PASS IT ALONG BECAUSE IT IS OUT
THERE.
HE IS GOING TO JAIL.
>>> WE'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THIS
CANADIAN DIPLOMAT DETENTION
ADDING TO TENSIONS.
YOU MIGHT RECALL THERE WAS A BIG
FUSS HERE OVER EXACTLY HOW THE
CANADIANS ARE GOING TO RESPOND,
FIRST OFF TO THE DETENTION OF
ONE OF THEIR TOP OFFICIALS TAKEN
IN BY THE CHINESE.
SOME SAW THAT AS A TIT-FOR-TAT
OVER HANDLING OF MENG WANZHOU,
RELEASED YESTERDAY.
THERE IS CONCERN IN CANADA, OVER
THE TOP OFFICIAL IN CHINA WHO
RESIDES IN CANADA, STILL BEING
HELD BY AUTHORITIES THERE.
THIS IS NOT A DONE DEAL.
GET THE READ FROM FORMER BUSH 43
DEPUTY ASSISTANT FOR DEFENSE,
PETER BROOKES.
PETER ALL THIS OCCURS
CONCURRENTLY WITH WHAT
CONCESSIONS THE CHINESE MADE ON
A NUMBER ABOUT FRONTS ON THE
TRADE AREA.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ALL
THIS?
>> THERE IS DEFINITELY SIGNALING
GOING ON, RIGHT?
THERE IS MESSAGING TO THE
CANADIAN GOVERNMENT, TO THE
AMERICANS.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT GOOD COP,
BAD COP, WHAT THINGS THEY CAN
SHAKE LOOSE IN TERMS OF TRADE
ISSUES AND INDICTMENT OF HUAWEI
CFO IN UNITED STATES AND DAN
TODAY.
THE CHINESE ARE TRYING TO MOVE
IT IN THEIR DIRECTION IF
POSSIBLE.
NEIL: SO I'M WONDERING THIS
CANADIAN OFFICIAL STILL BEING
HELD YOU WOULD THINK THERE WOULD
BE SORT OF A MUTUAL DISARMAMENT
HERE.
THE CANADIANS ALLOW THE CFO TO
POST BAIL.
THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT SHE
CAN OR CANNOT LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
BUT LET'S SAY SHE CAN.
THERE IS NO WAY SHE WILL BE
LOOKING AT ANY POTENTIAL PRISON
TIME OR PUNISHMENT, BUT THE
CANADIAN GUY IN CHINA STAYS.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE
REPORTING, NEIL, SHE CANNOT
LEAVE CANADA.
THAT SHE HAS AN ANKLE BRACELET.
NEIL: OKAY.
>> AND THEY HAVE TAKEN HER
PASSPORT.
SO SHE CANNOT LEAVE CANADA UNTIL
HER NEXT COURT DATE WHICH IS I
BELIEVE IN THE BEGINNING OF
FEBRUARY.
IN TERMS OF A FORMER DIPLOMAT,
CANADIAN DIPLOMAT, THE REPORTING
I'M SEEING NOW, MAY NOT BE MOST
UP TO DATE, CANADIAN CONSULAR
OFFICIALS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO
ACCESS HIM YET.
HE IS STILL IN DETENTION BY THE
CHINESE SECURITY SERVICES.
SO THAT MAY CHANGE IN THE COMING
FUTURE BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK BACK
HISTORICALLY WE'VE SEEN THE
CHINESE TAKE CITIZENS, USE THEM
AS LEVERAGE TO ADVANCE THEIR,
ADVANCE THEIR INTERESTS.
THERE IS EVEN TALK THAT THE U.S.
STATE DEPARTMENT MAY ISSUE A
WARNING, MAY ISSUE A WARNING,
REGARDING TRILLION TO CHINA FOR
AMERICAN CITIZENS PERHAPS
BECAUSE OF THESE TENSIONS.
NEIL: YOU KNOW, IT IS
INTERESTING ABOUT HOW THE
CHINESE AND I KNOW YOU HAVE TO
WORK IN SEPARATE FIELDS AND
COMPARTMENTALIZE THIS, BUT THE
CHINESE ARE MAKING GOOD ON A LOT
OF PROMISES THEY HAVE TO MAKE
LONG-TERM GOOD, LIKE
RONALD REAGAN LINE, TRUST BY
VERIFY.
DO YOU THINK THEY CAN AND WILL?
>> THIS IS VERY TOUGH ON THE
ISSUES.
THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS CONCERNS
ABOUT MARKETS, MARKET ACCESS,
WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION,
VIOLATIONS, SUPPORT OF
STATE-OWNED ENTERPRISE.
40% OF THE CHINESE ECONOMY IS
STATE-OWNED ENTERPRISES.
THEY GET SUBSIDIES FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, CYBER.
YOU KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO.
YOU'RE A BUSINESS GUY.
YOU KNOW THIS BETTER THAN I DO.
SOMEBODY LOOKED AT CHINA FOR A
LONG TIME, THERE IS A LOT OF
WORK TO DO HERE TO GET CHINA
PLAYING BY RULES THAT REST OF US
PLAY BY.
NEIL: TIMING IS EVERYTHING.
DON'T YOU FIND IT ODD, EVERY
TIME POTENTIAL FOREIGN POLICY OR
ECONOMIC TRIUMPH FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION.
GOSH DARN IT, OCCURS ON THE
EXACT SAME DAY AND MOMENT WE
GETTANCE ISING, IN THIS CASE,
MICHAEL COHEN OR SOME NEW NEWS
DRIPS OUT ON THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION.
IT IS UNCANNY.
>> WELL I, THAT IS KIND OF OUT
OF MY LANE HERE.
NEIL: I HEAR YOU.
I'M MUSING ALOUD I GUESS.
SOMETIMES YOU KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS