>> LAST WEEK THE VOTE IS CLEAR
THAT THE GOVERNMENT'S APPROACH
HAD TO CHANGE AND IT HAS.
>> [LAUGHTER]
>> HAVING ESTABLISHED THE
CONFIDENCE OF PARLIAMENT IN THIS
GOVERNMENT, I'VE LISTENED TO
COLLEAGUES ACROSS PARLIAMENT
FROM DIFFERENT PARTIES AND WITH
DIFFERENT VIEWS.
I REGRET, I REGRET THAT THE
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION HAS NOT
CHOSEN TO TAKE PART.
DAVID: THAT WAS THERESA MAY
SPEAKING AT PARLIAMENT EARLIER
TODAY SAYING AND ADMITTING
ESSENTIALLY THAT SINCE HER FIRST
BREXIT PLAN WENT DOWN IN FLAMES
SHE'S READY FOR PLAN B.
NIGEL FARAGE IS A MEMBER OF THE
EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT SO FROM WHAT
I CAN TELL PLAN B DOESN'T SOUND
A LOT DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE
THAT WENT DOWN IN FLAMES, SO
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT?
>> NO, NO, PLAN B IS PLAN A,
MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THAT.
SHE'S HOPING TO GET SOME
CONCESSIONS FROM BRUSSELS, AND
SHE'LL TRY AND RENEGOTIATE THAT
BUT I DON'T SEE MUCH PROSPECT OF
IT.
TIME IS NOW RUNNING OUT THERE
ARE 68 DAYS AGO UNTIL WE'RE DUE
TO HAVE BREXIT.
LEGALLY OF COURSE, THE POSITION
IS THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE A DEAL,
WE LEAVE WITH NO DEAL, WHICH
I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH, BREXIT
EERS HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
BUT PARLIAMENT HAS A MASSIVE
PROBLEM WITH AND I HAVE A HALF A
DOZEN OPTIONS ON THE TABLE IF
YOU WANT MY PREDICTION RIGHT NOW
I THINK SHE'S GOING TO BECOME
DESPERATE AND TRY TO KICK THE
CAN DOWN THE ROAD BY EXTENDING
THAT IS MY BEST GUESS RIGHT NOW,
GIVEN IT'S TOUGH TO SEE ANY
OTHER SOLUTION.
>> NIGEL, CHRISTINA
PARTSINEVELOS HERE.
IN THE PAST I'VE HEARD YOU SPEAK
AND SAY YOU WANT THE MOST FAIR
OPTION YOU ARGUE WE SHOULD GO
AHEAD WITH IT BUT WOULDN'T YOU
SAY THE ORIGINAL REFERENDUM WAS
PARTIALLY BASED ON LIES
ESPECIALLY 350 MILLION POUNDS TO
GO TO THE NHS, AND THE FACT THIS
LATER UGOV POLL THAT CAME OUT
WEDNESDAY SAYING THOSE WANT TO
STAY, THERE'S THE 12-POINT LEAD
FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO STAY,
AND PERHAPS MAYBE A SECOND
REFERENDUM MIGHT BE IN THE CARDS
OR SHOULD BE IN THE CARDS, WHAT
DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL, THE IDEA THAT THIS IS
BASED ON LIES, YOU COULD ARGUE
THAT EVERY ELECTION IN HISTORY
IS BASED ON LIES.
>> [LAUGHTER]
OKAY GOOD POINT.
GOOD POINT.
>> FOR OLD TIME COME ON, 350 A
WEEK MAY HAVE BEEN --
>> BUT IT'S NOT ONLY THAT
THERE'S A FEW THINGS AND I FEEL
LIKE THE PUBLIC WAS DECEIVED AND
JUST UNAWARE OF THE
REPERCUSSIONS OF THE BREXIT.
>> NO, NO, NO, LOOK OF COURSE
THEY WEREN'T DECEIVED.
THE REAL DECEPTION WAS ON THE
OTHER SIDE.
WE HAD 50 YEARS OF BEING TOLD IT
WAS JUST A COMMON MARKET AND
THEN IT BECAME A POLITICAL UNION
SO WHEN IT COMES TO LIES, THE
OTHER SIDE HAVE TOTAL SUPREMACY.
LOOK, THIS WAS THE BIGGEST
DEMOCRATIC EXERCISE IN THE
HISTORY OF OUR NATION, NUMBER
ONE.
NUMBER TWO, WE HAD A GENERAL
ELECTION A YEAR AFTERWARDS, BOTH
THE LABOR AND CONSERVATIVE
PARTIES SAID THEY WOULD TAKE US
OUT AND THEY GOT OVER 80% OF THE
VOTE.
POINT NUMBER THREE, 498 NP'S
VOTED FOR ARTICLE 50 WHICH
CLEARLY SAID WE EITHER HAVE AN
AGREEMENT OR WE LEAVE WITH NO
DEAL.
NOT TO LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION
WOULD BE A MASSIVE BETRAYAL OF
DEMOCRACY AND DON'T BE CONNED BY
THESE POLLS COMMISSIONED, YOU
KNOW, BY THE SIDE ASKING
QUESTIONS IN A CERTAIN WAY.
NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO VOTED
LEAVE HAS CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
>> NIGEL, LIZ PEEK HERE.
QUESTIONS FOR YOU IS THERE ANY
CHANCE, DO YOU THINK, THAT THE E
U IS GOING TO HELP THERESA MAY
OUT BY COMING UP WITH SOME
CHANGES TO THE ORIGINAL DEAL
THAT SHE CAN TAKE TO PARLIAMENT
IF NOT NOW AND I WOULD AGREE
THAT IT SEEMS SENSIBLE TO EXTEND
THE DATE IN THE NEXT THREE OR
FOUR MONTHS.
WILL THERE BE ANY CHANGE IN
THEIR VIEW DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL I WASN'T ARGUING TO
EXTEND THE DEAL, I WAS ARGUING
THAT IT'S WHAT MAY HAPPEN.
>> YEAH, OKAY.
>> ACTUALLY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT?
THE ANSWER IS YES.
I THINK IF THERE WAS A CHANGE TO
THE IRISH BACKSTOP, IF THERE WAS
A CHANGE TO THIS TRAP, TO KEEP
US STUCK INSIDE THE EUROPEAN
CUSTOMS RULES INDEFINITELY.
IF THERE WAS A SUNSET CLAUSE, A
TIME LIMITED CLAUSE THEN THERESA
MAY DESPITE THE LOSS OF 230
VOTES LAST WEEK WOULD FACE SOME
CHANCE OF GETTING IT THROUGH, SO
YEAH, YOU KNOW, IF THE GERMAN
CAR INDUSTRY, IF THE FRENCH WINE
INDUSTRY STARTED TO PUT PRESSURE
ON TO SAY LOOK, MAKE A
CONCESSION, IT'S STILL NOT
IMPOSSIBLE THAT AT THE 11TH HOUR
A DEAL OF SOME KIND GETS AGREED.
>> BUT NIGEL, THIS IS GARY
KALTBAUM HERE THANKS FOR BEING
ON WITH US.
THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 2016, WAS THE
VOTE.
WE'RE NOW IN 2019 AND IT SEEMS
LIKE IT'S STILL ON THE TREADMILL
AND LAST I READ, DON'T WE HAVE
AMENDMENTS COMING IN THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS, AS YOU
MENTIONED YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THE NORTHERN IRELAND AND IRELAND
ALSO AND THAT BACKSTOP, ARE WE
GOING TO BE HERE IN 2020 STILL
DISCUSSING THAT?
>> DO YOU KNOW, IT IS A TOTAL
FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP, FROM OUR
PRIME MINISTER AND OUR BRITISH
CLASS THAT HERE WE ARE, 31
MONTHS ON, FROM THE REFERENDUM
AND GIVEN THE LOSS LAST WEEK
WE'VE MADE NO PROGRESS.
IT IS PATHETIC, IT IS PITIFUL,
WE'RE BECOMING A LAUGHING STOCK
AROUND THE WORLD.
IT'S A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP,
AND HERE IS WHY.
WE VOTED A LEAVE, TO LEAVE THE
INSTITUTIONS OF THE EUROPEAN
UNION, AND WHAT THERESA MAY HAS
TRIED TO DO IS TO FORM A CLOSE
AND SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE EUROPEAN UNION.
WHEN IN LIFE, THERE'S A FORK IN
THE ROAD, YOU HAVE TO TAKE A
ROUTE AND GO WITH IT.
SHE HAS TRIED TO APPEASE BOTH
SIDES AND FAILED DISMALLY.
>> NIGEL IT'S JONATHAN HOENIG.
THERE'S PREDICTIONS OF MASS
ECONOMIC CATASTROPHE IF THERE IS
A HARD BREXIT THE POUND WILL
FALL 10-15% THE BRITISH STOCK
MARKET WILL FALL.
WHAT'S YOUR PREDICTION FOR THE
BRITISH ECONOMY AND STOCK MARKET
>> THIS IS PROJECT FAIR, IT IS
A TOTAL UTTER RUBBISH.
WE HAD THE SAME ARGUMENTS 20
YEARS AGO IF WE DIDN'T JOIN THE
EURO, CATASTROPHE WOULD FALL.
GET A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE HERE.
5% OF THE UK ECONOMY IS
EXPORTING GOODS TO EUROPE.
7% IS EXPORTING GOODS TO EUROPE.
I'VE NOT PRETENDING THAT'S NOT
IMPORTANT BUT WHAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT, ENDING TRADE, CUTTING
BRITAIN OFF.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE WORSE
CASE SCENARIO, TARIFFS ON OUR
PRODUCTS.
THOSE TARIFFS ARE LESS THAN THE
AVERAGE MOVEMENT OF OUR CURRENCY
AGAINST THE EURO EVERY SINGLE
MONTH, AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS
THE BIG CORPORATE LOVIE TRYING
TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO.
THESE FEARS ARE UNFOUNDED AND I
PROMISE YOU THIS.
IF WE LEAVE ON NO DEAL, AND I
HOPE WE DO, IF WE LEAVE ON NO
DEAL, AND THE STOCK MARKET GOES
DOWN AND THE POUND GOES DOWN,
BUY THEM BOTH.
DAVID: NIGEL VERY QUICKLY WE'VE
GOT TO GO BUT IT'S SO
INTERESTING HOW BRITAIN AND THE
UNITED STATES VERY OFTEN
PARALLEL EACH OTHER AND GO
THROUGH THE SAME THINGS.
WE NOW HAVE A DISFUNCTIONAL
GOVERNMENT.
YOU SEEM TO HAVE A DISFUNCTIONAL
GOVERNMENT.
WHAT'S THE END RESULT?
IS THIS A NATURAL KIND OF BREAK
UP OF THE ESTABLISHMENT THE
POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT OF BOTH
COUNTRIES, QUICKLY.
>> YEAH, LOOK, YOU KNOW, BREXIT
AND TRUMP WERE THE BIGGEST SHOCK
TO WESTERN WORLD POLITICS WE'VE
SEEN IN MODERN TIMES.
THE OTHER SIDE THE ESTABLISHMENT
CAN'T ACCEPT IT.
THEY'RE FIGHTING BACK AS HARD AS
THEY CAN, BUT THE ONE FACTOR YOU
MUST NOT FORGET IS THE JEANIE IS
OUT OF THE BOTTLE.
PEOPLE WANT BREXIT, PEOPLE WANT
TRUMP AND THOSE RESULTS OF 2016