SEA, MUCH LIKE USAMA BIN LADEN,
SHANNON.
>> Shannon: TRACE GALLAGHER
WITH ALL THE DETAILS, THANK YOU.
ISIS SUPPORTERS SAY WASTING NO
TIME CLOSING RANKS AFTER THEIR
LEADER WAS TAKEN OUT.
WHAT IS NEXT?
FORMER CIA DIRECTOR JAMES
WOOLSEY AND DEPUTY SECRETARY OF
INTELLIGENCE, JARED BOYKIN, BOTH
JOIN US, GREAT TO HAVE YOU BUT
THAT'S.
>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: OKAY, THIS IS A
QUOTE FROM PRO-ISIS TELEGRAM
CHANNEL, COMMUNICATING OUT THERE
THAT SAID THAT INSULATORS DON'T
UNDERSTAND WITH REGARDS TO THE
MUSLIMS CREED, THAT OF
JOHN HUDDY FIGHTERS IS THAT G
HUD IN ITS ENTIRETY IS NOT
SOUNDED ON MEN, BUT
ISLAMIC STATE SHALL REMAIN,
SHALL DISTURB THE LIVES OF
INFIDELS AND PUNISH THE GENERAL.
WHERE DOES THIS PUT US IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST ISIS?
>> LOOK, THIS WAS A GREAT
OPERATION AND IT WAS PRECISE.
IT HAD VERY LITTLE COLLATERAL
DAMAGE AND IT TOOK OUT THE MOST
WANTED MEN IN THE WORLD.
I THINK THIS SENDS A STRONG
MESSAGE TO THE NEXT LEADER OF
ISIS OR AL QAEDA THAT YOU MAY BE
NEXT.
THIS IS NOT A POSITION THAT YOU
SHOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO
BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO COME
AFTER YOU.
WE WILL FIND THE YOU AND WITH
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND
THE CHAIR TOOK PROBABLY YEARS,
NOT JUST MONTHS, THEY TALK ABOUT
MAY BUT PROBABLY YEARS THEY'VE
BEEN AFTER THIS GUY TRYING TO
FIND HIM.
THEY FOUND HIM, PINPOINTED HIM
TO THE POINT YOU COULD TAKE THE
RISK OF LAUNCHING AN OPERATION.
I THINK THIS SENDS A VERY STRONG
MESSAGE TO THE TERROR NETWORK.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DIE.
THEY WILL COME BACK, BUT THIS
WAS A GOOD MESSAGE BASED ON THE
FACT THAT WE JUST TOOK OUT THEIR
LEADER.
>> Shannon: THE PRESIDENT CAME
OUT AND SPOKE TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAD
BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
AND THERE WERE IMMEDIATELY
CRITICS OVER WHAT HE HAD TO
SHARE.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE MEDIA IS
WHO THE PRESIDENT GOT THIS ALL
WRONG WHEN TALKING ABOUT HOW
THIS CAME ABOUT.
>> IT IS REALLY UNPRECEDENTED
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH
DETAIL HE ACTUALLY WENT INTO IT.
>> ARE USING IT IS A
RESPONSIBLE?
I THINK IT IS YOU'RE
RESPONSIBLE.
>> HE SOUNDED NOT LIKE A
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
HE ACTUALLY SOUNDED LIKE SADDAM
HUSSEIN.
IT SOUNDED LIKE MUAMMAR QADDAFI
AFTER HE WOULD TORTURE PEOPLE.
>> THERE IS A LONG TRAIL TO
ACTUALLY FINALLY RELEASED
DETAILS FROM EXPLICIT DETAILS,
SOME OF WHICH ECHOED, THE
CRUDENESS SHE WOULD OFTEN EXPECT
TO HEAR FROM ISIS.
>> Shannon: DOCTOR, WHAT DO
YOU MAKE OF THOSE CRITIQUES?
>> I THINK THEY ARE RIDICULOUS.
THEY STARTED FROM THE
PROPOSITION THAT THEY WANT TO
GET RID OF THE PRESIDENT.
AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT FOR
AN ELECTION.
AND THEY USE EVERY OPPORTUNITY
TO COME FORWARD WITH THINGS LIKE
THAT.
NOT JUST SUBSTANTIVELY
CRITIQUES.
THERE WERE A LOT OF US NOT
PLEASED WITH THE PRESIDENT'S
MOVE ON SYRIA AND A OF WEEKS AGO
BECAUSE IT LEFT THE KURDS VERY
MUCH UNPROTECTED IN PARTS OF
THEIR DEPLOYMENTS.
AND THEY ARE OUR BEST FRIENDS
AND BEST CALLED BEST FIGHTERS
FOR YEARS.
AND SO IT'S NOT AS IF ONE HAS TO
SIGN ON TO ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING
THE PRESIDENT DOES OR SAYS, BUT
THIS WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE.
HE PULLED IT OFF, AND THE
CRITIQUES OF IT HERE ARE JUST
RIDICULOUS.
ALMOST SATIRE IN THEMSELVES.
>> Shannon: SPEAKING OF
SATIRE, "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE"
HAD AN ISIS GOING ON THIS
WEEKEND.
AND APPARENTLY PLAYED OUT IN THE
PRESIDENT WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE
MONDAY MORNING.
WE STARTED TO GET SOME TRICKLE
SATURDAY NIGHT OF THE
BREAKING NEWS.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS THE
SKIT THEY WERE RUNNING.
>> WHERE YOU FROM, NEW MEXICO?
>> ISIS.
[LAUGHTER]
>> I WAS A PRESIDENT IN SYRIA
LAST WEEK UNTIL YOU FREED ME.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
BRINGING JOBS BACK.
[LAUGHTER]
TO ISIS.
AND I PROMISE THAT I WILL MAKE
ISIS GREAT AGAIN.
[LAUGHTER]
>> WHAT A GREAT GUY COME ISIS IS
BACK IN A BIG, BIG WAY POKES.
AND WE LOVE THAT, DON'T WE,
OKAY.
SPEND WHAT THEY COULD NEVER HAVE
IMAGINED THE TIMING OF WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
>> THESE GUYS ARE CLOWNS, THAT
IS ALL THEY ARE, CLOWNS.
LISTEN, AGAIN, THIS PRESIDENT
GAVE THE ORDER AND PROVIDED THE
MILITARY WITH EVERYTHING THEY
NEEDED TO PULL OFF PROBABLY THE
MOST PRECISE OPERATION THAT I
HAVE EVER KNOWN.
I HAVE SPENT 13 YEARS IN THAT
UNIT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS IS THE
MOST PRECISE OPERATIONS.
THE SALES DID A GREAT JOB IN
2011, A GREAT JOB.
A LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION
THEN, BUT THIS WAS THE MOST
PRECISE OPERATION THAT I HAVE
EVER SEEN AND IT WAS BECAUSE OUR
PRESIDENT THOUGHT DOWN INTO THE
DETAILS IN TERMS OF WHICH COURSE
OF ACTION THAT HE WAS GOING TO
ACCEPT AND INSTRUCT THEM TO
LAUNCH.
AND I THINK THAT HE SHOULD BE
CREDITED WITH THIS, BUT YOU CAN
EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE
THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO GIVE HIM
CREDIT FOR ANYTHING THAT HE HAS
DONE AS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE
PRESIDENT, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT
OF HIS DISAGREEMENTS IN THE PAST
WITH THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY,
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM SAY
SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT
PARTICULARLY THE CIA.
BECAUSE THIS WAS HUMAN
INTELLIGENCE THAT REQUIRED MOST
EXTRAORDINARY DIFFICULT
CIRCUMSTANCES.
YOU ARE TRYING TO PENETRATE A
TERRORIST GROUP DEPLOYED UP WITH
THE TURKISH BORDER.
HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU DO THAT
WITH THAT KIND OF PRECISION AND
TRUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE
NOT DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO
WANTS TO BE A DOUBLE EDGE,
ET CETERA?
I JUST REALLY TAKE MY HAT OFF TO
THE CIA HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
PEOPLE.
AND I'M SURE THERE WERE PEOPLE
FROM OTHER AGENTS INVOLVED TOO.
BUT THE CIA PULLED THE MAIN
STRINGS ON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
COLLECTION THERE.
AND IT WAS BRILLIANT.
>> Shannon: WE CAN NEVER MOVE
AHEAD WITHOUT EVERY SINGLE PIECE
OF THAT PUZZLE TO GET INTEL,
OPERATORS ABLE TO GO IN THERE
AND THOUSANDS OF OTHER PEOPLE.
KURDS TO HELP TRACK THIS PERSON.
PEOPLE WHO WERE BRAVE ENOUGH TO
GET INSIDE AND BRING US
INFORMATION OUT.
>> POINTED INTO THE SPIRIT OF
THOSE OPERATORS ON THE GROUND
BUT THE HARD WORK IS DONE BY THE