>> You're telling me these peaceful truckers who are opposing government overreach,
surrounded by kids and, very family oriented affairs that's a threat to the
sovereignty of the government of Canada. I don't think so Justin Trudeau, I don't
think so. But what's amazing they're protesting government overreach says, what's the answer?
More government overreach? Like,
how does that even make sense? >> Okay, so, yes, according to their laughing
giggly logic, if these protesters cloak whatever it is that they're issue is in any given protest.
As being against government overreach, then obviously the government can never
do anything because then via the laws of irony, that would only be proving them right.
Which in some cases certainly could be true and we can and probably will pick
apart the decision to invoke this emergency order by the Canadian government. But Dan
I just love their the unwillingness to be real about what the protest is
like to say that they're surrounded by kids and family affairs.
Like you don't even know what you're saying at that point. Like many of the
protesters perfectly peaceful, they're just there. I might disagree with them, they're just there,
but it is not the case that they're all just threaded by family affairs,
whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.
So what have you been thinking
about these ongoing protests? >> Yeah, well, the Fox coverage,
especially, John I see a familiar script that as many astute watchers of the damage reported,
people on the left. No, John, whenever Fox News is covering a protest that has to do with any
leftist or leftist center kind of social issue, it's what are the protesters doing?
They're crazy. They're looters, they're writers, they're damaging property. Watch out for them.
But I remember back in the day when Fox news was covering the Bundy protests where you had
a convenient situation where you had armed thugs arguably. Who were taking up
arms against the government for whatever land dispute they're having.
And Fox news coverage was, look at these patriots, look at these
wonderful people and look at what they're doing. So even though, I mean, especially because this
is a story that's happening in Canada is way out of Fox news's wheelhouse. I challenge, I mean,
anyone to find consistent 30 seconds of time in the past two months before this, that Fox news,
especially Fox and friends in the morning has talked about Canada in any way like this.
It is yeah. >> Like this is the
most Canadian the news has ever been. >> And we should do a little bit more
of it. Like hockey is fun. But I'm just gonna say that Fox news has an interest
in peddling a political agenda here. So just copy pasting old
strategies if it's a protest they like, then they have a whole rhetoric to say these are Americans.
There are Canadians or whatever it is, they're having their freedoms being impinged upon. And so
we have to care. But of course, if it's anything that has to do with a social justice issue
then Fox News is first to attack it. >> Yeah, and and some conservative
watching this might think, well hey then aren't you doing the exact opposite?
You just like the protests you like you want to shut down the free speech of everyone. You don't
well again, for one thing like actually watch the content before you tell me what it is that
I'm advocating for, have I called for them to be hauled off the streets of cities across Canada?
No, I honestly don't know exactly what the answer should be. I definitely am not one of those that
up until this protest, the right totally encapsulates which is a protest can never
be inconvenient. I don't believe that. I don't think we can debate on individual cases whether
like blocking traffic is tactically a good idea, but I definitely think it should be allowed.
I'm not saying they should be hauled away, but I would love any conservative to watch this
who is watching this to answer the question. Okay, so then for how long and your knee jerk
reaction might be no, they can shut down these cities forever for 10 years if they have to.
I don't think that you actually thought that through before you came to that conclusion.
But let's actually talk if you have a protest that is trying to draw awareness to something which as
we'll show people are aware of it. They're not being convinced by the protest, although again,
protests are under no obligation to have everyone gradually come to agree with them.
So then for how long and I have never heard anyone in Fox answer the question of what is a reasonable
amount? Now, we know, as you alluded to up until these protests that these are not hypothetical
hypocrisy is that we're describing, Kayleigh Mcenany was the second the press secretary.
For a government that did, let's just say overreach when it came to responding to the
protests that sprang up from the killing of George Floyd. Donald trump was black bagging
people in the cities and shoving them in the back of unmarked minivans and she was perfectly
happy with that outnumbered wasn't giggling about how ridiculous that was at that point.
So I'm just saying we're here trying to be understanding and trying to demonstrate
actual principles when it comes to protest. Whether we agree with the protests or not,
could you at least pretend to do that. Could you
cosplay actually caring about any of the content of what you're getting all worked
up about and Dan, I don't think that it's gonna happen, this is all just opportunism.
That's all it is. >> Definitely not.
And as I think you're gonna get into in a moment the idea that these protests are
they're just simply peaceful, these are just families going around here. And let's remember
they are protesting, vaccine mandates more or less. These are right wing ideologues and
as you're gonna get into I think in a moment these aren't totally freedom loving, safe people.
These are actually people with somewhat violent intentions that you'll find that people on Fox
news have no problem fanning the flames of. >> Yeah and some I think are just,
they've been messed up by the news basically. Like I think
protests and being really passionate about things can be a great thing.
But this of all things you could get the shot and you'd be fine. You'd be
better actually cuz you'd be as protected as you can be medicinally from the virus.
Like this is the thing to get worked up about again. Like I said like I think
you should be able to block traffic, you should be able to do whatever.
But if I did it just because I was so pissed that NF that netflix didn't do
a second season of dark crystal. Like you can look at that and say
really that's your cause well that's what I'm doing, that's what I'm doing.