joining me today is John quando lo he's a former FBI agent also co author of the
book Sharia the threat to America
and author the soon to be released book raising a jihadi generation
a handbook for law enforcement military and intelligence professionals you can
find out more
at understanding the threat dot com so John it's really great to have you here
I'm fascinated by your career and your story we actually first came across your
name when we were doing a story
about Glenn back talking about up CIA director John Brennan
is secretly a Muslim and we research that claim
and correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be the kind of original source on
that
idea am I wrong or right about that that is correct and thanks for having me on
so how did you come up with that theory was it during your time
at the FBI or after that you developed a now love I would call a serious side to
the individuals
a and that were over in saudi arabia when he was over there
that are still in government service witnessed am
take the shot a which is a
what you say to become a Muslim while he was the CIA station station chief in
Saudi Arabia
so who are those two individuals I'm not gonna tell tell you that
they're still in government service and they would be fired as
their names Republic okay and let's say
even if you did tell just for a second like you're not going to tell us their
name but let's say you told us their names
what proof with they have that he he is a Muslim
their own testimony that they were there present so they don't there's nothing
other than just that
them saying they were there right no I mean
government records which show they were there in time service at the time he was
there and
they were present so in other words if we were able
with you were able to see the records there would be records that show that
the two individuals whose names you won't tell us
were in the same place as John Brennan
at a particular point in time right right and then what would that tell us
about
him converting to Islam %uh that necessarily wouldn't tell you anything
other than their testimonies which would be that
they witnessed him saying the shop to okay at I might my question would be
wise in anybody just askin
did you take Shahdara that's all we've tell me just
let's talk about well that's an interesting question um would there be
anything
bad let's say you're right okay let's say the sources you won't tell us who
even if we knew their names would have no evidence about this let's say it was
all true
and John Brennan was a Muslim what would be bad about that in other words is it
illegal for people who work in American government to be Muslims
know it but we do have a requirement that you're competent
and I the focal point in the story and and and I'm
I suspect you know when you when you read and research that wasn't simply as
he converted
instead he converted as a sitting station chief for the CIA
in saudi arabia and the people who brought him to that
or employees on the saudi government and the saudi intelligence service
that's a recruit an operation and that shows that he is not competent
or professional to be CIA station she's number one
number to the director Central Intelligence for sure and I would argue
rita is no business having a security clearance
yeah i mean the thing is that you're kind of tying in a lot of conjecture and
personal opinions and then a in other words it's your opinion I mean to hit
let me let me just
just in the interest of presenting another idea and then you can tell me
where i'm wrong.
ok a lot of people would say listen John Brennan was arguably already pretty
sympathetic
to Middle Eastern culture culture to Islam before he even
entered Saudi Arabia that's why he was placed there and with the Bush White
House really given
such a high-ranking position if they thought that he was in some way
compromised the way you're describing it doesn't seem to make too much sense
well I mean the bush administration gave Muslim brothers
senior positions in the government so II don't
I don't know that argument holds water he was already very
sympathetic on not just I think to the Middle East but thats
it starting there but even to the Muslim Brotherhood
in-home loss and others and that's the problem you know one of the articles
one of the most on supportive articles
%uh the report and I did about John Brennan came out in the middle east
and %uh their whole argument was because the fact that job
%uh mister brand was allowed to go to America she had to be a Muslim because
was not muslims are allowed there and they were reported that I didn't report
that
okay just for our purposes I want to focus on your reports because
I only have you here a so-so let's see if we can focus on that a little bit
America is is your sense that
did you think that Glenn Beck and other journalists mostly right when
journalists
are irresponsible when they repeat
a story that you presented with
out giving the names of your sources and without those sources
even having any kind of physical evidence that this even took place
isn't very irresponsible from a journalistic standpoint if someone like
Glenn Beck
to assume that you're right on
the I'm gonna leave that to you guys did to discern whether reporters that
up put this out there be on when I put out
I'll that that's up to you to come up you know where you are what you think if
your fellow journalists I will say this:
there's an easy answer here why doesn't a responsible journalist
ask John Brennan did you take shot da when you were in saudi arabia that's it
just askin and see what he says and if it's flat-out denies it
and then we have a discussion that we can have but if he says yes
then then this interview here becomes moot
because he either has to lie because I know for a fact that two people that are
in government service
are extremely trustworthy and
are have a very stellar careers so you've never had a situation where
someone you believed to be trustworthy turned out not to be trustworthy you've
never heard of that in your life
of course heard so is it possible then that these two individuals
could also fall under that category but you just don't know yet
I think you when you take the preponderance in the box not conjecture
Nazari
the preponderance the fax what is mister Brennan Dunn
since he's been in government service everything he's done especially in the
last
up for for five years has been pro Muslim Brotherhood pro home loss
pro hizbollah in both policy
giving speeches a positive speeches
at known %uh with known significant leaders in the Muslim Brotherhood
here in the United States but what about all of the Christian members of congress
that are also supporting
the Muslim Brotherhood financially and otherwise are should we be
are they all Muslims to is that evidence that they are muslims I mean in both
cases
you personally have no evidence that either converted to Islam so
why aren't you talking about those members of congress you keep saying that
there's no evidence
when you have witnesses ya as an FBI agent we take this stuff to court
US two people testifying to the exact same thing
with the exact same details record you don't have court testimony won't even
tell us their names and all they have is the fact that they say it there's no
evidence at all and we don't even know what you're talking about
all right for the very reason that if I were to give you their names a
their crap would be packed and they be on the government right because of how
hostile this message is
primarily because a man like John Brennan you can't teach
about the Muslim Brotherhood and Sharia law inside the government anymore
primarily because of John Brennan our foreign policy towards Libya
and Syria we supported al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya
yeah and now Iran Syria primarily because of John Brennan
so when you ask what the evidence is the evidence is our government
is directly supporting al Qaeda that's the evidence
okay yeah I mean at that but that our government's our government you know
our government supported any number a brutal regimes and it had nothing to do
with John Brennan mean being a Muslim but
with well with stunts I'm not saying me be clear:
I'm not saying we supported al Qaeda because John Brennan's a Muslim ok
when you when you look at the totality there are
individuals yes I'm not naming them I get that I get your issue with that
but they gave us they have given specific information
that he said the shot down lally was a station she's
in Saudi Arabia that he did it
after a relationship was built with them by
individuals in saudi intelligence it to recruit an operation
he's so naive that he allowed himself to get put in that position
that's my concern alright fair enough no no no I think I think the out we we've
heard and I wish we had more time
you've major case and and I think the audience will decide and of course they
can find out more
at understanding the threat dot calm people can find out about the new book
raising a jihadi
generation we have been speaking with John Blundell I wish we had more time
but I i appreciate you coming on and talking to me about it
thanks David I really appreciate have me too and I do appreciate the discussion
thank you