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CONNELL: NOW TO VENEZUELA WHERE
THE BLACKOUT HAS TURNED DEADLY.
THE COUNTRY IS ENTERING IT IS
FIFTH DAY WITH NO POWER.
NICOLAS MADURO BLAMING THE
UNITED STATES SAYING
CYBERATTACKS ARE TO BLAME FOR
THE BLACKOUTS IN HIS COUNTRY.
ASYMMETRIC CAN PRESIDENT,
VANESSA NEUMANN, SHE HAS BEEN
ADVISING JUAN GUAIDO ON SECURITY
MATTERS AND HELPING US OUT
DURING THE CRISIS IS.
WHAT ABOUT PA DURO BLAMING
UNITED STATES?
>> THEY DON’T WANT TO ASSUME
RESPONSIBILITY.
THERE IS ONLY ONE CAUSE FOR THIS
BLACKOUT.
IT IS ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION.
THE GUYS AFFILIATED WITH THE
REGIMES, MONEY LAUNDERING
POSITIONS THEY TOLL $100 BILLION
FROM THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
CORRUPTION IS SO BAD EVEN
INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS
WON’T GIVE THEM MONEY ANYMORE.
CONNELL: YOU’RE PLUGGING INTO
WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE.
>> YES.
CONNELL: IT IS HARD TO FIGURE
OUT HOW BAD THINGS ARE.
HARD TO COMMUNICATE.
>> IT IS VERY HEART TO
COMMUNICATE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN’T GET
THROUGH TO THEIR FAMILIES.
A LOT OF MY FRIENDS COULDN’T GET
THROUGH WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
I HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING THROUGH
WITH FRIENDS.
SOME PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK ON.
YOU HAVE TO WAIT.
THEY ARE USING NINE VOLT
BATTERIES TO CHARGE THE CELL
PHONES.
CONNELL: WHAT A MESS.
WHAT IS THE BREAKING POINT OF
THIS PARTICULAR CRISIS, DO YOU
THINK?
IS.
>> IT IS HORRIBLE.
PEOPLE ARE DYING.
YOU SEE VIDEOS OF PEOPLE SORT OF
TRYING TO KEEP LITTLE BABIES
ALIVE DYING IN NEONATAL CENTERS.
PEOPLE HAD ENOUGH.
YOU CAN’T PUMP WATER OR COOK
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.
THERE IS BREAK DOWN IN CIVIL
ORDER.
IN COUPLE DAYS WE’LL RUN OUT OF
GASOLINE IN THE WORLD’S RICHEST
COUNTRY, RICHEST OIL COUNTRY.
THE MONEY HAS BEEN STOLEN.
THEY CAN’T REFINE IT BECAUSE ALL
CONNELL: THERE WERE 1800 SERVICE
STATIONS AND ABOUT 100 OF THEM,
I READ THIS, I DON’T KNOW WHAT
THE UPDATE, 100 WERE OPERATIONAL
F THAT IS THE CASE --
>> THAT IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
THEN WHAT YOU WILL SEE, YOU WILL
SEE EVEN MORE PEOPLE DYING.
THEY CAN’T GET TO WORK.
IT WILL CEASE.
IT’S A HUMAN TRAGEDY.
THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IS
PHENOMENAL.
AND NOW, THEY WERE ALREADY
PREDICTING TWO MORE MILLION
PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THIS YEAR.
THAT IS BEFORE THE BLACKOUTS.
NOW WITH THE BLACKOUTS AND
GASOLINE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
RUN FOR THE BORDER.
CONNELL: WE’VE ALL BEEN
ASSUMING, WE ASK YOU THIS
QUESTION A LOT WHAT HAPPENS TO
MADURO HERE.
DO PEOPLE JUST TURN AGAINST HIM
OR MORE IMPORTANTLY DOES HIS OWN
MILITARY TURN AGAINST HIM?
WHAT IF WE GO ON A FEW MORE DAYS
WITH THE BLACKOUT AND NEITHER
ONE OF THOSE THINGS HAPPEN THAT
HE IS IS REMOVED TOTALLY?
>> THERE ARE ONGOING TALKS.
JOHN BOLTON WENT ON TWITTER SAID
THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY WHO
SUPPORTS GUAIDO IS HAVING RAPID,
EXTENSIVE TALKS WITH THE
MILITARY.
HE KEEPS CALLING ON THEM.
YOU DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF
THIS CRISIS.
YOU DON’T WANT TO BE PART OF
THIS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF
THE COUNTRY.
WE’RE HOPING IT WILL CHANGE.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO GIVE SOON.
OTHERWISE PEOPLE WILL REALLY
LOSE HOPE.
THE EXODUS WILL CONTINUE.
CONNELL: YOU GREW UP IN
VENEZUELA?
>> I DID.
CONNELL: YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS
ON TELEVISION BEFORE.
IT WAS TREMENDOUSLY WEALTHY
COUNTRY AT THE TIME?
>> YES.
CONNELL: ARE YOU STILL
OPTIMISTIC IT CAN GET BACK THERE
ECONOMICALLY?
>> YES IT CAN.
VENEZUELA HAS LIQUIDITY PROBLEM
BUT IT IS NOT BANKRUPT.
IT HAS PLENTY OF EVERYTHING.
OIL YOU DIG A HOLE IN THE GROUND
TO FIND OIL.
GOLD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
ALL DEBT WILL HAVE TO BE
RESTRUCTURED AND RENEGOTIATED.
THINGS WILL HAVE TO BE
PRIVATIZED.
ONCE YOU STABLIZE FINANCES AND
CURRENCY YOU CAN DO WITH SOLID
ECONOMIC PLAN AND NEW
ADMINISTRATION.
THEN LABOR IS CHEAP.
CONSTRUCTION WILL BE CHEAP.
REWARDS WILL BE GREAT.
WE CAN DO IT.
WE NEED TO GET THERE.
MADURO NEEDS TO FLIP AND CUBANS
NEED TO STOP ADVISING HIM.
CONNELL: THAT IS WHAT IS
HAPPENING NOW.
>> THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CUBA IS