STEVE: WE HAVE BEEN TELLING
YOU ABOUT THIS STORY FOR
MONTHS.
THE MAN CHARGED WITH
MURDERING HIS ESTRANGED WIFE
IS NOW ON HOUSE ARREST.
FLOTUS DULOS RELEASED ON
$6 MILLION BOND IN THE STATE
OF CONNECTICUT JUST DAYS
AFTER HE WAS CHARGED WITH
HER MURDER.
DULOS' EX-GIRLFRIEND AND HIS
FORMER ATTORNEY HAVE ALSO
BOTH BEEN CHARGED WITH
CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER.
BUT THE BODY OF JENNIFER
DULOS HAS YET TO BE FOUND.
WHERE IS SHE?
AND IF SHE IS DEAD, CAN
PROSECUTORS SECURE A
CONVICTION WITHOUT THE BODY?
JOINING US RIGHT NOW WITH
INSIGHT, FORENSIC
PATHOLOGIST AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR DR. MICHAEL
BADEN.
>> HOW DO YOU DO?
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
STEVE: OKAY.
THEY PRESUMED SHE IS DEAD.
THEY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
EVIDENCE, D.N.A. EVIDENCE OF
HER BLOOD.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
HER BLOOD AND HIS BLOOD BOTH
FOUND IN HER HOUSE AND IN
HER CAR AND ON THE CLOTHING
AND ALL THAT WAS DUMPED IN
VARIOUS GARBAGE CANS.
SO APPARENTLY THE MEDICAL
EXAMINER IN CONNECTICUT HAS
ALREADY SAID THAT THERE WAS
ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT SHE WAS
BLEEDING SUFFICIENTLY TO BE
A CAUSE OF DEATH.
AND THAT HE WAS THE ONLY
PERSON WITH HER WHILE SHE
WAS BLEEDING.
SHE WAS WITH HIM.
NOT THE ONLY PERSON BUT HIS
D.N.A. IS THERE I THINK IN
THIS KIND OF SITUATION THEY
HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE, EVEN
IF THEY DON'T FIND THE BODY
AND EVEN IF THERE ISN'T
BLOOD ON THAT, THEY HAVE AN
AX WITH SOME BLOOD ON IT
THEY ARE TESTING.
WE DON'T NOTE RESULTS OF IT.
EVEN IF THAT BLOOD DOESN'T
TURN OUT TO BE HERS, THEY
HAVE GOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE AS
SHOWN IN THE INDICTMENT.
STEVE: RIGHT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED
IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG
BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD THAT
EVIDENCE FOR A WHILE.
NOW WE HEAR THAT HIS FORMER
ATTORNEY HAS BEEN CHARGED AS
WELL.
APPARENTLY HIS CELL PHONE
PING ADD TOWER ON MAY 31st
NEAR THE WINDSOR ROD AND GUN
CLUB WHERE HUNTERS FOUND A
HOLE DUG INTO THE GROUND.
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
>> THAT'S BIZARRE THAT
APPARENTLY HIS FRIEND, THE
LAWYER, DUG A GRAVE.
AND THEN THEY COVERED IT UP.
BUT WHEN THE POLICE WENT
INTO THAT AREA, THEY FOUND
THAT THERE HAD BEEN A HOLE
DUG BUT THERE WAS NO BODY
THERE.
STEVE: OKAY.
SO WE WILL KEEP PEOPLE
POSTED ON THE DULOS CASE.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE ALSO SAW
YOU ON "60 MINUTES" TALKING
ABOUT THE JEFFREY EPSTEIN
CASE.
NOW, THE NEWS OVERNIGHT IS
APPARENTLY REMEMBER THERE
WAS NO VIDEO APPARENTLY OF
THE CELL THE NIGHT IN
QUESTION, THE FIRST SUICIDE
ATTEMPT AND THEN THEY SAID
OH, WE FOUND IT, NEVER MIND.
AND THEN YESTERDAY WE
DISCOVERED THAT APPARENTLY
THE VIDEO THAT THEY SAY IS
FROM THE WRONG CAMERA.
>> THERE WAS A HOLD PUT ON
THE VIDEO AT THE TIME THAT
THERE WAS THE QUESTIONABLE
SUICIDE ATTEMPT.
THE CELL MATE SAYS HE TRIED
TO COMMIT SUICIDE BUT HE
TOLD LAWYERS, EPSTEIN, THAT
NO, HE WAS ASSAULTED.
STEVE: BY HIS ROOMMATE.
>> PRESUMABLY BY THE CELL
MATE, YES.
AND THEN THE LAWYER, HIS
LAWYER, THE ROOMMATE'S
LAWYER PUT A HOLD ON THE
VIDEOTAPE.
THEY WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE
VIDEO WAS.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
SAVED THAT VIDEO FROM THE
FIRST INCIDENT.
DID ANYBODY ELSE COME INTO
THE ROOM?
AND THEY TOLD THE JUDGE THEY
DIDN'T HAVE IT AND THEN THEY
SAID THEY DID HAVE IT.
AND NOW IT'S LIKE A TERRIBLE
WAY TO RUN A PRISON.
STEVE: NO KIDDING.
BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE THE
PERFECT STORM.
ALL THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW,
THE EMTs COME IN.
THEY SEE THE DEAD BODY.
THEY PICK HIM UP.
THEY DON'T TAKE ANY
PICTURES.
THEY TAKE HIM TO THE
HOSPITAL.
AS IS DEPICTED IN THE "60
MINUTES" ARTICLE.
THE ITEM, WHY DID HE HANG
HIMSELF WITH A SHEET WHEN
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF SLEEP
APNEA MACHINES WITH CORDS
AROUND.
COULD HAVE DONE IT WITH THAT
MUCH QUICKER.
>> ANT THE SHEET, THES
>> ANT THE SHEET, THE NOOSE
FROM THE ORANGE SHEET THAT
HE HAD DOESN'T MATCH THE
LIGATURE MARK ON THE NECK.
STEVE: RIGHT.
YOU SHOWED THAT USUALLY WITH
THIS KIND OF THING THE MARK
IS NOT IN THE CENTERS OF THE
NECK AS IT IS ON THE AUTOPSY
PICTURE BUT, INSTEAD IT'S
MUCH HIGHER.
>> IN A HANGING THE LIGATURE
GOES UP UNDER THE JAWBONE.
THE MANDIBLE.
HERE IT WAS DOWN LOWER.
MORE LIKE A GAROT THE KIND
OF THING THEY DO ON THE
MAFIA CARS.
TIGHT CRUSHING OF THE NECK
THAT CRUSHES THREE DIFFERENT
BONES IN THE NECK, WHICH IS
EXTREMELY UNUSUAL IN
HANGING.
STEVE: A COUPLE MONTHS AGO
YOU WERE ON THIS SHOW AND
YOU TOLD US AND YOU
ELECTRIFIED THE WORLD BY
SAYING WHAT YOU SAW.
AND YOU WERE HIRED BY THE
EPSTEIN FAMILY TO SUPERVISE
AND REVIEW THE AUTOPSY.
>> RIGHT.
STEVE: THAT IT LOOKED LIKE
IT WAS A HOMICIDE.
NOT A SUICIDE.
AND PEOPLE ARE GOING, YEAH.
IF DR. BADEN SAYS THAT
BECAUSE IT'S SO RARE FOR
THIS TO HAPPEN THERE ARE ALL
THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WENT
WRONG THAT NIGHT.
TO SO MANY PEOPLE IT LOOKS
LIKE HE GOT WHACKED IN JAIL.
>> THAT IS CERTAINLY A
POSSIBILITY.
AND THE -- THERE SHOULD BE
SOME TRANSPARENCY.
WHAT DID THE TWO GUARDS SEE
WHEN THEY WENT IN THE CELL
AND FOUND HIM DEAD?
WHAT DID THE EMT PEOPLE SEE?
WHAT DID THEY PUT ON THEIR
RECORD?
THE HOSPITAL THAT HE WAS
BROUGHT TO.
RERELEASED AND ALL OF THAT
WILL HELP DETERMINE WHETHER
HE DIED OF SUICIDE OR
HOMICIDE.
STEVE: WE KNOW WHAT YOU
THINK.
>> I THINK JUST RIGHT NOW
FROM THE MEDICAL STUFF
AUTOPSY POINTING MORE TO
HOMICIDE.
BUT THEY HAVE GOT TO GET ALL
THE INFORMATION BEFORE
MAKING A FINAL DECISION.
STEVE: NO KIDDING.
ALL RIGHT.
DR. BADEN, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, STEVE.