>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.
RIGHT HERE?
THIS ONE?
THAT ONE?
THEE WE GO.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK.
FOLKS, MY FIRST GUEST IS AN ACTOR AND DIRECTOR YOU KNOW FROM
"THE PLANET OF THE APES" FILMS, "BLACK PANTHER," AND, MY
PERSONAL FAVORITE, AS GOLLUM FROM "THE LORD OF THE RINGS."
HE NOW STARS IN "THE BATMAN."
>> OUR ACCOUNTING FRIEND AT WAYNE ENTERPRISES ARE COMING FOR
BREAKFAST.
>> HERE, WHY.
>> BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET YOU TO GO THERE.
>> THIS IS SERIOUS, BRUCE.
IF THIS CONTINUES IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE YOU HAVE NOTHING
LEFT.
>> I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
>> YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR FAMILY'S LEGACY?
>> WHAT I'M DOING IS MY FAMILY'S LEGACY.
IF I CAN'T CHANGE THINGS HERE, IF I CAN'T HAVE AN EFFECT, I
DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO ME.
ME.
STOP.
YOU'RE NOT MY FATHER.
>> I'M WELL AWARE.
>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "THE LATE SHOW," ANDY SERKIS.
♪ ♪ ♪ ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
HELLO.
>> Stephen: VERY FEW OF MY GUESTS JIG THEIR WAY OUT HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA EFFORT.
>> I'M A LITTLE EXHAUSTED NOW, I HAVE TO SAY.
>> Stephen: TAKE IT EASY.
I'LL TAKE FROM HERE.
I'LL ASK THE QUESTIONS.
YOU JUST GIVE THE ANSWERS.
I JUST SAW THE NEW "THE BATMAN."
I LOVED YOUR ALFRED PENNYWORTH.
HOW WAS YOUR ALFRED A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN PREVIOUS
ALFRED-BATMAN RELATIONSHIPS WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.
>> MATT REEVES, WHO WROTE AND DIRECTED IT, WANTED TO CREATE AN
EMOTIONAL RELATIONSHIP, A VERY DEEPLY EMOTIONAL ONE, WHICH IS
SORT OF-- THEY'RE NOT KIND OF ON SONG, AS THEY NORMALLY ARE.
ALFRED AND BATMAN GOING OUT AND FACING THE FAUX TOGETHER.
WE WANTED TO CREATE TENSION IN THE RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S BASICALLY HOW WE MEET BATMAN, WHICH IS ROBERT
PATTINSON'S BRUCE WAYNE IS VERY VULNERABLE, AND HE'S ON A BIT OF
A SELF-DESTRUCTIVE MISSION, AND HE'S PUSHING AT ALFRED, AS YOU
SAW FROM THE CLIP.
HE'S SORT OF PUSHING HIM AWAY.
AND ALFRED JUST FEELS LIKE HE CAN'T-- HE CAN'T CONNECT WITH
HIM.
HEALEY NEVER FILL THE VOID OF BEING A FATHER FIGURE FOR HIM.
SO IT'S KIND OF REALLY-- IT'S SHIFTING SANDS, THEIR
RELATIONSHIP.
>> Stephen: WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING AWAY, THIS ISN'T REALLY
AN ORIGIN STORY.
YOU'RE-- HE'S ALREADY BATMAN AND YOU'RE ALREADY WORRIED THAT HE'S
THROUGHOUT BEING BATMAN.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
HE'S CAUSING HIMSELF-- HE'S GOING OUT EVERY NIGHT AND TRYING
TO BE A VIGILANTE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE SELF-DESTRUCT BUTTON
ANYTHING, AND HE SEES THE PAIN.
>> Stephen: THERE'S SO MUCH ANTICIPATION FOR THIS MOVIE
RIGHT NOW, THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEING USED AS A CUDGEL AGAINST
THE RUSSIANS BY NOT PLAYING IT THERE.
IT'S ONE OF THE SANCTIONS BEING LEVELED AGAINST RUSSIA IS THEY
DON'T GET THIS MOVIE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Stephen: VERY POWERFUL.
YOU'RE IN A VERY POWERFUL POSITION RIGHT NOW.
>> THE MOVIE IS A POWERFUL THING.
>> Stephen: IT IS A VERY POWERFUL THING.
YOU WERE IN "BLACK PANTHER," VENOM, LET THERE BE CARNAGE, YOU
DIRECTED.
NOW YOU'RE IN THE "THE BATMAN," SO LEGALLY I HAVE TO ASK YOU ARE
YOU A MARVEL GUY OR A D.C. GUY?
AND BE VERY CAREFUL HOW YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
>> I WAS JUST THINKING WHO IS GOING TO EMPLOY ME THE MOST
AFTER THIS MOMENT?
WELL...
NO, I LOVE BOTH WORLDS.
( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: REAL COURAGE.
>> BECAUSE-- BECAUSE-- BECAUSE, LOOK, I MEAN, I LOVE THE
BRIGHTNESS AND THE BOLDNESS OF MARVEL STORIES.
THEY'RE ALL MYTHOLOGIST, AND I LIKE D.C. --
>> Stephen: THEY'RE KIND OF FAIRY STORIES THEMSELVES, LIKE
TOLKIEN IS.
LIKE A MODERN FAIRY STORY.
>> FOR OUR GENERATION, WHICH IS WHY THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT-- YOU
KNOW, THEY TOUCH ON REAL HUMAN EMOTIONS, ON WORLD, YOU KNOW,
EVENTS ON WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US.
THEY ARE GREAT ALLEGORIES FOR OUR TIMES.
>> Stephen: WELL, WE HUMAN BEINGS LEARN THROUGH
STORYTELLING.
>> CORRECT.
>> Stephen: AND THIS IS A COMMON STORY FOR US TO SHARE AND
BUILDS A SENSE OF COMMUNITIES.
ONE OF THE GREAT COMMUNITIES YOU HAVE BEEN PART OF OF COURSE IS
"LORD OF THE RINGS," WHICH JUST CELEBRATED 20 YEARS SINCE IT WAS
FIRST RELEASED.
AND I CAN'T BELIEVE-- ( APPLAUSE )
WE DID-- WE WANTED TO MARKET HERE SOME WAY.
AND BILLY BOYD AND DON MONAHAN CALLED AND SAID WE WANT TO DO
SOMETHING WITH YOU.
WE CAME UP WITH THIS RAP SONG TO CELEBRATE IT.
AND YOU WERE PART OF IT.
WE HAVE A LITTLE CLIP.
>> IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
DID YOU SUCH A GREAT JOB ♪ LORD OF THE RINGS IS THE
NUMBER ONE CHILI ♪ ASK ANYBODY AND THEY KNOW THE
DILLY ♪ ASK ALL THE FISHES THE SEAWEED
>> Stephen: SO THERE YOU ARE, THE FISHES, THE SEAWEED, THE
CRILI, THE OFFICIAL CELEBRATION RIGHT THERE.
WHEN YOU SENT THAT SHOT IN OF YOU LOOKING THROUGH THAT WATER
SURFACE, I THOUGHT THAT'S GREAT.
WHAT EFFECT DID WE PUT ON THAT?
THEY SAID NOTHING.
THAT'S WHAT HE SENT.
SO A DIRECTOR TO THE END, WHAT WERE YOU SHOOT THIS THROUGH, A
FISH TANK?
>> I FOUND A NICE BIG BOWL AT HOME AND FILLED IT UP WITH WATER
AND THOUGHT WE HAVE TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THIS.
IT'S A LITTLE SNATCH.
I GOT MY iPHONE, STUCK IT UNDERNEATH A BOWL OF WATER AND
JIGGLED IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
>> Stephen: ART ON A DIME WITH ANDY SERKIS.
WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
WHEN WE COME BACK, AN DEAL SHOW US HOW HE DID ALL THE CHARACTERS
IN HIS AUDIO BOOK OF "LORD OF THE RINGS."
STICK AROUND.