dick cheney clips on face the nation first
as a way of setting it up because uh... dick cheney's intel's of course
as he's been tell us for a long time the torture works and rocks
unfortunately for him evidences and i will share review after we watch the
first clip
uh... this is going to be but number ten years
what do you say themselves for vice president st dot wouldn't we
employees decided tactics which are after all the tactics that the other
side uses
there when we and our their methods
that were weakening security not in haiti's security because the sort of
makes a mockery of what we we tell the rest of the world's well then you'd have
to say that uh... um...
ineffective
we're prepared to sacrifice american lives rather than run an intelligent
interrogation program that would provide us the information we need
to protect america for you in town is what you're saying here is that we
should do instead
if we could get the information
number memnoch what happened here bob
we had
uh... captured these people we have pursued uh... interrogation more normal
way
we decided that units abuse techniques
so we went to the justice department
and the controversy has arisen over the opinions written by the justice
department reason we went to the justice department plaza because we felt we had
take some kind of free hand
assault on these people are that we weren't being tortured that this would
work
specifically what we got from the off legal counsel were
uh... legal memos that lady that was appropriate and what's not appropriate
to mind of are international commitments
if we have been about fortune we wouldn't have a place tonight i'm going
to the justice department
before because you know that i'm sad unit was
you can take a couple of guys uh... and put that in the justice department
and i said hey guys remember what we agreed to yeah sure just giving you all
the power to a great won't make it happen and that's what i was john you
and archie paid by the and the rest of them
answers very clever to say my guys the justice department told me was okay
by the way used words is this the barman
you guys will watch your ass man he's see which changes that
supplies announcement
with the justice department authorizes if he's put on the studies insects
you invite
indians also miss dilip problem and i try to buy the mostly political
later reasonably that on watch
so it's very clever now but he says we have to do all of this
because this is america lies and it is that the halogen interrogation for
his unfortunate part
the c_i_a_ itself
has got an inspector general report
the israel antonio bombshell on may seventh
the washington post story has found that through leaks what is d_n_a_ and they're
going to conclude
uh... the agency quart appear to violate the u_n_ convention against torture
and it did not
produced
uh... desired results
did not produce
desired
results
uh... they also say it is difficult the report will conclude
to quote determine conclusively whether interrogation is
have provided information critical that inviting specific
imminent attacks
in other words
we didn't stop any attacks from the information we got
as best as we can go
so remember when she was a startled did not understand then
that might have a little tough but we've got great information that's not
attacks
the problem is the c_i_a_ had a respected journal will go over all the
evidence all the information
and what they're calling this the holy grail report
fit that
weapon over all of the evidence
and concluded no
we have no evidence that any taxes stop because of this
so-called intelligent
intelligent interrogation program and by the way yes it did
violate the u_n_ convention against torture
now on top of that apparently some of the interrogators corporate some of
which for some of them are
private contractors
what above and beyond what the memo suggests
and some of them went and beyond what they call sue training procedures that's
you record
survival evasion resistance and escaped
they say how you're supposed to do the waterboarding if you do do waterboarding
which by the way when access to your program told administration
will not use this against detainees
we do this under very controlled environment
is not a good idea we do this so they can avoid of the torture that they might
get from terrible foreign entities
told them not to do this so that only the not listen to the marines here
program they took their stuff use of any way and that would above and beyond
and one of the things that they did with waterboarding was
tilt of the guys as they repeat you know are supposed to do so that their head is
down lower
and then is set up covering their mouth more effectively their mouth and nose
they covered the the whole mouth and nose
important held a lot more water than they were supposed to
now you might think
what's the big deal there are any waterboarding well allah that makes an
enormous
big deal
uh... and uh... you gives you a sense that you are
vivid ron and in fact if you are drowning
uh... if you do it that way until they stop of the last moment
even the physicians
were on board for the rest of georgia's said he shouldn't do it this way
unifil the gas
so
but no none of this is torture
even malaise cracking down on the scene
pieces of the store
or we're going to get that there's a report released on on may seven will
find out of the washington post
initial reports report reporting on it is correct
but i suspected it is otherwise that we would not provide dot on on record as
saying it
proudly india and medical personnel at the defense of cyber
profits the use of the water board in that form
stressing quote
that there was no a priority reason to believe that applying the water board
with the frequency intensity with which it was used
by the psychologist interrogators
was either efficacious
or medically safe
meaning it is not you might kill the guys are medically say and number two it
doesn't work were right here at the cannot tell you anything
that's why i don't know what were the free times
or did i tell you anything new
may because they didn't have anything to do you mean about that
i thought he had to pay a water board
collegiate while the hundred eighty three times because it's locked
working
of course the real problems and or evolu strapless
dating
want information on out yes sure i'm sure some of the interrogators that
are the somalia as the c_i_a_ did
but the reason they kept ordering more and more waterboarding and more intense
waterboarding
from all time
was because the real information they wanted didn't exist
and that is the link between iraq
and outdated
the c_i_a_ usa call that
uh... the
that thing that we can so we must get
and the more they point to the guys in what they did not want to make a and
they couldn't give it the cheney
because then run so that they don't have it
now uh...
trillions
not to stop it said there was a lot of the justice department
there's another guy who'd like to put on the hook
this is
very telling
and possibly quite foolish unchanged for
but that's kind of arrogance is not within the last eight years so i think
it is now
way to get a lot of what he says he replied number eleven
so how much did president bush
know specifically about the methods that were being used we know that you of and
u_s_ said that you approved this hurt uh... somewhere down the line uh... did
president bush so everything you know
uh...
i certainly uh... we have every reason to believe he knew
you a great deal of a permanent he basically are proud to have this is a
presidential level position and the decision went to the president signed
off on
jojoba pop-up book
pleasant
simpson
hamburger
yeah i mean i'm out of
did on board for this and i and i like that all but
in and he said this increases for the vice president's and has no power
it was a president to authorize it if you want to apprehend
have added bars
allies wire confessing on national television
this is not it's not about him he's put the blame on
but she's a little idea burn on this
two guys are blaming the justice department
and bush
he there was that uh... signed off on his own unresolved as the keiko on the
film and
and and and the program and that's the world
but if anyone is really cold war but it isn't it
stay classy retraining