LIKE THE FIRST SCANDAL IN THE
AGENCY’S HISTORY.
YOU ARE WATCHING "OUTNUMBERED,"
I’M HARRIS FAULKNER.
MY COHOST TR, EMILY COMPAGNO AND
KAYLEIGH McENANY, ARE READY TO
CARRY YOU THROUGH FRIDAY.
HERE ALSO TOMI LAHREN AND
STEVE HILTON.
GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS.
PROSECUTORS SAY THE SUSPECTS
POSED AS HOMELAND SECURITY
AGENTS AND GAVE EXPENSIVE GIFTS
THE SECRET SERVICE AGENTS,
INCLUDING TELEVISIONS,
CELL PHONES, WEAPONS, RENT FREE
APARTMENTS WORTH $25,000 A YEAR
EACH, FOR SECRET SERVICE
OFFICERS HAVE BEEN PUT ON
ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE IN
CONNECTION WITH THIS CASE.
FOX NEWS CAN NOW CONFIRM ONE OF
THE AGENTS WAS PROTECTING THE
FIRST LADY AT THE TIME.
THE OTHER WAS ASSIGNED TO THE
VICINITY OF THE VICE PRESIDENT’S
RESIDENCE, ALTHOUGH NOT ON HER
PERSONAL DETAIL.
WE HAVE NEW PICTURES OF WHAT THE
FBI HAS FOUND AFTER RAIDING ONE
OF THE SUSPECTS APARTMENTS THIS
WEEK.
THEY SHOW TACTICAL GEAR,
AMMUNITION, AND FIREARMS.
BOTH MEN ARE U.S. CITIZENS,
ALTHOUGH ONE CLAIMS TO HAVE TIES
TO PAKISTAN INTELLIGENCE
SERVICE.
THE SUSPECTS ARE SET TO APPEAR
IN COURT LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
STEVE HELTON, WHAT COMES TO MIND
WHEN YOU SEE THE DETAILS OF THE
STORY?
SPEAK OF THE DETAILS ARE REALLY
PRETTY SHOCKING, HARRIS.
ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU SAID THE WORST
SCANDAL IN SECRET SERVICE
HISTORY I THOUGHT YOU SAID THE
WORST SCANDAL SINCE THE LAST
SCANDAL.
THIS IS THE SCANDAL PLAGUED
AGENCY.
I’LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND
PAIR THE SPECIFIC DETAILS OF
THIS CASE ARE REALLY SCARY.
WITHOUT THAT CONNECTION THERE
POTENTIALLY TO PAKISTANI
INTELLIGENCE TO THE ISI COMMIT
TELLS YOU THAT THIS IS NOT JUST
A BUNCH OF RANDOM PEOPLE WHO
THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A FUN
IDEA.
THIS IS INFILTRATION BY A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.
ACTUALLY A HOSTILE PART OF A
FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.
OFTEN WE THINK OF PAKISTAN AS AN
ALLY.
THE ISI WAS THE REAL ENEMY OF
AMERICA THROUGH THE YEARS IN
AFGHANISTAN, FUNDING AND
SUPPORTING THE TALIBAN AND SO
ON, DESPITE WHAT WE HEARD FROM
THE PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT.
THAT IS A REAL CAUSE FOR
CONCERN.
SECONDLY, IN TERMS OF THE
SPECIFICS OF THIS CASE YOU HAVE
TO WONDER WHEN YOU READ OUT THAT
LIST OF SPECIFICS, THAT THE
AGENTS WERE OFFERED, INCLUDING
THE RENT FREE APARTMENTS, YOU
HAVE TO WONDER WHY THEY WERE NOT
SUSPICIOUS.
THAT RINGS REAL ALARM BELLS,
FRANKLY, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE
PEOPLE IN THESE INCREDIBLY
SENSITIVE POSITIONS.
ACTUALLY THE REAL POINT I THINK
WE ALL NEED TO FOCUS ON IS THE
STRUCTURAL POINT ABOUT WHAT IS
GOING ON WITH THIS AGENCY.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT WHAT
HAPPENED IN THOSE CANDLES
PARTICULARLY DURING THE OBAMA
YEARS.
WE REMEMBER THE STORIES, ONE
AFTER THE OTHER.
INTRUSIONS INTO THE WHITE HOUSE,
IN COLUMBIA, ON AND ON IT WENT.
THEN THERE WAS A REPORT DONE TO
MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND EXPERT
PANEL -- I HAVE THE DETAILS
HERE.
AN EXPERT PANDA RECOMMENDED THAT
IN 2014 A BUNCH OF
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE
SECRET SERVICE -- THEY POINTED
TO A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE IN
TRAINING.
THEY HAD 19 RECOMMENDATIONS NOW
IF YOU LOOK RECENTLY THE
GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE
LOOKED AT WHAT THE
SECRET SERVICE HAD DONE.
THEY SAID THAT NOW THE TRAINING
MIGHT GET UP TO 12% OF THE TIME
BY 2025 AND 13 OF THE 19
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN MET.
WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN DOING?
THERE ARE NOT EVEN HALFWAY TO
IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS
MADE AFTER THE LAST SCANDAL.
>> AND THIS IS NOT TO IMPUGN THE
ENTIRE AGENCY.
BUT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
REALLY HAD THE ENTIRE AGENCY.
IF THEY DID 13 OF THE 19
RECOMMENDATIONS, WHERE THOSE
EVEN THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATIONS?
MAYBE THEY WERE LEARNING THE
WRONG STUFF, TOMMY?
>> YEAH, ONE HAS TO WONDER WHY
DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
WHERE IS THE OVERSIGHT?
THIS IS NOT A SMALL ISSUE.
WERE TALKING ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT,
THE FIRST LADY.
THEY SHOULD NOT FALL THROUGH THE
CRACKS.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE
SO MUCH DISTRUST AND FEDERAL
INSTITUTIONS.
THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS
ABOUT FOREIGN AGENCIES, FOREIGN
TIES THERE BE THE BIDEN FAMILY
OR AARON SO WELL IN HIS
POTENTIAL CHINESE GIRLFRIEND --
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH SO
MANY LINKS TO SO MANY THINGS
THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNING -- I
THINK IT IS TIME TO BATTEN DOWN
THE HATCHES AND GET SOME
OVERSIGHT BECAUSE THIS IS
NOTHING TO PLAY WITH.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE
ANSWERS ON THIS ON A WHOLE CADRE
OF OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE
THREATENING OUR NATIONAL
SECURITY.
I DON’T THINK WE ARE GOING TO
GET IT.
I’D SEEMS TO BE SWEPT UNDER THE
RUG AND NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE
ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION.
WE ARE SO INVESTIGATION RATED
AND THEN IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEVER
GET A CONCLUSION THAT THIS
ACCESS FACTORY.
>> SOMETIMES YOU GET CONFUSED
WHEN YOU SAY A WORD OVER AND
OVER AND YOU’RE LIKE WAIT, WHAT
DOES THAT WORD MEAN AGAIN?
’S FOR ME THAT IS INVESTIGATION.
TOMI?
>> YOU MADE A GREAT POINT.
IF THERE IS A DEARTH OF
LEADERSHIP, AND ABSENCE OF
TRAINING, IF THERE ARE OUTLIER
AGENTS THEN WE WILL RESERVE THAT
IDENTIFICATION FOR EACH PAIR
LARGELY BY AND LARGE THE
SECRET SERVICE IS FILLED WITH AN
INCREDIBLE CADRE OF MEN AND
WOMEN.
ABSOLUTELY COME EVERY SINGLE
DAY.
I SPOKE WITH A LONG TIME SECRET
AGENT -- HE HAD PRESIDENTIAL
DETAIL COVERING FOR
ADMINISTRATIONS.
HE’S NEVER TARRIED ANY OF SUCH
GREAT INSIGHT INTO THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
OR TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE STUFF,
FREE RENT AND THE LIKE.
THESE GUYS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
DHS EMPLOYEES.
THAT’S THE SAME PAY STRUCTURE.
DIDN’T THAT RAISE RED FLAGS?
HOW ARE THESE GUYS IN POSSESSION
OF ALL OF THIS CASH OF AMAZING
AND EXPENSIVE STUFF?
SECONDLY WE KNOW THAT
CONCENTRATION WISE
WASHINGTON, D.C., AND MOSCOW
HAVE THE MOST HEAVILY POPULATED
AMOUNT OF SPIES AND THE ENTIRE
WORLD, WHY WOULD YOU EVEN BE
TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE WHEN
THEY ARE GIVING YOU AN IMPROPER
BENEFIT?
NO MATTER WHAT DEARTH OF
TRAINING THERE MIGHT BE,
TRAINING COVERS THAT.
I’M THE BEST CASE THEY WERE
BEING SET UP FOR EXTORTION.
AT WORST THEY WERE BEING WORKED
AS AN ASSET FOR A FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT.
THAT FINAL POINT BLEW ME AWAY.
BY THE WAY, IF THEY HAD JUST
DONE A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON
THEIR OWN COME WITH 3 MINUTES OF
AIRTIME INTO THESE GUYS, THEY
COULD’VE SAVED THE DOJ FROM
UNDERGOING AN INCREDIBLE
INVESTIGATION WILL LIKELY LAST A
LONG TIME.
>> WHY WERE THEY NOT MORE
CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON?
FOR ME IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING
INVESTIGATIONS THERE’S THAT WORD
AGAIN -- I WOULD WANT TO KNOW
THAT.
PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE
VULNERABILITY CREATES.
YOU CAN BRIBE, YOU CAN DO A
WHOLE LOT OF GAMES OF SOMEBODY
HAS TAKEN THE KIND OF CASH.
BUT ALSO IF THEY ARE NOT THE
CURIOUS ABOUT THEIR OWN
WELL-BEING HOW IT IS GOING TO
PROTECT SOMEBODY?
>> WE’VE NOT HEARD THEIR SIDE OF
THE STORY AT SOME I THINK THAT
IS WORTH SAYING PAIR THEY
SHOULD’VE ASKED THIS QUESTION.
WHEN WORKING IN GOVERNMENT THERE
ARE CERTAIN GIFT REGULATIONS.
I GOT A BASS GNOMIC BOX OF MASK
AT THE HEAD OF THE PANDEMIC THAT
IS ONLY ABLE TO ACCEPT IT
BECAUSE THEY HAD TO BE UNDER
VERY SMALL DOLLAR THRESHOLD.
THE NOTION THAT YOU’RE RECEIVING
$40,000 FROM AN APARTMENT AND
FLATSCREEN TVs AND iPHONES
COMMISSION OSCAR SUPERIOR EVEN
THOUGH THIS INDIVIDUAL SAID IT
IS MONEY CAUGHT UP IN AN
OPERATION, THEY WERE MISLED.
HOWEVER YOU SHOULD RAISE THAT
THEY ARE SUPERIOR.
I DO WANT TO SAY TO EMILY’S
POINT I THINK IT’S VERY
IMPORTANT TO SEPARATE THE RANK
AND FILE FROM MAYBE AT SOME OF
THE MACRO PROBLEMS THE
SECRET SERVICE -- JUST LIKE WE
DID THE FBI AGENTS FROM SOME OF
THE MACRO PROBLEMS WITH RUSSIA
AT THE HEAD OF THE FBI, THESE
SECRET SERVICE INDIVIDUALS I WAS
AROUND THEM WHEN I WAS AN INTERN
FOR THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, I
WAS AROUND THEM EVERYDAY AS
PRESS SECRETARY FOR TRUMP.
AMAZING PEOPLE.
SMART PEOPLE THAT.
THEY PROTECT THE PRESIDENT IN
THE HEART OF SITUATIONS.
I CANNOT EVEN BRING MY HUSBAND
TO JERSEY WITHOUT DOG SNIFFING.
RIGOROUS QUESTIONING FROM
SECRET SERVICE BEAR THEY DO A
PHENOMENAL JOB.
I CAN’T SPEAK FOR THE LACK OF
JUDGMENT IN THE SITUATION -- I
I -- I WANT TO HEAR THEIR SIDE
OF THE STORY.
BUT I WILL SAY THESE ARE SOME OF
THE BEST OF THE BOSTON
SECRET SERVICE.
I WAS HONORED TO STAND BY THEM
EVERYDAY.
>> UNFORTUNATELY WHAT WE ARE
LEFT TO FOCUS ON US TO WAIT FOR
THOSE DETAILS TO COME FORTH AND
LOOK AT FOR PEOPLE LEFT HIM
ADMINISTRATION LEAVE AND WONDER
WHAT IS THE BACK FILL THEM YOU
ARE -- STEVE YOU GAVE SUCH GREAT
POINTS WITH THAT AFTER ALL THE
SCANDALS WE SAW WITHIN THE LAST
DECADE, WHAT TYPES OF THINGS
WERE THERE TO RETROFIT A BETTER
FUTURE ON THIS AGENCY? I DON’T KNOW AGAIN IF THOSE WERE
I DON’T KNOW AGAIN IF THOSE WERE
THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO.
>> THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT.
IT DOES SPEAK TO A WIDER LACK OF
TRUST IN OUR FEDERAL AGENCIES.
YOU SEE THE BUREAUCRACY HAS
GROWN SO MUCH -- IT’S SO BIG.
THE BIGGER IT GETS THE MORE
MONEY IT GETS FROM US TAXPAYERS,
IT SEEMS TO BE WORSE AND WORSE
IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE.
BLOSSOM AFFECTED BY THIS CULTURE
OF POLITICAL IDEOLOGY INSTEAD OF
JUST GETTING ON AND DOING THE
JOB IN PRACTICAL WAYS.