HER MOST ICONIC MOMENTS HAS BEEN WHEN SHE’S GONE UP AGAINST
TRUMP.
TRUMP. HE’S A LOSER PRETTY MUCH EVERY
TIME.
TIME. >> TO THAT POINT, DAVID, LET ME
PLAY YOU THIS SOUND BITE.
THIS IS FROM SORRY NOVEMBER 15th
TALKING ON CBS, NANCY PELOSI
REFERRING TO THE PRESIDENT AS AN
IMPOSTOR.
IMPOSTOR. >> HE SHOULD NOT FRIVOLOUSLY
THROW OUT INSULTS, BUT THAT’S
WHAT HE DOES.
I THINK PART OF IT IS HIS OWN
INSECURITY AS AN IMPOSTOR.
I THINK HE KNOWS FULL WELL THAT
HE’S IN THAT OFFICE WAY OVER HIS
HEAD.
HEAD. >> IT’S INCREDIBLE THAT, YOU
KNOW, SOFT-SPOKEN YET VERY
POINTED AND SHE KIND OF GOES TOE
TO TOE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
>> AND ACCURATE IN HER
DIAGNOSIS, AMON.
DIAGNOSIS, AMON. AND SOMEONE WHO PROBABLY MORE
THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW HAS THE ABILITY TO
RATTLE DONALD TRUMP, TO PUT HIM
ON HIS HEELS, NO ONLY BECAUSE
SHE CONTROLS THE LEVERS OF THE
POWERS OF THE CONGRESS BUT ALSO
SEEMINGLY ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
YOU KNOW WHEN THE PRESIDENT HAD
SUCH A REACTION TO NANCY PELOSI
SUGGESTING THAT SHE PRAYS FOR
HIM, SOMEHOW THAT SUGGESTION
FROM THE SPEAKER REALLY RATTLES
FOR PRESIDENT.
FOR PRESIDENT. AND WHAT HAS BEEN REMARKABLE IS
THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN AN EASY
ROAD FOR NANCY PELOSI.
SHE’S HAD TO WITHSTAND CRITICISM
FROM HER OWN PARTY FOR NOT BEING
AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH.
AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH. COMING OFF THE HEELS OF A COHEN
CONFESSION AND SDNY WHERE TRUMP
WAS NAMED AS A COCONSPIRATOR, OF
THE MUELLER REPORT.
AND SHE SAID OVER THE SUMMER,
LOOK, DONALD TRUMP WILL IMPEACH
HIMSELF.
HIMSELF. AND THEN WE GOT TO UKRAINE AND
SHE MOVED VERY SWIFTLY AND
SATISFIED ALL THE COMPETING
FACTIONS WITHIN HER PARTY.
A REMARKABLE LEADERSHIP YEAR FOR
NANCY PELOSI.
NANCY PELOSI. >> YEAH, WE KIND OF OUTLINED,
HAYES, HOW WE’VE KIND OF EVOLVED
FROM THE BEGINNING.
AS WE SAID SOME DEMOCRATS WERE
CRITICAL OF HER.
EVEN SOMEONE LIKE A TIM RYAN
CHALLENGED HER LEADERSHIP
POSITION.
POSITION. AND SHE PUSHED BACK AGAINST
IMPEACHMENT WHILE SOME OF THE
MORE LEFT WING AND PROGRESSIVE
ASPECTS INCLUDING RASHIDA TLAIB
AND OTHERS WANTED IMPEACHMENT,
SHE PUSHED BACK AGAINST THAT AND
AT THE END OF THE YEAR SHE WAS
PROVEN RIGHT.
PROVEN RIGHT. >> I THINK WHAT A LOT OF HER
MEMBERS WANTED WAS SORT OF
BROADER CONDEMNATION OF TRUMP ON
A PERSONAL LEVEL AND A POLICY
LEVEL IN A WAY PELOSI DIDN’T
QUITE AGREE.
QUITE AGREE. SHE DIDN’T THINK THE POLITICS
WERE THERE TO SAY OH, SHE’S
RACIST THEREFORE SHE MUST BE
IMPEACHED.
IMPEACHED. SHE DIDN’T THINK THE MUELLER
REPORT COULD BE FOLLOWED ALONG
AND SHE DIDN’T THINK THAT THE
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE CHARGE
WOULD BE EASY TO PROVE COMING
OFF THE MUELLER REPORT, BUT HERE
SHE SAW SOMETHING WHERE SHE
COULD JUMP ONBOARD, AND SHE KNEW
WHEN SEVERAL MODERATE DEMOCRATS,
FRESHMEN, SIGNED ONTO A "THE
WASHINGTON POST" OP-ED SAYING,
NO, WE NEED AN ILPEACHMENT
INQUIRY THIS WAS THE MOMENT TO
STRIKE.
STRIKE. BECAUSE PELOSI UNLIKE TRUMP,
TRUMP VIEWS POWER JUST AS A
HAMMER WHEREAS PELOSI CAN USE A
HAMMER AND A SCALPEL, WHILE ALSO
VERY NARROWLY AND DELICATELY
POKING AT THINGS AND SLICING
AWAY SUPPORT FOR POSITIONS THAT
GO AGAINST HER.
>> I’M JUST THINKING OFF THE TOP
OF MY HEAD THREE OR FOUR ICONIC
IMAGES MOST NOTABLY AT THE END
OF THE SESSION WHERE SHE
GESTURES FOR HER CAUCUS NOT TO
CLAP.
CLAP. LET ME ASK YOU THIS, THOUGH,
DOES SHE RUN THE RISK -- SHE
DOES CONTROL THE PACING OF THIS
IMPEACHMENT PROCESS INSOFAR AS
SHE DECIDES WHEN TO HAND OVER OR
TRANSMIT THOSE DOCUMENTS TO THE
SENATE.
SENATE. TO KICK THINGS OFFFICIALLY DOES
SHE RUN THE RISK OF OVER PLAYING
HER HAND AND HOLDING ONTO THEM
TOO LONG?
TOO LONG? >> HE DIDN’T GET FAST ENOUGH,
THE VOTE WAS TOO VAST, AND NOW
SHE’S HOLDING ONTO THINGS TOO
LONG.
LONG. HONESTLY I THINK SO FAR SHE’S
DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB MAKING
SURE THIS IS AN ISSUE BEING
HANDLED AS FAIRLY AS POSSIBLE.
NO ONE COULD EVER ACCUSE HER OF
RUSHING TO IMPEACHMENT, AND SO
I’M INCLINED TO TRUST HER
THROUGH THIS -- YOU KNOW, THIS
FAIR TRIAL, MAKING SURE THAT THE
SENATE ACTUALLY CALLS WITNESSES,
WHICH IS WHAT THE AMERICAN