STATE ALREADY GOING TOE TO TOE OVER SO-CALLED SANCTUARY CITIES.
SIMONE BOISE CAUGHT UP WITH
I.C.E. IN LOS ANGELES TO LEARN
MORE.
MORE. >> THIS TARGET HAS THREE PRIOR
REMOVALS FROM THE UNITED STATES.
>> IT’S 5:00 A.M. IN LOS ANGELES
AND THESE I.C.E. AGENTS HAVE A
LIST OF NAMES THEY’RE AFTER .
INDIVIDUALS THEY SAY CROSSED THE
BORDER ILLEGALLY AND HAVE BEEN
CHARGED WITH CRIMES ON AMERICAN
SOIL.
SOIL. THAT’S DAVID MAREN, FIELD
DIRECTOR FOR I.C.E. IN L.A.
I.C.E. ASKED THAT WE CONCEAL
OTHER AGENTS’ FACES.
THESE AGENTS HAVE BEEN
SURVEILLING THE MEN FOR WEEKS.
THEY KNOW THE CAR THEY DRIVE,
WHAT TIME THEY DROP THEIR KIDS
OFF AT SCHOOL AND WHAT ROUTE
THEY TAKE TO WORK.
>> THIS WAS A TRUCK RIGHT BEHIND
YOU WITH ITS LIGHTS ON.
I’M GOING TO SWING RIGHT BEHIND
THAT TRUCK.
THAT TRUCK. DECEMBER 24th HE WAS ARRESTED
FOR VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER.
SO WE PLACED A DETAINER.
FOR SOME REASON THEY DIDN’T TURN
HIM OVER TO US.
IF THEY WOULD HAVE TURNED HIM
OVER TO US RIGHT THEN AND THERE
IN THE JAIL, WOULDN’T HAVE TO
USE THE RESOURCES.
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♪ >> HE’S BEEN DEPORTED TWICE
BEFORE.
BEFORE. THIS GUY COMES OUT ANY TIME
AFTER 7:50.
AFTER 7:50. HE SHOULD BE COMING OUT SOON.
>> TODAY THEY’RE ABLE TO ARREST
THREE OF THE FIVE UNDOCUMENTED
PEOPLE WITHOUT INCIDENT.
HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE A
SUCCESSFUL DAY DOING
APPREHENSIONS?
APPREHENSIONS? >> EXACTLY WHAT YOU’VE SEEN SO
FAR.
FAR. US GETTING A CRIMINAL OFF THE
STREET AND OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
>> BUT FOR I.C.E., THIS ISN’T
IDEAL.
IDEAL. THEY SAY THEIR HANDS ARE TIED BY
SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES,
POLICIES I.C.E. CALLS A THREAT
TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
AMERICAN SANCTUARY CITIES
EMERGED IN THE ’70s AND ’80s.
TODAY 39 COMMUNITIES IN FOUR
STATES BILL THEMSELVES AS SAFE
HAVENS FOR UNDOCUMENTED
IMMIGRANTS.
IMMIGRANTS. GENERALLY SPEAKING THESE
JURISDICTIONS LIMIT COOPERATION
WITH FEDERAL IMMIGRATION AGENTS
BY NOT HONORING DETAINMENT
REQUESTS AND DENYING ICE ACCESS
TO JAILS AND PRISONS.
>> SANCTUARY POLICIES ARE
PROTECTING CRIMINAL ALIENS.
THEY PREVENT LAW ENFORCEMENT
FROM WORKING WITH I.C.E.
AGAIN, WE DON’T ASK THEM TO DO
OUR JOB.
OUR JOB. WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO IS NOTIFY
US WHEN SOMEBODY WE WANT IS IN
THEIR CUSTODY.
THEIR CUSTODY. >> EVEN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
CRITICIZED SANCTUARY CITIES,
ANGERING HIS BASE.
WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE WE’RE
HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT THEM NOW?
>> THEY’RE BRINGING DRUGS.
THEY’RE BRINGING CRIME.
THEY’RE RAPISTS.
THEY’RE RAPISTS. >> IT GOES BACK TO 2015 AND THE
START OF DONALD TRUMP’S
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE
POINTED TO VIOLENT CRIMES AND
SILL ING
SILL ING KILLINGS IN SANCTUARY CITIES.
EARLIER THIS YEAR A FEDERAL
APPEALS COURT DID GRANT THE
ADMINISTRATION AUTHORITY TO
AWARD PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR
CERTAIN POLICING GRANTS WHEN
CITIES COOPERATE WITH
IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES.
IMMIGRATION AUTHORITIES. >> IT SEEMS TO KEEP ALL OF US
WITH THIS IMAGE OF CRIMINALITY.
SO IT’S VERY EASY TO USE THE
MOST EGREGIOUS CASE, RAPE AND
MURDER, BUT THOSE ARE SUCH FEW
INSTANCES.
INSTANCES. YET THEY’RE USED IN ORDER TO
ALLOW FOR ALL OF THESE OTHER
MILLIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS TO BE
DEPORTED.
DEPORTED. >> THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR FOR THE COALITION OF
HUMANE IMMIGRANT RIGHTS LOS
ANGELES.
ANGELES. HER ORGANIZATION CLAIMS
SANCTUARY CITY POLICIES KEEP
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES SAFE.
>> IN PLACES LIKE LOS ANGELES
COUNTY AND CITY, WHAT HAS
HAPPENED IS ALL THEY’VE DONE IS
SET A HIGHER BAR IN MAKING
DETERMINATIONS AS TO WHO IS
GOING TO BE TURNED OVER TO
I.C.E.
I.C.E. I THINK IT SAFEGUARDS OUR
COMMUNITY.
COMMUNITY. IT SAFE DPARDSGUARDS FAMILIES AN
ALSO CREATES A SITUATION IN
WHICH PEOPLE INDEPENDENT OF
THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS TRUST
THE POLICE TO FIGHT CRIME.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE I.C.E.
ABOLISHED?
ABOLISHED? >> THIS IS AN AGENCY THAT’S
ROGUE.
ROGUE. I THINK THAT AMERICANS NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE
PAYING FOR VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN
RIGHTS.
RIGHTS. I DON’T THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE
SO CLOSED MINDED TO THIS IDEA
THAT MAYBE IF WE LOOK A LITTLE
DEEPER, THIS IS A LAW
ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM THAT HAS TO
BE REFORMULATED.
BE REFORMULATED. THAT’S DIFFERENT FROM SAYING WE
DON’T NEED TO SECURE OUR
BORDERS.
BORDERS. >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SUED
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FOR
OBSTRUCTING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION
ENFORCEMENT.
ENFORCEMENT. THEY LOST.
THEY LOST. A FEDERAL COURT UPHELD THE
CALIFORNIA VALUES ACT, RULING,
QUOTE, STANDING ASIDE DOES NOT
EQUATE TO STANDING IN THE WAY.
>> DEPORTATION IS THE
CONSEQUENCE THAT COMES WITH
ENTERING INTO THE COUNTRY
ILLEGALLY.
ILLEGALLY. DO YOU THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE
DECRIMINALIZED?
DECRIMINALIZED? >> I THINK OUR KBRAGSIMMIGRATION
ARE SET UP SO PEOPLE OF COLOR DO
NOT HAVE ACCESS TO LEGAL
MIGRATION IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> EVEN THE PROPORTION OF PEOPLE
DEPORTED VIA INTERIOR REMOVALS
NOT AT THE BORDER HAS TICKED
BACK DOWN.
BACK DOWN. THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING HERE
BACK AT THE I.C.E. STAGING
FACILITY IN DOWNTOWN L.A.
TODAY’S DETAINEES ARE BEING
PROCESSED.
PROCESSED. SOME WILL HAVE THEIR DAY IN
IMMIGRATION COURT AND LEARN
WHETHER THEY’LL FACE
DEPORTATION.
DEPORTATION. IMMIGRATION RIGHTS GROUPS SAY
THAT POLICIES HELP PROTECT
FAMILIES AND KEEP FAMILIES
INTACT.
INTACT. THEY DON’T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY
WHO HAVE NOT COMMITTED A CRIME
GET SWEPT UP INTO THESE
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS.
ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS. >> I THINK WHAT THEY’RE REALLY
DOING IS THEY’RE FORCING US TO
BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY MORE.
WITHOUT THESE SANCTUARY CITY
POLICIES IF WE COULD WORK IN THE
JAILS, THAT’S WHERE WE WOULD BE
ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE.
ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE. BECAUSE OF SANCTUARY POLICIES,
WE CAN’T BE IN THE JAILS.
WE’RE OUT ON THE STREETS.
THAT’S WHERE WE’RE GOING TO BE
ENCOUNTING PEOPLE ING
ENCOUNTERING PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY.
>> HIS TWO YOUNG CHILDREN WERE
INSIDE AS HE WAS ARRESTED.
>> Translator: WHY DID I COME
HERE FROM GUATEMALA?
BECAUSE THERE’S A LOT OF
INSECURITY.
INSECURITY. THERE’S NO WORK.
MY WHOLE FAMILY IS HERE.
I DON’T HAVE ANYONE IN
GUATEMALA.
GUATEMALA. THAT’S WHY I’M HERE.
I THINK I’M GOING TO DO THE SAME
THING AGAIN.
THING AGAIN. I CAN’T BE OVER THERE.
I DON’T HAVE ANYONE.
I DON’T KNOW HOW I’M GOING TO DO
IT BUT I NEED TO BE HERE WITH MY
KIDS.
KIDS. >> A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER WE
SPOKE, HE WAS REMOVED TO
GUATEMALA AGAIN.
TO GUATEMALA AGAIN. ONE MAN SAID IF HE SUPPORTED THE
GUATEMALANS HE WILL COME BACK
OVER THE U.S. BORDER.
HE WILL TRY AGAIN.
WHAT’S YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU THINK
ABOUT HOW THIS WHOLE SYSTEM
WORKS?
WORKS? >> I MEAN, IT’S UNFORTUNATE.
THAT INDIVIDUAL HAS ALREADY BEEN
REMOVED TWICE TO GUATEMALA AND
NOW HE’S TELLING US THAT, GO
AHEAD AND REMOVE ME BUT I’M
GOING TO COME BACK.
THAT SPEAKS TO THE NEED FOR
IMMIGRATION REFORM.
IMMIGRATION REFORM. >> THE NEED FOR REFORM IS
ACTUALLY SOMETHING BOTH SIDES