APPLE SHARES ARE HIGHER.
BACK TO YOU.
NEIL: GERRI WILLIS THANK YOU.
SHE MENTIONED STREAMING, IT
COMES AT INTERESTING TIME FOR
LIKES OF FACEBOOK AND YOUTUBE
STILL WORKING INTO RESPOND HOW
IT WAS THAT NEW ZEALAND ATTACK
VIDEO WAS ON ITS SITE FOR SO
LONG AND STILL MANY QUARTERS,
THOUSANDS OF THEM STILL IS.
TECH ANALYST BLAKE HARRIS SAYS
THERE IS MOUNTING PRESSURE ON
MARK ZUCKERBERG TO HANDLE
SITUATIONS LIKE THESE, BUT WE
WERE CHATTING DURING THE BREAK
THAT COULD PROVE A LOT EASIER
SAID THAN DONE, HUH?
>> I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET
PERSPECTIVE ON THIS WHOLE
SITUATION JUST BECAUSE EVERYONE,
I WAS HORRIFIED IT AS WELL AS
HOW QUICKLY IT SPREAD AND AS WE
WERE DISCUSSING IN THE BREAK,
ONCE IT SPREADS IT CAN'T
UNSPREAD.
HOW MUCH THE GENIE CAN'T GO BACK
IN THE BOTTLE.
NEIL: EVEN IF THEY TAKE IT DOWN,
YOU RECORDED IT OR SHARED IT
WITH SOMEONE DOING THE SAME, IT
IS STILL OUT THERE AND YOU CAN'T
GET UNGET IT OUT THERE?
>> RIGHT.
I THINK IS ENLIGHTENED
PERSPECTIVE FROM ARNOLD
SCHWARZENEGGER MOVIES, YOU
REMEMBER "THE RUNNING MAN"?
NEIL: SURE.
>> IT IS A GLADIATOR REALITY
CRIME SHOW, CRIMINALS GAIN FREE
TIME BUT END UP MURDERED ON TV.
IT IS GORE AND VIOLENCE AND
CONNECTION WITH ENTERTAINMENT,
THE THING I KEPT THINKING OF, AT
LEAST IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE,
SOMEONE WAS RESPONSIBLE,
ACCOUNTABLE, THE NETWORK WAS
THAT PUT ON THE SHOW.
HERE FACEBOOK IS NEVER
RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING.
THEY'RE JUST A MIDDLEMAN.
NEIL: ALSO SCHWARZENEGGER ENDED
IT.
>> WHERE IS OUR SCHWARZENEGGER?
NEIL: BLAKE, LET ME ASK YOU
THIS, MY SON WAS COMMENTING THIS
LOOKED LIKE A "FORTNITE" GAME.
I'M WONDERING THAT HE IS NOT
EXPERT AT "FORTNITE," HE IS AN
EXPERT AT "FORTNITE," I'M
WONDERING GIVING BENEFIT OF THE
DOUBT ALL THOSE WATCHING THIS,
NOT SAYING ANYTHING, IT HAD
SIMILARITIES THERE OF A
STREAMING GAME COMING THROUGH
AND THEN PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE
THE REAL HORROR UNTIL THAT
MOMENT.
THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP
THERE HAS BEEN A MOVE AFOOT,
STOP LIVE STREAMING, DELAY IT,
DO WHAT WE DO IN THE BROADCAST
BUSINESS, SEVEN SECOND DELAY
JUST IN CASE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?
>> I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE
KEY TO THE ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
ANALOGY.
FACEBOOK WE THINK OF THEM AS A
SOCIAL NETWORK BUT THEY ARE A
MEDIA COMPANY.
BUT --
NEIL: BUT THEY HAVE TWO BILLION
USERS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
>> THERE IS NO WAY THAT --
NEIL: NEW ZEALAND ALREADY
BROUGHT THIS TO THEIR ATTENTION.
THEN THEY SHUT IT DOWN BUT.
THERE IS NOT A MECHANISM IN
PLACE TO SHUT SOMETHING DOWN
LIKE PRONTO OR AUTOMATICALLY.
>> RIGHT.
I MEAN THEY HAVE ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE ALGORITHMS THAT
WILL LOOK FOR CUES.
NEIL: THEY WERE NOT FAST ENOUGH.
>> IMPOSSIBLE TO BE FAST ENOUGH
WHEN YOU HAVE 2 BILLION USERS.
THESE WILL BE INEVITABLE
CONSEQUENCES.
IT DID MAKE ME THINK OF INTERNAL
MEMO FROM 2016.
I BROUGHT UP THE EXACT QUOTE, I
DIDN'T WANT TO GET IT WRONG,
THIS IS FROM VP AT FACEBOOK.
TALKING ABOUT GROWTH AT ALL
COSTS ANDREW BOSWORTH.
MAYBE SOMEONE DIES IN TERRORIST
ATTACK COORDINATED ON OUR TOOLS.
WE BELIEVE CONNECTING PEOPLE SO
DEEPLY, ANYTHING THAT ALLOWS US
TO CONNECT PEOPLE MORE OFTEN IS
DEFACTO GOOD.
I'M NOT SITTING HERE PEOPLE AT
FACEBOOK FLIPPING POPCORN IN
THEIR MOUTH HAPPEN WHAT
HAPPENED.
OF COURSE NOT.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE.
THEY ARE HORRIFIED BUT THESE ARE
THE CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT THEY'RE
DOING.
THIS IS PART OF A DEFACTO GOOD
IN THEIR MIND.
NEIL: IS IT IT COULD HAPPEN
AGAIN.
>> I DON'T SEE HOW IT IS NOT
GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN PERHAPS
THIS IS THE SCARIEST PART.
NEIL: HORRENDOUS STREAMING, A
REAL LIVE KILLING IN REAL
SOMETIME STREAMED TO THE WORLD?
>> ESSENTIALLY WHAT FACEBOOK AND
OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES DO,
DEMOCRATIZE CONTENT TO BE YOUR
OWN CHANNEL.
NEIL: YEAH.
>> WHEN YOU HAVE THE
DEMOCRATIZATION THERE WILL BE
TERRORISTS AND MASS MURDERS OUT
THERE WILL BE A PART OF THAT.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO