COMFORTABLE PUTTING IT ALL
OUT THERE.
THEY CAN TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR ANY OF THE DOWNSIDE THAT
GOES ALONG WITH IT.
PETE: YOU’RE AWARE OF THE
DULING MEMOS IN WASHINGTON,
D.C.
THE DEMOCRATS ARE CONFIDENT
ABOUT FISA MEMO COUNTERING
CLAIMS OF FBI SURVEILLANCE
ABUSE.
BUT, PRESIDENT TRUMP NOT
READY TO RELEASE IT YET TO
THE PUBLIC.
ASKING DEMOCRATS TO REVISE
THEIR DOCUMENT BECAUSE OF
NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS.
HERE TO SOUND OFF ON ALL OF
THIS IS OUR RADIO TALK SHOW
HOST PANEL RICK UNGAR, CATHY
BARNETT AND ANDREW WILLCALL
ALL JOIN US HERE.
RICK, I WILL START WITH YOU.
THE DEMOCRATS HOWLED BUT
SOURCES AND METHODS IN THE
REPUBLICAN MEMO THERE WERE
NO REVELATIONS IN THAT THEN
THEY JAM-PACKED THEIR OWN
MEMO WITH SOURCES AND
METHODS AND WONDER WHY THEY
WANT -- THE WHITE HOUSE OR
OUR INTELLIGENCE OFFICES MAY
WANT SOME THINGS REDACTED.
>> HERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT
I SEE.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT MADE A
MISTAKE.
HE SHOULD HAVE REDACTED
SOMETHING IN THE ORIGINAL
NUNES MEMO SO HE COULD SAY
SEE, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
NATIONAL SECURITY AS THE FBI
AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
WERE.
BUT HE DIDN’T.
NOW, WHEN HE HAS PROBLEMS
WITH WHAT’S IN THE
DEMOCRATS’ MEMO, FIRST OF
ALL, IF I WERE HIM, I WOULD
HAVE HAD MY NATIONAL
SECURITY TEAM DO SOME
REDACTIONS.
BUT BY SENDING IT BACK, THE
PRO-TRUMPERS ARE GOING TO GO
I UNDERSTAND IT’S NATIONAL
SECURITY.
THE ANTI-TRUMPERS ARE GOING
TO SAY YOU JUST DON’T WANT
US TO SEE IT, BUT IT’S THE
PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE A
PROBLEM WITH THIS.
PETE: YOU ARE TALKING
POLITICS AND OPTICS.
YOU ARE SAYING REDACT.
>> THAT’S WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT.
PETE: THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS
SHOULD BE ABOUT THOUGH.
>> DEMOCRATS GOT EXACTLY
WEIGH THAT WANTED.
THEY WANTED CONTINUATION OF
THIS CAMPAIGN OF
DISINFORMATION.
MUDDYING THE WATER.
THAT’S THE REASON WHY THEY
HAVE A REBUTTAL WHAT DO YOU
NEED A REBUTTAL FOR?
JUST PRESENT THE FACTS.
BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE NOT AS
DUMB AS MOST POLITICIANS
SEEM TO THINK THAT WE ARE.
WE HAVE SOME REAL ISSUES
HERE.
I BELIEVE THAT WE’RE IN THE
MIDST OF A POSSIBLE
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
I DON’T KNOW IF DEMOCRATS
HAVE HEARD OF THIS THING
CALLED THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.
BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE
SECURE.
IN OUR PERSONS, IN OUR HOME
AND OUR PAPERS.
AND AGAINST UNREASONABLE UNSEAR.
EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SEEN SO
FAR.
THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT
OF WRONGDOING FROM THE
DEMOCRATS AGAINST OUR
DEMOCRACY.
PETE: ANDREW, BOTH SIDES
ALLEGING HIM IS I IN THESE
MEMOS.
WHO IS RIGHT?
>> AS LONG AS THERE IS NO
SOURCES AND METHODS, RIGHT?
THAT’S BEEN THE WHOLE THING.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE
DEMOCRATS ARE THE FRIENDS OF
THE BADGE, RIGHT?
ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE THE
PRO-LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD.
AND THEN THE REPUBLICANS
HATE THE COPS.
THAT’S RIDICULOUS.
I THINK THE HYPOCRISY IS
MORE, RICK, NO OFFENSE, ON
THE DEMOCRATS’ SIDE.
>> WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?
>> YOU DON’T REDACT
SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF
REDACAING AMERICANS WITH
DISABILITIES ACTING.
IF THERE SOMETHING THAT THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY SAYS
LOOK, THIS IS GOING TO BE
HARMFUL TO NATIONAL
SECURITY.
NO, IS THERE EVIDENCE THAT
DONALD TRUMP OR ANY OF HIS
ASSOCIATES WERE WIRETAPPED
OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES LIKE
SHE SAID OF THE FOURTH
AMENDMENT, THAT’S WHAT NEEDS
TO BE MADE PUBLIC.
>> CAN I RESPOND TO THE
FIRST AMENDMENT THING REAL
QUICKLY.
HERE’S THE REALITY I AGREE
WITH YOU BOTH ON THE FOURTH
AMENDMENT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHY
THIS VERY SAME CONGRESSIONAL
COMMITTEE REAPPROVED HOW
FISA OPERATES NOT FOUR WEEKS
AGO.
THEY HAD THE CHANCE TO MAKE
--
>> -- AND RAND PAUL WAS OUT
FRONT OF THAT.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
PETE: THERE IS CHANGES THAT
COULD AND SHOULD BE MADE.
>> TOOLS.
PETE: IF USED PROPERLY VERY
IMPORTANT TOOL.
ARE DEMOCRATS TRULY AFTER
THE TRUTH OR ARE THEY AFTER
TRUMP?
>> YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD
PROBABLY HAVE TO ASK EACH
DEMOCRAT.
>> THEY ARE AFTER TRUMP.
>> I AM AFTER THE TRUTH.
MY PROBLEM IS THAT IF YOU
ARE GOING TO RELEASE --
LOOK, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW
THIS DEMOCRATIC MEMO, IT’S
GONNA GET OUT.
IT’S GONNA GET LEAKED.
PETE: THE PRESIDENT SAID HE
WOULD RELEASE IT.
>> NO HE, DIDN’T.
HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO
EXTEND BACK.
>> ILLEGAL LEAKING.
>> REPUBLICANS DIDN’T LEAK
THEIRS?
WE ALL KNEW WHAT WAS IN THE
NUNES MEMO.
[TALKING AT THE SAME TIME]
PETE: COUNTING ON LEAK
SOMETHING A BACK HANDED WAY
TO HOPE FOR AN ARGUMENT.
>> WHAT IF THE DEMOCRATS
TAKE IT TO THE FLOOR AND
READ IT INTO THE
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD?
THAT’S ANOTHER OPTION.
>> BY ALL OF THEIR