHEN YOU STOOD UP TO THAT JUDGE
AND HE SAID I’M GOING TO GIVE
YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO APOLOGIZE
AND YOU SAID NOPE, NOT GOING TO
APOLOGIZE.
APOLOGIZE. PUT ME IN JAIL AND THEY DID.
WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR MESSAGE
STRUCK SUCH A CORD WITH PEOPLE
WHEN YOU WERE SAYING LOOK, I HAD
TO REOPEN MY BUSINESS, BECAUSE
WE WERE GOING BROKE.
>> I THINK IT STRUCK A LOT OF
CORDS BECAUSE THAT WAS AMERICA,
LIKE IT STILL IS.
THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT
AREN’T GETTING THE FINANCIAL
HELP THEY NEED, AND ACROSS THE
NATION I’M GETTING LETTERS
AND MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE THAT
CAN’T GET THROUGH TO
UNEMPLOYMENT, AND IT’S SAD, AND
SO I THINK PEOPLE, IT WAS JUST
RELATABLE TO PEOPLE.
STEVE: I UNDERSTAND.
LISTEN, MY SISTER TRIED FOR
THREE OR FOUR WEEKS TO GET
THROUGH TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT
IN KANSAS FINALLY DID BUT I HEAR
WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.
TELL US ABOUT HOW BEFORE THIS
HAPPENED, YOUR HAIR STYLIST
S WERE COMING TO YOU
SAYING LOOK, THEY CLOSED US DOWN
, WE’RE GOING TO START GOING
TO PEOPLE’S HOUSES TO CUT HAIR,
BECAUSE WE NEED THE MONEY, BUT
YOU DIDN’T THINK THAT WAS SAFE,
RIGHT?
RIGHT? >> NO I DIDN’T THINK THAT WAS
SAFE AT ALL, BECAUSE THE SALON
IS A SAFE PLACE BECAUSE WE HAVE
CERTAIN TYPES OF MATERIAL ON THE
CHAIRS THAT CAN BE SANITIZED
THERE’S NO LIKE COTTON CLOTH
THAT CAN HOLD ANY KIND OF
BACTERIA, AND I CAN MAKE SURE
THERE ARE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS ON
TOP OF WHAT THE STYLISTS ARE
ALREADY TRAINED TO DO.
YOU KNOW, SOCIAL DISTANCING BY
PUTTING CHAIRS SIX FEET APART
THINGS LIKE THAT OUTSIDE, AND
MAYBE JUST HAVING A LITTLE BIT
MORE CONTROL OVER THE ATMOSPHERE
I DIDN’T WANT THEM TO SPREAD THE
DISEASE AND OF COURSE I
DIDN’T WANT THEM TO GET THE
DISEASE, THE VIRUS.
STEVE: RIGHT.
STEVE: RIGHT. INDEED.
INDEED. STORIES EMERGED OVER THE LAST
DAY OR SO THAT APPARENTLY WHILE
THIS WAS GOING ON, A LOT OF
PEOPLE DIDN’T REALIZE THAT YOU
HAD APPLIED FOR A SMALL BUSINESS
LOAN OR A GRANT AND YOU WOUND
UP GETTING THE MONEY, RIGHT?
>> YES, I APPLIED FOR IT, TWO
OF THEM, THE IDL AND THE PPP
RIGHT AWAY.
RIGHT AWAY. THE FIRST DAY THAT THEY WERE
AVAILABLE TO FILL THEM OUT.
I DIDN’T HEAR ANYTHING FOR WEEKS
AND WEEKS AND WEEKS, AND THEN
ALL OF A SUDDEN TWO DAYS BEFORE
MY COURT TRIAL, MONEY DROPS IN
MY ACCOUNT AND I HAD NO IDEA
WHAT IT WAS.
THERE WAS NO E-MAIL.
THERE WAS NO INFORMATION.
NO LETTER, NO INSTRUCTIONS ON
HOW TO SPEND THE MONEY, SO IT
WAS DIFFICULT TO EVEN KNOW WHAT
IT WAS OR HOW TO SPEND IT, SO I
DON’T KNOW.
DON’T KNOW. EVERYTHING IS SO CONFUSING AND
CRAZY COMING FROM THE GOVERNMENT
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. STEVE: YEAH, IF THEY DON’T GIVE
YOU INSTRUCTIONS IT’S HARD TO
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.
YOU KNOW, I WAS TALKING TO ONE
OF MY NEIGHBORS FROM ACROSS THE
STREET AND HE’S A SMALL
BUSINESS PERSON, AND HE’S BEEN
FRUSTRATED ABOUT HOW THE
GOVERNMENT AT VARIOUS LEVELS
HAS BEEN PICKING WINNERS AND
LOSERS WHEN IT COMES TO
BUSINESSES.
BUSINESSES. FOR INSTANCE THEY SAID YOUR
BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, A SALON
YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO CLOSE
DOWN.
DOWN. WHEN IT COMES TO WINNERS AND
LOSERS YOU’RE A LOSER, BUT IN
YOUR TOWN, RIGHT NEXT DOOR, THE
PET GROOMER IS DEEMED
ESSENTIAL SO THEY GET TO BE OPEN
AND THE CBD GUY GETS TO BE OPEN
BUT YOU DON’T.
THAT, I THINK, IS REALLY IMPACTS
A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE, SHELLEY
, EVERY JOB IS ESSENTIAL
TO SOMEBODY.
TO SOMEBODY. >> UH-HUH THAT’S ACTUALLY BEEN
MY BIGGEST ARGUMENT.
IT’S A FORM OF DISCRIMINATION
AND WHAT’S REALLY BAD ABOUT IT
IS THE WAY THAT THEY’RE PICKING
THEIR ESSENTIAL/NON-ESSENTIAL
THEIR ESSENTIAL/NON-ESSENTIAL DOESN’T MAKE SENSE AND THEN IF
YOU CROSS ONE COUNTY LINE TO
ANOTHER, THE RULES CHANGE, SO
HOW DO THEY EXPECT US TO FOLLOW
RULES WHEN YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW
WHAT THEY ARE IF YOU STEP INTO
ANOTHER COUNTY?
ANOTHER COUNTY? STEVE: YEAH.
STEVE: YEAH. YOU KNOW, WE HAD THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES ON OUR
PROGRAM ON FRIDAY.
HE MENTIONED YOUR CASE.
YOU’VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.
WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU?
>> WELL, I MEAN, I’M OPENING A
LOT OF MAIL, AND PEOPLE SENDING
IN DONATIONS AND JUST A LOT OF
IT WAS JUST PROUD OF THE WAY
THAT I STOOD UP, BUT WHEN THE
PRESIDENT SPOKE ABOUT ME OF
COURSE THAT’S A BIG MAJOR DEAL.
YOU WAKE UP ONE DAY AND THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES IS TALKING ABOUT YOU,
IT’S A LITTLE BIT SURREAL.
STEVE: BUT IT HAD TO BE CRAZY
BEING IN JAIL FOR A COUPLE OF
DAYS.
DAYS. YOU MIGHT BE SITTING IN THE
LOCAL JAIL GOING YOU KNOW, I
DON’T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE RIGHT
THING TO DO.
WAS IT?
WAS IT? >> I NEVER THOUGHT THAT.
THAT NEVER CROSSED MY MIND.
I WAS MORE CONCERNED OF MY
FAMILY AND MY BOYFRIEND AND
DAUGHTERS AT HOME AND I JUST
FELT HELPLESS A LITTLE BIT
BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
THEY WERE SAFE.
THEY DIDN’T ASK FOR ANY OF THIS
SO THAT’S MORE OF WHAT I
FELT.
FELT. STEVE: YEAH.
STEVE: YEAH. EXIT QUESTION.
EXIT QUESTION. YOU HAVE REOPENED.
THE STATE OF TEXAS REOPENED
SALONS AND BARBER SHOPS ON
FRIDAY ANYWAY.
FRIDAY ANYWAY. HOW’S BUSINESS?
HOW’S BUSINESS? >> BUSINESS IS BOOMING.
WE HAVE PEOPLE TRAVELING FROM
ACROSS THE UNITED STATES TO COME
IN AND GET A HAIR CUT JUST TO
PROVE A POINT THAT THEY SUPPORT
US.
US. SO THIS IS REALLY, TO ME, GIVING
PEOPLE THAT SENSE OF LIBERTY
BACK, AND I’M JUST REALLY PROUD
TO SAY THAT WE WERE HAPPY TO BE
PART OF THAT MOVEMENT.
STEVE: WELL I KNOW TED CRUZ
STOPPED BY FOR A HAIR CUT LAST
WEEK, SO A LOT OF ATTENTION.
SHELLEY LUTHER JOINING US TODAY
FROM ADDISON, TEXAS, SHELLEY